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Deep Thought 42
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Has anyone ever heard of Stargate? No one I knows likes the show or has seen it.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 01:06
That's very sad...

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 01:14
Has anyone ever heard of Margate? Entertainment capital of the world.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 01:39
I blame SciFi for that, they are now concentraiting on making superenemys that need a superweapon to destroy them. Now how many superweapons were made and discovered in those last 4 seasons? Alot. Not to mention the fact that they can't stay stable on how things work. The show has turned into a special effects fiasco, there is less practical story, and more "Wow we are extreamly lucky" events that lead to a big specail effect finale.

Take a look at some of the old episodes, times have really changed.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 02:54
Though I didn't think I would at first (with Richard Dean Anderson being gone), I actually like the current season of Stargate SG-1.

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I guess you're right. Its a wonder the "Ancients" didn't blow themselves and the universe to smithereens. I suppose some new cool weapon will be discovered and wipe out these new "Ori" people. The Wraith? More really hard to kill, life-sucking, monsters. Can't they come up with any original badguys??? I wish they had left Richard Dean Anderson in. He is about the only humorous guy in the show. I wonder if the game will be any good.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 03:12
I saw the movie, series didn't look that interesting.


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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 03:22
yes..so far this season is ok..but after seeing the first episodes when they came out, it is getting worse every year...and richard is getting older.
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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 05:28
I love Stargate and Stargate Atlantis... I love all Sci-Fi really.

Richard Dean Anderson wasn't forced out. He quit the show to spend more time with his daughter. She was born August 2, 1998... he wants to spend time with her before she grows up. I hate to see him go too because he holds the show together but I don't blame him for his choice.

At least he didn't leave Stargate like Will Wheaton left Star Trek. I still can't stand Will Wheaton because of it. He left Star Trek to do "better things". How dare diss Star Trek like that! Damn kid didn't know how good he had it!
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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 06:59
Heh, true. More to the point you seen Will in anything else since?
I know all I've seen him in are little parts here and there.

I do agreee, the show has become more and more about special effects. This said since Dean-Anderson took over producing it, it has become a lot funnier as well as the acting itself has become more loose. You have more events that make it feel more real. If they'd had that sort of acting and scripts at the start it would really made the show pop.

Personally I do like Atlantis more, but then I like the whole atlantean stuff. There seems to be a darker storyline in the works, showing them to be less the benevolent people they pretend to be.

Well this aside Dean-Anderson has only left the show in a physical side of things. So no more O'Neill, he is still producing.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 08:50
Yeah, but he still guest stars alot though so its not a total waste.

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Quote: "Has anyone ever heard of Stargate? No one I knows likes the show or has seen it."


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Aha, next "deep thought" please....

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 16:41
me and my GF are watching season 5 on DVD right now next week we will buy season 6 lol. But anyhow i like Stargate the original i hate atlantis as its just stupid. Its not even funny too i like the witty remarks that Dean does. Except he isnt there anymore (current season) but thats okie i also like daniel jackson he was sorta funny but not in a bad way or something.

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your all mad atlantis is alot better now, sg1 was at its best during s7-8 either direction is worse, heil atlantis


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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 18:08
Careful chaps, Will Wheaton is an avid amateur programmer, he maintains his own site and stuff. You never know, he could be watching....

P.S. He was in a film called Python the other night on Sci-Fi.
He got eaten, with pink hair.

I hated Will in trek (Sorry Will) but I went to his website recently and rather scarily I found myself liking him more and more. Eventually I realised that it wasn't Will I hated at all, it was Wesley. (Anyone remember Stand By Me? He had a promising future at one time.)

I love Stargate, all the fun of trek without any of that smug, humanity's the best thing ever carry on.

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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 18:13
Atlantis is now better than SG1, but even though SG1 is past it's prime, it's still good TV.

I miss Richard Dean Anderson though


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Posted: 2nd Aug 2005 20:53
And for all the trekkies out there, don't forget it's the last ever episode of Enterprise tonight on Sky One

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Quote: " But anyhow i like Stargate the original i hate atlantis as its just stupid. Its not even funny too i like the witty remarks that Dean does. "
Hey Atlantis isn't that bad. It is somewhat funny. Rodney McCay is one example. This clumsy, sarcastic scientist is one of the only people who are funny on the show. The plot is ok. I wouldn't say it is a great show, but I don't hate it.

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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 03:35
uhh, enterpise ended a long time ago. Why would I want to RE-watch that ending. Horrible really, nothing really ends, it only says here is a episode to tell you that it is over.

