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TDP Enterprises
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Another useless poll broght to you by TDP ENterprises:

This one is simple, are you a star trek nerd, or are you a star wars nerd. Or are you like me, and hate star wars and star treks nerds, and are just a casual fan???

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Posted: 24th Aug 2005 00:48
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Neither. Although I prefer Star Wars. But do love Trek too.

Watch those Trekkie films with that once fit bird who died a few series in on TNG. You get some right sados on those films. Anyone remember the "Commander", or that town in Canada renamed to "Vulcan" (apparently they reckon this years convention may get some birds). God.....

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I hate everyone and everything.

Even my liver.


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Posted: 24th Aug 2005 00:50
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I am a silent fan of star wars (star trek was okay too though). I dont know much more than what was in the movies though.

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Brilliant jimmy, brilliant, i award you this nobel prize for economics...

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TDP, you are getting to be "The One" with these subjects you know. Is a bit like the Matrix and it reboots every 2 months or so. Luckily your subjects are more entertaining than past "Neos".

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what can i say, i know what the people want...

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I didn't say it was a good thing to be "The One", so don't let the subjects slack! eg. Why water sucks. would be a no-no.

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what about: Clasps: in the front, back, or both?

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I like star wars, but i also like star trek...and there are more star treks then star wars...

Voyager was the best series ever

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Quote: "what about: Clasps: in the front, back, or both?"
Both. But only if you can get away with pink.

Quote: "and there are more star treks then star wars"
Precisely; too watered down. Look at "Enterprise". What a load of rubbish until the first half of the last series. Spoiler:



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Quote: "Both. But only if you can get away with pink.
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I think purple is hot too...

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"Enterprise"
was NOT star trek

look at the requirments for being a star trek, Tv series
A) Star Trek theme song
B) Entertaining
C) Good
D) Being willing to knock off a few expendable crewmen
E) Technology that looks like it belongs in that time frame

ok..now i will list how Enterprise violated every single rule...

A) we won't even talk about the 80s country theme
B) yeah...
C) yeah...x2
D) Well, yeah violated
E) Transporters are experimental yet all of their stuff is shinier than kirk's ship... (it's supposed to be set before all the other star treks but the ship looks too darn shiny...and advanced...)

...yeah...i hated Enterprise...yet i watched almost all the episodes...(grandma recorded them and i didn't have anything else to do... )

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enterprise was my favorite because of the 80's country music....you suck

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Quote: "we won't even talk about the 80s country theme"
Best thing in it. Although the intro of the mirror episode was brilliant. If they do a new series it should totally be the mirror universe.

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The intro was awesome

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Quote: "(it's supposed to be set before all the other star treks but the ship looks too darn shiny...and advanced...)"

Didn't anyone notice that all the technology in the recent star wars films looked way superiour to that of the original 3 films? The new films were supposed to be set several decades earlier, so shouldn't the technology have looked like it was out of the 50's?

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dude, have you even seen episode 3, the ship at the end with darth vader in it has all of those useless huge blinking lights and simple gray backgrounds.

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I thought that. But then I thought it was because things went down the tubes after Darth came along, so everything was falling to bits after that.

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They styled all of the ships and everything at the end of episode 3 just to tie it in, it all looke dout of place because the technology looked like it had gone backwards a few decade. But then again, it's only a film, I don't care, the only actor who ever played a jedi properly was Liam Neeson and they killed him off, so that really shows how seriously the makers were taking it.

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how do you know it looks like it went backwords?
isnt that how technology moves foward, with a cleaner more simple design.

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it's because Goerge Lucas just had to make almost everything digital

he should have stuck with the models...they looked like ships that had actually been used...instead of everything looking like it's fresh out of the factory...

he was the first one to create that "used" look but he threw it away with episode I

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episode 1 sucked "butt"

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Consider this:

When Lucas released Empire Strikes Back only 4 people in the world knew about the "I and you father." bit, not even Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) knew about it, on the set they used the line "Obewan killed your father." to get the reaction from him and re-dubbed it later. So when the film premiered it was a huge shock (that wouldn't be taken seriously if repeated by another film maker) that made the film feel a lot better.

When it came to the prequals, George let slip loads of secrets from the films, such as Darth Maul, if they had kept the character a secret and hit everyone with the double-saber in the film rather then in the trailers it would've been better received because things happened that we weren't expected. But no, he went a spoilt all the best bits in almost all 3 films. Heck, the saber fight with General Grievous could've been a heck of a lot better, but they didn't want to make Yoda look back...

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I love all sci-fi but I like Star Trek more than Star Wars because I grew up watching Kirk, Spock, and Bones adventures. My entire family are loyal fans but not the kind that go to conventions, wear weird outfits, and tell everybody their Captain such-and-such of the Starship NCC Whatever... we know it's fiction.

