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Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 10th Aug 2005 13:56
thats right, i plan on getting a quad bike, but first of all, there are a few things i need to know:

1) how legal is "road legal", as in, im living in the UK, what roads can and can't i go on?
2) next yr i plan on moving to france, near the spanish border, so i'd also like to know what "road legal" means in france and spain
3) does anyone know of any desent brands/models to look out for? im thinking of the £1000-£2000 region.
optical r
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Posted: 10th Aug 2005 14:33
i dont think thre'yre are any road legal quads, but an alternative tha is COMPLETELY road legal is the Qpod.

http://www.uniquemotorcompany.co.uk/home.html

check out the web-site for details - i can't remeber the price ranges tho, i tdoes around 40mph.

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Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 11th Aug 2005 13:14
Quote: " i dont think thre'yre are any road legal quads"


get out of my thread.

a majority of quads are road legal and can do over 60mph. here's one i've been looking at:

http://www.masai-leisure.co.uk/images/products/l150/l150.html
dark coder
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Posted: 11th Aug 2005 13:57
how often do you see a quadbike going down the road? uhh never the only roads thell be allowed on is probably c roads.


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Posted: 11th Aug 2005 16:22 Edited at: 11th Aug 2005 16:30
strange to say, they where not legal on safety grounds, but the law was recently modified to make quads legal (its something to do with the european rules and low capacity quadracycle cars) and the quad bike makers jumped on this to force their bikes onto the market, quad bikes are unstable, dangerous and definitley NOT safe in traffic, they don`t handle as well as a real bike and they don`t handle anything like a car, in the wet they get skidhappy, a combination of low ground loading, huge tyres and surface water can make for some seriously trouser filling moments from all accounts, I`ll stick to having a set of tin walls, crumple zones, seatbelts and airbags thanks.

Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 11th Aug 2005 18:14
sigh... sorry i made this thread, its a waste of space, all i wanted to know was the answer to some of these questions, and the only people who respond are retards who are convinced theres no such thing as a road legal quad bike (except for "me!"). sorry i asked.

i know road legal quad bikes exist, i've seen them driving through city streets in both france and england, so much for the "c roads" idea.

as for "me!", stop being such a bloody killjoy, quad bikes are FUN!
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Posted: 11th Aug 2005 18:21
well...im not exactly an autority on quads but you DID ask so i thought id give some reply, but anyway..............................

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Darkbasic MADPSP
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Posted: 11th Aug 2005 18:26
There are some "road legal" quads i've actually seen them in spain i wouldn't worry they go down all the main roads and that so you should be ok

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Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 11th Aug 2005 18:30
cheers, see guys? darkbasic mad's got the right idea.
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Posted: 11th Aug 2005 18:32
me and my dad were looking at some yesterday, but i'm from the states so i wont say anything more...

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Posted: 11th Aug 2005 19:01
I just prefer people alive and healthy rather than dead or crippled, I don`t think it would be right for me to say, "hey, yeah! great! cool idea! go for dude!" when I am sure in my heart of hearts they aint safe, I don`t even like my nephews using their scooters what with all the "captain volvos" out there, it was different in my youth, the roads where quiter and most of the other road users where sane, localy a few years ago we had some nutter going round running bikes off the road deliberatley, they never caught him/her though even though they knew it was a yellow astra, like I say, four tin walls, seatbelts, airbags and crumplezones for me, just cos something looks like a good idea doesn`t mean it`s wise to do it, you`re sometimes better off letting practicality prevail over enthusiasm.

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Posted: 11th Aug 2005 20:14
how can you call us retards for not agreeing with you? the idea of using a quad bike for normal every day use communiting to work or going to the local store is totally impracticle let along unsafe as Me! said and i agree this topic is pointless cause you just end up insulting everyone that doesnt agree with your crazy idea. go ahed buy a quad bike go down a motorway skid off the barriers weeeeeee!


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Quote: "it was different in my youth"

you must be old, because only dense, uneducated old people say that.

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MiR
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Posted: 11th Aug 2005 22:27
Teh Go0rfmeister: I don`t know about the Uk but in Spain quads can be fully legal. Of cause you have to have road lights, license plates and what not. Though I`m pretty sure he`s used it on the motorway. I can confirm it if you want.
WWhat quad are you thinking of getting?


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Posted: 12th Aug 2005 00:38
Quote: " how often do you see a quadbike going down the road? uhh never the only roads thell be allowed on is probably c roads."


There is this weird lady who lives in my town, She always drives a quad around, It has a reg plate etc , All road legal...

