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Geek Culture / How do i format a pc ?

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Keemo1000
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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 02:25
Lame question but i need to format my pc for some milkshape problems .

What do i do ?

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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 03:30
Format as in wipe out the harddrive and reinstall Windows?
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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 03:45
Bit of an overkill isn't - formatting a hard drive just because Milkshape doesn't work properly ?

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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 04:11
its expired , and i cant do nothin , and i better start saving my work , but i cant register , cos its expired , so i have to redownload it , i do that , but still expired . Ive tried everything , just tell me how to format my pc (i need something more powerful than system restore) And yes , i mean to erase windowZ

if you think there is a better way , pls tell me , cos i know i wont be allowed to format my pc .

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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 04:26
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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 04:27 Edited at: 25th Jul 2005 05:21
*edit*

1. Merranvo says what I suggested won't work.
2. Didn't realise you were trying to dodge fee.


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Merranvo
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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 05:03 Edited at: 25th Jul 2005 05:04
Don't listen to Blade... that won't help you because windows uses NTFS and format use FAT... + NTFS is dos protected.

Didn't your computer come with a restore disk?

MOD: Doesn't this fall under "cracking software" catagory?

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ionstream
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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 05:06
Yeah, somebody lock this, it sounds like he's trying to get around the 30 day trial.

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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 05:10
hence me suggesting BUYING IT!! If its good enough for you to want to use for more than 30 days, then surely its worth you forking out a whole $25 on it (or €25).. Come on thats only ~£13!!!

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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 05:31 Edited at: 25th Jul 2005 05:43
Only format when you've tried every possible solution... especially when many things can go wrong in the process. For somebody who doesn't know what to do you'll be hurting if something goes wrong and you can't get online to find out what to do (if that is your only computer).

Is it registered? If you "bought" it i'm sure they can tell you where to look to wipe out the registry information that's preventing you from running it. I seriously doubt they'd force people to "register" and not helping anybody with installation problems.

Formating is easy... the hassle is getting everything back.

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Make a list of all driver information. If you have a driver disc that came with the computer (and never bought any new stuff for it) np... if you have a frankenstein computer (as in custom made) you'll need to write down all the drivers.

Settings, Control Panel, System, Hardware Tab, Device Manager, hit all the +'s and write down your hardware) What I do is take a picture with a digital camera... fast easy and no writers cramp. You can skip the system devices (99% of the time their all automatic). Just write down the basics (video, sound, modem, network cards, and any device that you're not sure about).

Once you have all the drivers written down use the internet to find all these drivers and download them... if you have more than one computer you can do this after formating but it's risky if you can't find the right driver.

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Make backups of all stuff you want to keep (to CD or another computer). Your Darkbasic code is number one. The documents directory is number two. Music you've pirated from the internet is number three. Backup everything you'll pull your hair out if you don't have (including saves for games). This process will probably take many, many hours.

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Insert the Windows XP or Win98 CD in your drive and boot the computer. If it doesn't boot to the CD first you need to change the setting in BIOS. When your computer boots up there's usually information telling you how to get into BIOS to change the settings. It could be DEL, F1, F11, F12... it just depends on your computer. Once you're in the BIOS screen look for "boot order" and change it to boot off the CD drive first.

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Once the XP install is on you'll want to read the instructions but it's basically: Hit enter to install windows XP, then F8 to agree to the terms of service, then delete the current partition with D, next create a new parition with C, press enter to use the new partition, select format with ntfs file system (quick) and press enter. It'll format and start installing Windows XP. After a long time (30 to 45 mins) and after a few reboots... it'll ask for the product key. If you don't have one... you're screwed. If you have a computer that's a non-frankenstein and you used the XP disc that came with your computer there should be a tag on your computer somewhere that has the product key. Then you get to answer dumb questions like what you want to call your computer, the date, network settings (pick typical).

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Once Windows XP is finished with installing then the fun begins... you can start by copying all your backup stuff to the computer or installing the drivers (I do the drivers first... so if it totally messes up and I have to reformat again the time it takes to install all the backup stuff isn't wasted). Once you get all the drivers installed next is activation. If you don't "activate" Windows XP it'll only work for 30 days. If you haven't activated Windows XP too many times you'll go right through without any problems. If you've activated too many times you'll have to call a phone number to activate. You'll be saying numbers/letters for a while to a computer and hearing "du duuuhhh" tones... once that's done you'll be taken to a real person and asked "Is this the only computer you have XP on?" in an Arab voice. Tell him/her that you had to reformat your computer and he/she will give you the number to type in.