And Atlantis isn't bad, you are all just obsessed with SG1's superweapon state now, really WATCH the old SG1, They are very similar in style as atlantis, except they don't have the weapons.

Atlantis has a twisted version of the old SG1 actually. SG1 was find technology to defend earth. Atlantis is find power to save ourselves. Although I haven't seen any of the new season I am recording it though! There were very few allies, and very few enemys in the beginning of SG1, so I say that Atlantis is in it's branching state, pretty soon you'll find even more interesting plots and people. Take the nano-virus, who made it? Or the Wraith lab. Things are starting to get primed, time will only tell where we will go when the producers are ready.

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Quote: "uhh, enterpise ended a long time ago. Why would I want to RE-watch that ending. Horrible really, nothing really ends, it only says here is a episode to tell you that it is over."


Well you don\'t have SkyOne. It aired here last nite at 8pm.
I don\'t know how you can say that nothing really ends either, the entire episode was about the final voyage of the Enterprise crew.

I found it a sad episode, but it really took away from the impact of the ending how Troy and Riker talk about what happens half-way through. I know for them it\'s history, but still. The tie in with The Next Generation was nice too.

It\'s sad there won\'t be another series, but more so because. Enterprise was suppose to be a new begining, to rekindle interest in Star Trek again. Like the new Doctor Who was designed to do.

Just didn\'t quite have that effect, which is a shame because the series as a whole was getting better. What always ticked me off with the previous Star Treks, was how everyone was all \'goodie goodie\'. You know, like they\'ve such a damn high moral code that everyone adhears to and those who don\'t, do it in a very obvious way. For TOS, you can understand because it was set against trying to break down barriers. (although the last season kinda tanked because it got too damn hippie-fest, even the cast have said they really were begining to hate it)
Yet for the more modern generation, you want to see something more down to earth so to speak in how people react and such.

Sure they\'re out there, but this is before \'humanity evolves\' .. so it was actually refreshing to see that rather than some \'everyone loves everyone else no matter race\' thing, you see after the Xindi attack, a Xenophobia on the series. The last few episodes were about a Anti-Alien movement. They were starting to have bad guys that quite frankly you could say \'god that guys an a**hole!\'.. rather than the normal scarey guy in a latex mask threatening everyone to vapourise them all unless they comply.

There was never really an exact Good vs Evil setting to the series.
I quite liked that.

The end series had by far some of the best episodes. Just wish they had comissioned another season, and really told the stories properly rather than some rushed events in order to fit the standard 28 episode season.

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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 05:52 Edited at: 3rd Aug 2005 05:56
UPN were the original hosters of Enterpirse, the show ended like 2 months ago.

And it wasn't a closure ending, it just showed the thing against time, to say that it is over.

P.S. why do people put / in their ', it really isn't that hard to only hit one of the keys.

[edit]
okay, that is the wrong slash. ? I don't get it. it really looks bad because while reading those stand out alot.

wait a second...

[possible total edit]
RICH, will you update the UK server!!! We are not going to SQL attack you...
'OR 1==1--


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I believe the main reason Stargate is funny is because Peter DeLuise is a big part of Stargate. As you know Peter is the son of Dom DeLuise... who's done comedy all his life.

Peter DeLuise -> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0217938/

I seer Michael Shanks (Daniel Jackson) with the same dislike I have for Will Wheaton... yet another actor that thought he was better than everybody else and hated the show that made him famous. I really liked his replacement Corin Nemec (Jonas Quinn).

On Enterprise: I was really mad that the Sci-Fi channel didn't pick up Enterprise to keep the series alive. The Sci-Fi channel helped kill it... and I think they owe it to the franchise that started Sci-Fi good enough for prime time.

I really wish they'd make new versions of Babalon 5 and Lexx.
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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 06:28 Edited at: 3rd Aug 2005 06:35
Uhh, is this with season 8 (or is it 9 aready, i've lost track) because Jackson has already resurected and took over quins possition.

SciFi shows Lexx and Babalon to the past lovers (I can't spell nols... ugg). SciFi only has the NAME SciFi, it doesn't give them power or anything, and UPN is well watched. The show ended because, it ended, ratings aren't the only reasons shows get put off the air.

P.S. Classic, TGN, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise (and Stargate) are all flawed in one very big way. If you are in space, your ship is NOT gonna be as bright as hell (although Enterprise did tone it down a bit) there is very little light-energy in space, unless you are by a light source. When creative designers will learn to simply place a sun near the ship, I will never know.