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@eddie its cgi


Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 12th Aug 2005 01:49 Edited at: 12th Aug 2005 01:51
im not calling you a retard for disagreeing with me, im calling people retards for saying theres no such thing as a road legal quadbike, or that, as you put it, they can only go on "c-roads".

im sorry but i just get deeply offended when i know something for a fact and then someone comes along and tries to tell me i'm wrong, like they know better than me, its like an insult to my inteligence.

mir, please can you confirm what you were saying about using it on the motorway, i'd really like to know, not whether he did it or not, but where it's actually legal to, cheers. might sound strange but i know some countries allow quadbikes on the motoroways, for example in turkey i went on a motorway with a convoy of quads.

ps - please dont lecture me on quadbikes being unsafe or whatever.

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Posted: 12th Aug 2005 01:53
Quote: "Q: What licence do I need for a road legal quad?
A: A full UK car licence is all that is required.

Q: Do I need to wear a helmet?
A: Classed as PLG (Private light goods) there is no legal requirement but we Strongly recommend you do for safety reasons!

Q: Are they fast?
A: Yes! a Ram 170 can do around 55mph and a Ram 250 around 70mph it is possible to further increase power with Performance upgrades. Please call for further information.

Q: Are they safe for on road use?
A: Yes all ram quad bikes meet with DOT safety requirements and are fully legal for on road use.We do however advise extreme caution particularly in the early stages of learning to handle your bike.

Q: Are they economical to run?
A: Yes! depending on your age insurance is cheap and you can fill the tank for around £6!

Q: Where do you deliver?
A: Centrally located we are ideally placed to cover the whole of the UK and offer Nationwide delivery.With free delivery to many areas.

Q: How many passengers can I take?
A: Ram 170e,250e,250Q quads are licenced as two seat vehicles so can legally transport two people.

Q: What fuel do they take?
A: Just pull into your local garage and fill up with unleaded!"


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Posted: 12th Aug 2005 02:20
i still think its a stupid idea


Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 12th Aug 2005 03:08 Edited at: 12th Aug 2005 03:12
oh i see, the 4th invisible question which asks "what do people think about me gettin a quad bike?"

i dont care what people think, all i wanted to know was how legal "road legal" is for here, france and spain, and also if there were any decent brands i should look out for.

lets look at it from my point of view:
a decent brand new car: £20,000 to £30,000
a decent brand new quadbike: £1,000 to £3,000 and they're far more fun.

quadbikes arent unsafe, i dont see why your having a go at me for apparently risking my life in getting one, i've ridden one before, both on and off road, and as far as im aware, im still alive today. going through the country side you will sometimes find 7 yr old kids driving them to carry some piece of farming equipemnt between fields. and would the governments make them road legal if they were deathtraps?

sure a lot of people feel safer driving a car, but im a natural thrill seeker, i do all kinds of crazy stuff with mates at school. our latest idea was to get into paragliding, but i had to back out due to lack of money

Quote: "localy a few years ago we had some nutter going round running bikes off the road deliberatley, they never caught him/her though even though they knew it was a yellow astra"


what your actually saying there is that quad bikes arent dangerous, its the other road users around them in yellow astras

Quote: "go ahed buy a quad bike go down a motorway skid off the barriers weeeeeee!"


why excactly would i wanna do that?

i'd only ever use motorways for long distance travel, in which case i'd probably need to use a car, and since im 17, i can still get away with use my mums car for that kind of stuff ^_^

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fine heres a very possible example, since your such an amazing 'thrill seeker' and you decided to drive your quadbike down a main road and a fly goes into your eye what are you gonna go then? calmly slow down and pull over to the side of the road? or more likely try and get it out of your eye loose control fall of and paint the roads with a nice new colour.

the fact is that cars are alot more safe if you had a head on collision car to car say 30mph then you may get hurt slightly but its unlikely it will be any long lasting injuries but if you did the same car and a quadbike the cars is gonna plow through you and your gonna get knocked off smash into the windscreen of the car.


Quote: "going through the country side you will sometimes find 7 yr old kids driving them to carry some piece of farming equipemnt between fields"


but thats like totally different to riding it on a road with other vehicles and road laws to abide by, driving across a field is hardly much of a risk whats the wort that could happen? loose control and hit a tree? hit a pot hole and come off? i would prefer that to hitting a car anyday.

the fact is quadbikes are alot more unsafe than cars and since its an offroad designed vehicle you will more likely be tempted to ride it offroad go over some jumps and whatnot whos to say you wont take the same sort of chances on a road? thats how most car/bike accidents happen isnt it? im sure that if you abide by all the laws/regulations then the chances are you might be fine..