My family hates the intro to Enterprise too.
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To Whom This May Concern (Namely Noone) at TDP Enterprises,

Matthew Jerome Walsh (hereby referred to as I or me) has noticed you average about 0.25 posts / minute (1 post / 4 minutes) currently, on the 23rd day of August in the year Two Thousand and Five, at 19 minutes after 10 O'Clock in the evening. Each one of these messages amount to Nothing (otherwise known as crap, or what you look like). Stop posting crap and I may stop (discontinue) my hatred (this is about as unlikely as Teh Mouster saying "Yo" (otherwise known as "Hello Good Friend"))

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I think we should hire Vader and Spoke to go round TDP's house and rough him up a bit. Perhaps pull his modem from the wall; save us all some sanity.

Plus Paramount and LucasFilms could make millions of royalties by showing it on the big screen with 90% of the footage CGI of him being thrown against the wall and having stange aliens do things to him.. hmm perhaps put it on HBO or FOX.

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Quote: "Another useless poll broght to you by TDP ENterprises:"


PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, STOP POSTING THESE!


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Quote: "not even Mark Hamill (Luke Skywalker) knew about it"
On the extras disk that came with the trilogy re-release, he says he did know about it. They said the guy who played Darth Vader (David Prowse?) didn't know about it, and he actually said Obi-Wan killed your father. Wasn't until later he found out the real dialog was different. Not as if they needed him to look any different (he's behind a mask) while saying the line. If Mark didn't know about it to get a realistic reaction, I seriously doubt his instinctive reaction would be to yell like and idiot and screw his face up like a chimp. At a guess I'm sure the actor would have gone "Eh?" and raised an eyebrow as an instinctive reaction.

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Oh, and TDP, you are now "The One". Essentially the Ubern00b who posts tonnes of daft threads. Normally a new one comes along every 2 months, spams like mad, then disappear after a few weeks under a load of abuse. Personally I think you are all the same user who changes their user name to start afresh, then can't help themselves. Strange how there can be only one (at a time)...

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Quote: "Voyager was the best series ever"


I think Babylon 5 was the best ever. It was more grimy than most series. Loved that. Star Trek is too clean, to ordered. Star Wars is okay, I suppose.

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Star Trek. Next......

Favourite series had to have been Voyager, esecially hte later seasons. And season 3 of Enterprise wasn't half bad either. Why didn't they do the Xindi thing first, that would have got way more viewers.

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I hate Star Trek.

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Quote: "On the extras disk that came with the trilogy re-release, he says he did know about it. They said the guy who played Darth Vader (David Prowse?) didn't know about it, and he actually said Obi-Wan killed your father. Wasn't until later he found out the real dialog was different. Not as if they needed him to look any different (he's behind a mask) while saying the line. If Mark didn't know about it to get a realistic reaction, I seriously doubt his instinctive reaction would be to yell like and idiot and screw his face up like a chimp. At a guess I'm sure the actor would have gone "Eh?" and raised an eyebrow as an instinctive reaction."


The reason why none of this makes sense is that there's a huge dialog after the "I am your father" line where Vader holds out his hand to Luke and starts talking about ruling the world as 'father and son', therefore, both actors must have known about the line.


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Quote: "Favourite series had to have been Voyager, esecially hte later seasons. And season 3 of Enterprise wasn't half bad either. Why didn't they do the Xindi thing first, that would have got way more viewers.
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hehe yeah i agree, after they dropped "Kess" the voyager series got so much better

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I like star wars much better then trek... well, except for a certain star wars rerelease where han dosen't shoot first...

Of course its nerdy to pay attention to details like that.

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Quote: "Why didn't they do the Xindi thing first"
Because that was weak. Fair enough it was better than the first series. Just. BTW, they met the Borg right? So how come in the future no-one has ever heard of them? Why aren't they all looking at Archer's logs?

Quote: "after they dropped "Kess""
No way dude, she was tops.

Quote: "therefore, both actors must have known about the line"
Why? The bit about joining the dark side doesn't mean he knew he was his son. I mean he is pretty powerful, so can always help the empire. Son or not. Anyway, watch the extra DVD on the trilogy.

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star trek the next generation by far

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>This one is simple, are you a star trek nerd, or are you a star
>wars nerd.

Neither, I prefer a more dark gloomy vision of the future as in Alien and Blade Runner. ST and SW are just too clean!

>Or are you like me, and hate star wars and star treks
>nerds, and are just a casual fan???

I'm no bigot, I hate them all!


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STAR WARS !!


Star Trek is good too, but I'm an obsessed Star Wars fan ...

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Quote: "The reason why none of this makes sense is that there's a huge dialog after the "I am your father" line where Vader holds out his hand to Luke and starts talking about ruling the world as 'father and son', therefore, both actors must have known about the line. "


Nobody knew that the guy who played Darth Vader (including the actor himself) would have his voice taken out and replaced with James Earl Jones.
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Quote: "Nobody knew that the guy who played Darth Vader (including the actor himself) would have his voice taken out and replaced with James Earl Jones. "


Well, considering JEJ did the voice in Episode 4, then I'm sure they all knew he would still be doing it in the sequel. Although, I will see if the extra is on the version of the trilogy I own.


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