P.S.S. another good thing about StarGate is the fact that they don't break physics, but bends it. E.X. on one of the older episodes, they send their stargate + X302 into hyperspace in order to get it away from the planet. Now they could have easily said it was 1000 Light Years away, and had light travel super fast so we can see the purdy colors, but they chose to be a bit more logical, however, I think they still had it within our own solar system... and based on the blast size, you would have take a planet or 2 out .

And yes, this is starting to get ignored with the new episodes.
You CAN NOT send the same energy wave all over the universe if it can't travel apox the size of the earth gallaxy (mabey more). Even then, you are spitting the wave for each stargate it goes to so it will only be weaker then it's source.

I know, over analization, but is it really satisfactory for a person to say, "Well this machien does what we don't want it to do so if we reverse the polarity it will do what we want it to do!", well, it was (and is) abused to hell.

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i think those are pretty lame observations, 1st off i wouldent like to see a black siloette moving across the screen and it would be stupid to add stars everywhere its just so that you can see the ship that isnt really a problem.

and about the superweapon on that planet, how do you know? maybe its so awsomely powered that dispersing it through 100odd gates woukldent effect it too much afterall it doesnt that that much of a blast wave to take out replicators.

i prefer stargate to startrecks because its not so in depth with all the crap about shield harmonics and every other episode involves a warp core breach.


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Ask yourself this would you want everyone on the show to be funny? then it'd take away from the seriousness of the situation. So having 1 or two full time sarcastic people make it good and then having all the others just once and awhile throw something funny in is good too.

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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 17:08
darkcoder, it is really simple. The field went ouside the planet, destroyed the ship, then disipated. It never ventured far into the solar system. Even if it had enough energy to be split into the thousands (I forget his exact words) it still didn't go far enough to affect everthing. So impractical.

And NO, I am not bashing. So please do not post as if I were, there is a diffrence.

As for StarTrek, they had their own language, but it was rather stupid. None of it really made much sense.

Star Gate also has its own language. It is called Sam Carter (half physics really). It sounds better and makes a lot more sense then StarTrek.

And all you need to do is have your ship stay with-in solar systems, which StarGate does. Only issue with StarGate is that the gouald MS glow ever so much. Just color it down a bit, add in the lighting, don't have the ship be pre-lit. It does make a noticable difference in Space Warfare.

TGN was horrible with their ship lighing, but then again, it was pre-super graphics.

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well im 'space warefare' i dont think that they aim there guns at the enemys using there own vision they use the ships sensors to determine where to shoot, so they could have neon lights all around the ship and it wouldent matter, and the hat'ak`s pyramid has lights poitning at it thats why you can see it easily however the main hull isnt very illuminated only by the various windows around it.


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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 17:24
I am talking about mood. You haven't watched any other SciFi besides StarGate? Enterprise made some use of shadows I forget how much though, it just makes things feel deeper, and it makes the Specail Effects flow into the scene better. What I am saying is that you don't need ships lit up like a christmas tree, just overlight by 200% and put in shadows. Darkens the contrast, and makes the ship look, 'in place'.

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Quote: "UPN were the original hosters of Enterpirse, the show ended like 2 months ago."


You need to quit talking. Believe it or not, not everyone lives in America. Therefor as far as we're conserned a series is still new to us because it's being first shown from out perspective on a given channel (often SkyOne or SciFi)

Just because the series for YOU has been over for months doesn't mean that everyone else it has been. This is again why I didn't reveal what happened in the episode, because there are people in other counteries who haven't yet seen it who like it.

Quote: "As for StarTrek, they had their own language, but it was rather stupid. None of it really made much sense.

Star Gate also has its own language. It is called Sam Carter (half physics really). It sounds better and makes a lot more sense then StarTrek."


It's called SCIENCE. While some stuff is made up, believe it or not it's also highly researched on currently known physics and such.
Sure each universe has invented substances that provide these fantastic inventions, the science behind them atleast is in-part fact.

Unlike Dr Who, who always flips the polarity of something. (not that I have a problem with unrealistic science either)

Just because YOU don't understand some of the terms and effects mentioned throughout the shows doesn't mean it's instantly 'internal speak'. It's called science, pay moe attention in school!

Though I agree with DCoder, it is annoying how every other week Starfleet ships are on the virge of another Warp Core breech. You'd think after 250years they'd install some sort of trip system so that cascades couldn't feedback to the Core.

