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Geek Culture / Discovery on it's way down

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BatVink
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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 14:27
Watch it live, including transmission audio to and from the shuttle, flight path and other "cool stuff"!

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp/viewer/index.php?client_id=5321&event_id=15891

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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 15:17
Phew!

Perfect landing - and a beautiful one too!


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Benjamin
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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 15:41
For a second I thought you were talking about the channel.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 15:46
hmmm... title choice a bit misleading. I thought you meant it was crashing...

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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 17:16
well...it was always gonna come down, it`s the way it does it thats important , it`s a pity that after all that work it`s grounded again, I would have thought they would have checked that air ramp, especialy since it was an air ramp that broke off on that last fatal flight, but according to what I read they checked everything else but decided that wouldn`t be a problem and didn`t bother with it??? weird.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 17:20
Missed it

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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 17:32 Edited at: 9th Aug 2005 17:34
Did anyone read on Teletext a couple of nights ago that some person (called "FR") didn't believe that they had actually gone to space, due to lack of engine noise and what-not, when they were fixing the shuttle ?

I did send a rather sarcastic reply, but unfortunately it wasn't published... A few other peoples were though.

I had though taking the insulating foam from between the tiles would cause problems (due to a gap possibly appearing between them), but it seems that I was wrong...

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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 17:35 Edited at: 9th Aug 2005 17:49
Quote: " lack of engine noise and what-not, when they were fixing the shuttle ?"


a) they turn off low frequency mic pickup near engines for rocckets etc, to stop them from blowing the mic (and the output)

b) Why would the engine be on once in space? The shuttle has no engine except the back boosters - which aren't used in space! Its in orbit!

Good of you to send a sarcastic reply


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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 17:45
Sounds like he was a technically adept person, judging his theory on sound scientific knowledge...that a space craft in orbit is powered by engines.

5.8 million miles worth of fuel, keeping the Discovery at a constant 17,000 miles per hour. Sounds plausible.

Think of the Shell points they'd have! You could stock an entire chain of pubs with the glasses you could exchange them for.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 17:55 Edited at: 9th Aug 2005 17:58
Plus, of course, sound cant travel through space... Someone on Teletext was hoping that "FR" was joking, and if not, it shows the poor state of our education system (or something).

So, if aliens did come a-visiting there would be no-one around to hear no-one scream...

We'll now have to see how long it takes NASA to fix all the problems that were discovered... I can see the ISS being abandoned if it cant be fixed fairly quickly.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 18:03 Edited at: 9th Aug 2005 18:04
Quote: " Plus, of course, sound cant travel through space..."


Well... if you wanted to get really technical, there is 'Thermostatic sound distortion' (No, its nothing to do with your Thermostat! , lol; I mean the Thermosphere in the upper atmsophere) which apparently creates the 'illusion' of sound when in a certain distance of the Earths atmosphere (something to do with atmospheric material leaving the thermosphere...)

But I won't go into that



Oh yeah, and dont dis teh edukation thing. Me edukated well mon.


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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 18:24 Edited at: 9th Aug 2005 18:25
Cant seem to find any information about that, I'm afraid... Sounds interesting...

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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 18:43
Quote: "I can see the ISS being abandoned if it cant be fixed fairly quickly."

Some people say that there are other people at a certain space agency who wouldn't be very sad about that.


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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 18:44 Edited at: 9th Aug 2005 18:49
Quote: " Cant seem to find any information about that, I'm afraid... Sounds interesting...
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Neither can I, which is weird, since we did a load of stuff about it in Physics on our last day of term.

Whether our physics teacher was talking total crap, I don't know. Then again, he may of been making up all sorts of rubbish just in order to survive the last day.....

Still searching google


EDIT: I've found a little bit of info;
Quote: "The thermosphere also includes the region of the Earth's atmosphere called the ionosphere. The ionosphere is the region of the atmosphere that is filled with charged particles. Elevated temperatures can sometimes cause a molecule to become ionized, therefore, the ionosphere and thermosphere can overlap.

Ionization processes release energy which heat up the upper atmosphere. So temperature increases with height in the ionosphere region to the extent that by 150-200km, the Earth's atmosphere is extremely hot compared to surface temperatures.

Different regions of the ionosphere make long distance radio communication possible by reflecting the radio waves back to Earth. It is also home to auroras and the mega-ampere currents that heat the atmosphere at high latitudes during geomagnetically active times. During storms, depletions and enhancements of ionization occur depending on the local time and geographical location.

Aeronomy is a term of recent origin which is applied to the processes, both physical and chemical, of the ionosphere.
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Whatever we were studying (if it actually exists!) was something to do with ionization, and its effect on electrons, which some how creates sound without an actual atmosphere. Still searching....


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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 19:34
Quote: "So, if aliens did come a-visiting there would be no-one around to hear no-one scream"


Useless fact...did you know that the nearest place to Earth that has any possibility of being populated with aliens is so far away, they would be seeing us in the 17th century if they had the technology to see us at all.

Unless of course they are able to "see" faster than the speed of light.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 19:37
Another useless fact:

Light from other galaxies takes so long to reach us, that within the next 2 milion years, over 580,000 stars we see at night will of dissapeared

(since there light takes so long to reach us, the next time the light can reach us, the star will of imploded, or become a black dwarf)


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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 19:38
sky news have loads of info on it!

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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 19:57
Bah - don't like sky news. Too garish.

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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 20:53
they dont implode, they explode. Every star goes nova. Not supernova, BUT EVERY star goes nova. Fact. Then some become white dwarfs, or black holes. Black dwarfs are the complete last state, and are not completely proven (as in there are a portionable percent in the astronomical community who say it they do not exist).
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Posted: 9th Aug 2005 20:56 Edited at: 9th Aug 2005 20:58
Quote: "Some people say that there are other people at a certain space agency who wouldn't be very sad about that.
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Which would be a shame really - it could be rather useful...

Quote: "Unless of course they are able to "see" faster than the speed of light."

Or time travel... After the Voyager probe was launched, scientists came to the conclusion it probably wasn't a terribly good idea to give coordinates to Earth...

Quote: "Still searching...."

Probably your teacher was smoking something illegal...

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