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Next you want to get online and update Windows XP to the max. If you don't update you'll be reformating in a few days from all the attacks. It'll take many hours on a dialup. Do every update especially the latest DirectX drivers.

As you can see it's a long process and may not be worth doing if you can simply get help from the people who make Milkshake. At any point in this process something horrible can go wrong... so be prepared to regret doing this.

Still want to reformat?

Edit: Ack 6 posts while I wrote all that. Yes, it's a work around but it's a whole lot of trouble and if anything goes wrong he deserves what he gets. I'm sure the makers of Milkshake won't mind "justice" like that.
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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 05:35
Actually you are overcomplicating it...

I can get my entire computer up and running in under 3 hours. With EVERYTHING installed, everything backed up and everything back where it was (excluding spyware). And ALSO, you don't need to take the hassle with the 30 thing if your computer comes with a xp install cd. Most put the key directly in and pre-register with microsoft.

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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 05:51 Edited at: 25th Jul 2005 05:53
I fix a lot of frankenstein where the people tell me "I don't have a driver CD."... which is why the complicated process. Besides he doesn't know how to do it at all. Being detailed about the whole process is vital to his success... and a good way to show him he might not want to even try this just for one program.

And for some computers just making a backup of all their music will take 3 hours.
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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 06:13 Edited at: 25th Jul 2005 06:13
Contius backup... simply put,

Put your music on your Ipod and LEAVE it there


Also default settings should run MOST hardware, and Windows Update will give you driver updates and stuff.

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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 06:32
Unfortunately I can't tell people to make constant backups because most of the time I don't even know them before I get a call to reformat their computer.

If their using a dialup and they don't get the drivers before formating they'll be stuck without internet access to do that.

If the hardware is ancient and not made by any of the big companies windows won't know what it is at all.

Not everybody has an IPod.

When dealing with unknown computers... never expect anything to work right away.
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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 06:35
Modem Drivers aren't that hard...
Microsoft can run it...

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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 06:39 Edited at: 25th Jul 2005 06:42
http://www.tweakguides.com/
This site has good instructions for reloading and optimizing Windows XP.

http://www.amabilis.com
That's a decent 3D modeler with no time limit. So it's good for learning, but you won't be able to export to a format usable by DB without registering. The 35$ plus version is good for 3D models and the free version is good for learning.

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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 06:54 Edited at: 25th Jul 2005 06:54
Merranvo, not all of them. :-(

I've fixed computers for the last 14 years... something almost always goes wrong when dealing with ancient unknown computers.

It seems you want to have the last word so i'll let you have it after this message.
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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 07:06
Microsoft is an Evil Corporation.

P.S. DON'T STEAL SOFTWARE.

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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 09:25 Edited at: 25th Jul 2005 09:28
Quote: "if you think there is a better way , pls tell me , cos i know i wont be allowed to format my pc "


Yeah use another modeler.

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=25468&b=3

Gamespace lite
wings 3d
truespace 3.2

Are all free so why would you need to swipe free time from milkshape, you could uninstall the program and hack your registry to steal it but again why? It's cheap and if your not willing to pay or can't buy it for some reason be it age or lack of funds, then just use another modeler thats free damn.

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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 15:29
The only modeller i would be using should be almost like a twin to milkshape, and not gmax , cos that doesnt work , dont ask why . I registered , and got my pass and id , when i type them , (thx 4 registering) comes out ,then (reastart ms for the registeration 2 b complete ) after i restart , (this version seems expired , run the darn thing for 2 more min to complete registeration0 i run it for another 30 min , and restart , and the same thing goes all over again , i need to restart the 30day limit , so that i register before its expired, my friends tried it and it worked ,but mine is expired so its dead , tell me if i should delete adminstrator accounts or something like that in Windows XP or of other modellers that are 90% similar to milkshape !

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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 16:02
Quote: "Yeah, somebody lock this, it sounds like he's trying to get around the 30 day trial."


No one's told him how to crack the software, reformatting Windows is a no-brainer and if he wants to do that every 30 days, then I hope he has fun doing it. In the meantime, this thread will remain open until someone actually breaks the AUP.


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Posted: 25th Jul 2005 19:15
@keemo - have you tried uninstalling (fully, including deleting the folder it installs to) and then reinstalling it, THEN registering?

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