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Posted: 12th Aug 2005 11:03 Edited at: 12th Aug 2005 11:04
Quote: " Though I`m pretty sure he`s used it on the motorway"


whos said i did? i said i had seen them

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Quote: "fine heres a very possible example, since your such an amazing 'thrill seeker' and you decided to drive your quadbike down a main road and a fly goes into your eye what are you gonna go then?"


Watch as it bounces of the visor of his full face helmet?
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Posted: 12th Aug 2005 16:18
Quote: "lets look at it from my point of view:
a decent brand new car: £20,000 to £30,000
a decent brand new quadbike: £1,000 to £3,000 and they're far more fun"


actualy you can buy a new car thats much superior to your quad for £4700, four seats, roof, heater, girlfriend compatable back seat, MUCH more fun

http://www.perodua-uk.com/kelisa.htm

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@winch i forgt to add without a helmet


Teh Go0rfmeister
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Quote: "but thats like totally different to riding it on a road with other vehicles and road laws to abide by, driving across a field is hardly much of a risk whats the wort that could happen? loose control and hit a tree? hit a pot hole and come off? i would prefer that to hitting a car anyday."


i meant country lanes, noob.

and about flies getting in my eyes, i say this: "oh noes!!11one".

i cycle long distances on a regular basis, im always getting flies in my eyes, im used to it; not a problem for me any more.

Quote: "actualy you can buy a new car thats much superior to your quad for £4700, four seats, roof, heater, girlfriend compatable back seat, MUCH more fun

http://www.perodua-uk.com/kelisa.htm"


that car looks UGLY!

dark coder, can i ask, are you to scared to even go out of your house for fear of tripping over a crack in the pavement?

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ur the noob hangliding isnt very rangerous go skydiving instead, and your such a retard just get a motorcross bike instead there like 1000x better than a crappy quadbike


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dammit i really wanna see you noob slapped. im not old enough to go skydiving, and dont you think if i cant afford to go paragliding (different to hanggliding - noob point number 2) i definately cant afford to go skydivinng- although i'd love to do it and yes it probably is more fun than paragliding. it wasnt really my idea, just some of my mates were talking about it and asked if i wanted to do it.

why do you have a go at me saying quad bikes are unsafe, and then tell me to get a motorcross bike? you do realise that if you crash on a bike on a main road or motorway at high speed, you WONT live to tell the tale.

besides, motoerbikes arent really my thing, and you cant use them for utility like you can with a quadbike or car.

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on a side note, can i ask you to fix your sig- or the server its on please? it causes this threads with you in it to take far longer than they should to load.

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Teh Go0rfmeister
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edit: i got told to turn my caps off just for that smily :S

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ok look here is a link to a website and for fook sake quit with all the fking swearing and callings people noob
http://www.atveng.com/faq.html


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Posted: 13th Aug 2005 19:56 Edited at: 13th Aug 2005 21:03
cheers! added to bookmarks.

edit: reading through it now, i dont understand this, i think it might be out dated or something, its saying that they're not road legal due to the tyre PSI.

quad bikes are road legal, i've seen them driving on the roads, even with police around, and i've asked an authority who told me that they were road lega, just not on motorways and all i needed was a standard car driving liscense. and then theres all these places selling "road legal" quads. i think they know what they're selling.

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Let me simply fix this.. If you want fun, road legal, and so you dont look funny going down the road next to a car and pulling up to your job site in a quad... Get a motorcycle(which can definately be cheaper than cars)



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Ok. They`re not allowed on motorways. Quite logical if you think about it. A 400cc can only do 120km/h max. You can do still go on normals roads though (a roads are they called?).


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Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 14th Aug 2005 00:19
a roads in england are main roads, normally dual carriage ways.

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Ah. Try b roads then. Nah. Can`t rmember. Just don`t go on any roads that have an average speed of 140km/h and you`re be fine. Infact can you reach that speed in England? I went there last October and we didn`t get past 50miles/h. No matter how much we tried to speed past a camera we couldn`t manage it.


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yeh speed limits in britain are just here for people to break them, get seen on camera and then give the government a lot of money afterwards, they're not there for any form of safety.

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Quote: "yeh speed limits in britain are just here for people to break them, get seen on camera and then give the government a lot of money afterwards, they're not there for any form of safety"


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