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Posted: 3rd Aug 2005 22:26 Edited at: 3rd Aug 2005 22:27
All you needed to say was "The UK does not have UPN access"
I don't keep up with who has what, and to me it sounded like another case of show jacking, where another channel will play old episodes of a show to attract people to their channel. I was merely ill informed.

Quote: "It's called SCIENCE...[usless ranting]..."


Raven, read my posts and don't rant about nothing in particular.

StarTrek (TNG, Voyager, and DS9) all had the same problem of making more stuff up then researching... It got better over the years, but there was a lot of stuff put in to simply apease the writers. And then there are things that just look really bad when you think about it.

Let's take the easiest example. The HoloDeck, in DS9 they constantly talked about how the HoloDeck was a collection of force fields and photons. In TNG they ocasionally said that the HoloDeck had REAL matter in it. Which one makes more sense?

I have no problem understanding them, but it is TOO far out, just be practical. Don't try to make it super-SciFi, but near future. I guess that I drive at Realistic SciFi alot.

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I never really liked Star Trek. It is too serious and the tech terms are confusing. The Borg are kind of cool but they get boring after a while too. I like the action in Stargate when SG-1 or Atlantis battles it out with a high-tech enemy. Evenly matched battles tend to be more boring. I've also never laughed whenever watching Star Trek. There is just no humor.

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Quote: "Uhh, is this with season 8 (or is it 9 aready, i've lost track) because Jackson has already resurected and took over quins possition."


I know. When I said "I liked his replacement"... liked is past tense. I didn't feel it was necessary to mention that he came back 3 years later. I'm all up to date.

One of the things I love about Star Trek is the fact that they use real science. Ever hear them talk about Heisenberg compensators? Heisenberg was a real scientist that theorized that you cannot know the position of a particle and its momentum to arbitrary precision. Because this is a real theory they write in that the transporters use Heisenberg compensators to help the transporters work properly. Star Trek is full of real science.
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Posted: 4th Aug 2005 03:49 Edited at: 4th Aug 2005 03:50
Really twisted science... as I posted above, they don't allways take the simple route.

How Transporters Work 101. They don't, the instant you transport you die. A copy of your concousness is transphered to the copy that is created in the area, blah blah blah. Source, Riker Double episode. can only happen if there are copies being made, no matter how much tech babble you slap in there.

And stargate has quiet science talk, they still talk science now and then, but most people don't realize it when they hear it. Sort of dummed down for our enrichment.

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Quote: "StarTrek (TNG, Voyager, and DS9) all had the same problem of making more stuff up then researching... "


And you know this how? Didn't know you worked on their show as a writer.


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TGN was really the main issue, for the most part. But all you have to do is watch the show and listen to what they say. Sometimes you can agree with them, but other times they say something that is VERY extreame.

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Quote: "How Transporters Work 101. They don't, the instant you transport you die. A copy of your concousness is transphered to the copy that is created in the area, blah blah blah. Source, Riker Double episode. can only happen if there are copies being made, no matter how much tech babble you slap in there."


I would suggest you do your research. Teleportation(Transporter) Technology is currently in it's early and might I add successful stages right now.

Both America and Australia have recently successfully tested Teleport Technology. So you might want to do your research, before saying something doesn't exist.

In-fact everything from the Star Trek universe with the exception of the Warp Engine, is currently in development. Alright maybe most of them are decades, perhaps even a century away from real-world applications but that doesn't mean to say that it's all fantasy.

Over the years the science in ST has got better for the simple fact that as REAL research starts to take place, and theories appear conserning them then the shows writers will have real-world things to base thier science-babble on.

Now seriously. All I've seen from you since you migrated outside of the FPS Creator area are posts like those above. If you want to continue stepping out of your little domain to annoy the rest of the forum, then try to learn the language and meanings of works that supposidely you have grown up using.

Also the episode your talking about was Cross-Dimension, not a Transporter issue. Those episodes are far more open to theory. I mean didn't you ever wonder why he was just a Liutenant?

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Uhh, raven, here you go ranting about nothing again.

If you would read my posts instead of saying, this looks like good ground to start a rant, you would find I was explaining how TGN was dipicting a transporter to work, but contradicting them selfs.

And I did say that they are getting more realistic as the series progress', Enterprise was VERY beilivable. StarTrek original was less conserned about making situations where you would use a lot of tech babble, so that was okay. But paramount went too quickly into the feild, just make things sound as good on screen as off screen.

