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Geek Culture / BIOS problem

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IanG
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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 03:43
Hi everyone,

I have got a pretty big problem and I was wondering if any of you know how to fix it. The problem is that I was flashing the bios of a computer and it failed, tried several times and it failed everytime, so rebooted it and nothing happened, the monitor comes up with a "no signal" message. It is obvious that the flashing has left the eeprom blank, or not in a useable state, so is there anything I can do besides buy a new motherboard?

Thanks,
Ian

Used to be Phoenix_insane registered in september 2003 despite what the date says to the left <--
PC - amd athlon 2.0ghz, 1280mb, GeForce FX 5200 128mb, 200gb, xp pro sp2
Undercover Steve
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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 04:03
PC - amd athlon 2.0ghz, 1280mb, GeForce FX 5200 128mb, 200gb, xp pro sp2

How long have you had that pc? Usually if an amd fails, it is only because you leave it on for weeks/months. I have never had it happen to me (if I let my pc die (amd 64) I would probably kill myself). But really nothing. Because if it wont boot, you cant do anything really.
IanG
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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 04:30
thats not the pc the problem has occured on, it occured on an amd athlon 3200+, 1024mb of ram, GeForce FX5200, 120GB hd and xp pro sp2

its only on for probable less than 5 or 6 hours a day, and the problem was caused by flashing the bios - it was fine before, then during the flashing it errored

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Undercover Steve
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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 04:35
hmm....never heard that happen before.
DBAlex
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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 05:01
Well obviously the bios has been wiped, Or your PSU is bust...


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IanG
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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 05:17
the PSU is fine, so it must be the bios, so how would you go about making it work again?

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Oraculaca
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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 05:35
have you tried moving the reset jumper over on your mobo then putting it back and rebooting

IanG
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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 05:42
yeah i've tried clearing the cmos - but it doesn't do anything, the cmos holds settings not the actual bios.

Why can't motherboards be like cisco routers where you can reset them to their factory settings, no matter what you do to them?

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DBAlex
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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 07:17
Id take it to a PC shop and see if you can get it reflashed with your previous bios...

Or ring the motherboard manafacturer...


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IanG
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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 07:22
i might try taking it to somewhere like pc world, might as well confuse them

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the_winch
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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 07:44
Pc world probably won't help unless you want to buy a new motherboard.

Try http://www.wimsbios.com/HTML1/faq.html#q9
Dazzag
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Posted: 21st Jul 2005 07:55
Did your PC come with a floopy containing the original BIOS? I seem to remember my old PCs (new one doesn't have a floppy) having such a thing.

Failing that, claim it on the insurance. Claim it fell over and doesn't work since. I've never claimed anything myself (mug), but a mate of mine reckons they normally just pay up no worries (he was robbed once and claimed he had a game in his PS. Turned out he forgot he didn't have the game, and had played it on his friends PS. Insurance company just got a new version. Tops). Worth a try.

Cheers

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IanG
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2005 00:59
@th_winch: thanks for that site it was useful, shame i can't use the recovery method suggested in it - it doesn't read from the floppy dirve at all

@Dazzag: it didn't come with a floppy, i got it about 3 years ago. I would claim on the insurrance but its not really worth it, it wasnt an expensive motherboard

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Dazzag
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Posted: 22nd Jul 2005 02:26
Quote: "it doesn't read from the floppy dirve at all"
You mean when it boots? Thats normally a CMOS setting (default is true normally), so resetting with the jumper should put it back to reading the floppy for boot. Failing that, get it onto a CD and make it boot from that.

Although in these cases it's always tempting to ditch it and buy the latest thing

Cheers

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IanG
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Posted: 23rd Jul 2005 02:03
you don't get what i've wrote, when you switch on it doesn't reach post, never mind going to the boot procedure

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