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DarkBASIC Discussion / Can anyone help with this problem I'm having?

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Colonel Cool
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Posted: 10th Aug 2005 22:26 Edited at: 10th Aug 2005 22:27
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I've been hard at work on a Tile Editor for use in making maps in my planned RPG Mystic I: Quest of A Lifetime. Anyways I can't save the maps right, and how do I load them back in the editor and in the game. How do I use triggers for use in my game and editor, and my characters. I really really need help, I've been using open to write and saving it as text files it freezes sometimes and when I load the map it stays the same as before I loaded it. Can anyone give me some help, and I hope you don't flame me. I have a screenshot to prove my editor exists, and I've tried Zen's tutorial on this stuff but it's not done and his site requires a password. He hasn't been here on the forums for awhile either at least I don't think so. I am not a veterean programmer but I'm not exactly a noob I already have the book on DarkBASIC Programming. I've also tried save array and load array and everything else under the sun. I've visted threads on this
and not much is different from what I'm doing. Why isn't it working!
Please someone help.

Ogre Software - RPGs and Tools Made In DBC
Release Date For Mystic I: November 2005

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TDK
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Posted: 10th Aug 2005 22:36
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This isn't a flame, so please don't take it as one. I am trying to help.

My question has to be, why are you trying to write a complicated program like this if you don't understand the basics of DB file saving and loading?

You should be writing small example snippets of code which use the features you want to use. When I started, I spent months writing lots of useless little examples until I knew what the commands did inside out.

The problem with jumping in at the deep end as you have, is that the help you need is so wide-ranging, it's difficult for us to help you.

However, had you been writing a load/save data example you could ask for specific help on why it's freezing and post a bit of code for us to look at.

As such, no-one can tell you why it's not working I'm afraid.

Rip out the section of code that isn't working and try and get it working OUTSIDE the main program. Post snippets back on here if necessary later and we'll try to help.

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Colonel Cool
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Posted: 12th Aug 2005 20:37
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Okay I fixed the freezing problem, I know how to save and load. I'm just going to stop asking for help I never get it.

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Posted: 12th Aug 2005 21:08
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Quote: "I'm just going to stop asking for help I never get it."


thing is some guy, TDK couldn't help without any code.. but advise from someone with experience is something you should appreciate..

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Posted: 12th Aug 2005 23:08
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Quote: "I'm just going to stop asking for help I never get it"


Not sure how you can say that actually.

http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=58405&b=10

In that post, you asked a question and I suggested a way to do what you wanted to do. You then said you were going to do what someone else said instead. That's fair enough.

But, you then return to say that what they had said wouldn't work either and you were just going to "experiment".

I used up my time to help you and you just ignored me.

In this thread, I let you know that you haven't given enough info for anyone to help and you complain that no-one will help you.

Most of us are always willing to help you if we can, but you have to give us something to go on.

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Colonel Cool
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Posted: 13th Aug 2005 01:08
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I meant good help, I gave up on my map editor just not good enought.
I'm just going to fade in the darkness, I'll try google.

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My Current Project: Mystic I: Quest of A Lifetime
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Posted: 13th Aug 2005 01:19
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TDK, before you feel too downhearted, I'd like to thank you for trying to help people who ask for assistance. I hope that if I ask for help and you read my post, you won't feel embittered by past experiences and will continue to attempt to help.

Thank you from a noob who appreciates someone who helps people.
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Posted: 13th Aug 2005 01:40 Edited at: 13th Aug 2005 02:01
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@some guy

stop going into a huff.. not only did TDK try and help you last time and u just completely ignored him, but he tried to help you again just cos hes trying to be nice, and when its obviously imposibble to help you unless someone makes a whole map editor for you, you start complaining, and you dont say like normal people do "oh yes, ok, heres more info about what i need help with, blah blah blah. " you say "im gonna stop asking for help because i dont get it", your not gonnna get it when noone knows what to help you with, and when you have the chance to be helped just be posting a little more info, you take a strop and everyone just relises that they tried to help someone that doesnt appreciate it if its not suited exactly to your needs

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you: hi mrs teacher, i need help with this maths
teacher: ok, what part would you like help with
you: huh? you didnt give me the help i wanted, im going to just have to google it

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Posted: 13th Aug 2005 03:29 Edited at: 13th Aug 2005 03:32
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Tinkergirl:

Of course I'll still help anyone if I can - even Some Guy if he can't find what he's after on Google and comes back!

I want more people to use DB - not scare them off and the thing that will do that quicker than anything else is when a user who's never programmed before expects to be able to do amazing things straight away. When they can't they get discouraged and give up.

DB is a language and you can't teach yourself everything in a few weeks - it takes month and even years. I started programmng back around 1977 and there's still plenty I need help with!

Sometimes you have to tell people they are aiming to high. Some take it graciously, others think you are having a go at them. Either way, I never take it personally lol.

Any new DB programmer reading this should appreciate that if anyone on the forums suggest that they are trying to run before they can walk is giving you GOOD advice - not refusing to help you.

DB is great fun, but you have to learn the basic stuff which at first is very boring and no fun at all. How can you learn to write if you don't know the alphabet?

But once you know the boring stuff, the fun stuff becomes much easier.

The main thing is not to make your first program one which you have no way of completing.

If you do need to ask for help on the forum, please try and be as specific as possible about your problem to give someone the best chance of being able to answer.

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Posted: 13th Aug 2005 07:05 Edited at: 13th Aug 2005 07:06
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Quote: "Okay I fixed the freezing problem, I know how to save and load. I'm just going to stop asking for help I never get it."


Saying "I deserve help and if I don't get it i'll run away.". You're crazy if you think people will be concerned if you carry out the threat of leaving.

Two things I don't like about helping some people... the attiude that their owed code... and the lack of thanks after helping them.

But since there's no way of knowing who's going to appreciate help... we must continue to help as best we can... just as TDK already does.
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