I know about the transport tech, I think they were at the quantom level though... only moving small amounts of atoms from one dish to another... well, I haven't seen a lot of articles on it recently.

Quote: "In-fact everything from the Star Trek universe with the exception of the Warp Engine, is currently in development. "


We are finally going to exist as energy? Use 100% of our minds to achieve a perfect state of being? YES!!!! (One logical argument for the Q Continum)

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Alright here's something that will catch your interest long enough to actually read.

SHUT THE HELL UP AND GO BACK TO THE FPSC AREA!

Quote: "I know about the transport tech, I think they were at the quantom level though... only moving small amounts of atoms from one dish to another... well, I haven't seen a lot of articles on it recently."


Bollocks, you don't know jack all if that's how you think they work.
God your such an annoying idiot.

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Posted: 4th Aug 2005 08:41 Edited at: 4th Aug 2005 10:21
redo:
I remeber that episode firmly, not sure if we refer to the same episode though, but here is what happends

2 transporter beams were used to "grab" will. 1 managed the task, the other didn't... somewere along the lines will rematerialized on the ship.

Now that ship is on a planet that you can only transport every decade or something. The will THERE had nothing else going on.

The will on enterprised was still in starfleet, got promoted, got a life.

Then they meet up and a lot of stuff happens...



And NO, I don't think transporters work like that, (refering to the above quote) but that is what I had read (at the time) they were able to do in oversimplifyied terms so I am probally screwing something up.

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I live scifi, but both Stargate shows are painfuly silly (not to mention mind-numbingly politically correct unless you're completely brainwashed already)

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Posted: 4th Aug 2005 18:25
i quite like Stargate SG1 and Atlantis, but unfortunately TV down here is pretty crap (if you can't afford Foxtel, our version of cable), so i\'ve had to resort to *ahem*... other means of getting the episodes (good work channel 7, force me into piracy)



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Posted: 4th Aug 2005 19:28
it's not piracy if it was free to begin with...
but then again, mabey it is.

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Posted: 4th Aug 2005 21:27
You're only stealing TV if you take out the commercials... at least that's the way the networks feel about DVR's.

Merranvo is right about teleportation technology being at the quantum level. But the only thing they've done so far is take two atoms (that are entangled) and copy the current state of one atom to the other atom. Which is nowhere near teleporting an actual atom but it is the first step in making quantum computers. Computers so fast that they'll blow away computer in existence... 10,000ghz (just a guess).

Here's the article in my favorite magazine Popular Science:
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,20967,693324,00.html
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Posted: 5th Aug 2005 01:59 Edited at: 5th Aug 2005 02:00
I thought it was "Beam Me Up Scottie" that is the same one I had read! But it was a long time ago, or mabey I also read it from another mag.

I think there are like 32 quantum states... so if it is just a factor of how fast our computers are now, it would be 3.2^32 or 14615016373309029 ghz. but then again, I don't know nothing!

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Posted: 5th Aug 2005 05:33
Did you know that "Beam me up Scottie" was never actually said in the show?

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Posted: 5th Aug 2005 12:43
Yeah, I like Stargate, got near enoguh the whole series and Atlantis is getting stocked up on as well, bout the only Sci-fi show that I collect. It's good how one Film can generate 9 series and a spin off as well.

Will look forward to when the game comes out in Oct-Nov time this Year. Looks not bad.
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Posted: 5th Aug 2005 12:47
Stargate, the game.

Kill every enemy INSTANTLY, with a Zatnitikal, has unlimited ammo and kills after two shots...

What do you mean you won't be doing that...

How can you have a show based game if you don't even follow the show.

Who cares about it being too easy...

Well FINE...

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Posted: 5th Aug 2005 12:50
Well, I supopse you do get silly things in a game but hey, we've got things called cheats that probably do the same thing as 1 hit kills same as two hitas with a Zat and maybe riddle a few bullets in them as well
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Posted: 5th Aug 2005 13:25
cheater...

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Posted: 5th Aug 2005 15:46
i hardly doubt that you would be able to use the zat for all the missions more like p90,m9 and besides you need to use a ter for some enemys and the enhanced thing you put onto the p90 so you can damage the super soldiers assuming they will have them, im guessing they will make the zat have a not so fast fire rate so it would be highly unwise to jump into a patrol of 10 jaffa with only a zat.

but why would they make the game so easy? seems pointless


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