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Fallout
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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 13:27
Ignore if you have no interest in RC!

Me and mate took my truck out to the infamous Farley Mount yesterday (not infamous for RC, but infamous for an uncaught rapist .. ... woohoo! ... ). We spend half the day bashing my truck about, high speed offroad stuff, jumps, scrambling etc. If you're into a bit of RC, take a look. Plenty of action. If you've got some spondoolah available and live close to some countryside, I'd highly recommend it!


Farley Mount Bash (WMV 40MB)

Lemme know what ya think.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 14:15 Edited at: 7th Sep 2005 14:19
I used to race a Tamiya Hotshot, but nowdays my toys fly , I currently have a Yak55 3D extreme airobatic, a Ripmax Easy Street sports/airobatic and Silkywind high performance glider/thermal soarer (japanese model hence the unusual name), yesterday I caught a huge thermal and nearly lost it out of sight overhead, it was a real struggle to stay low enough, I was diving as fast as I dared without ripping the wings off and the lift was putting me back up as fast as I dived , model aircraft can be great fun but expensive when things go wrong and you smack into the ground at warp factor "oh my god!", these big trucks look more capable than the older buggies I used to race (electric), they looked offroad but you could get em stuck in the rockery, looks like that beast could go anywhere, ever thought of fitting a spycam and transmitter and driving it out of sight? could be fun.



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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 14:31
Oh maaaaan.... I'm such a sucker for RC toys. I've been trying for about 2 months not to buy an indoor helicopter and now just as I think I've gotten over it, I see this.

So, gimme the 411 Fallout - do you build these things yourself? Do they come in kits? How much cash are we talking? What kind of car is it that you have?

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Fallout
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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 17:13
@Me

I was always interested in planes too, but always had the fear of smashing em to pieces. I hear there are a lot of planes for novices these days with anti-dive technology and altitude measurements to make sure you dont nose dive into the ground, but I do like the convenience of the RC car (anywhere, anytime sorta thing). And yeah, this truck is tough. Push it as hard as you dare.

@Adr

haha mate, I always wanted a nitro when I was younger, so this is kinda like my mid-life crisis, except long before my mid-life. Ahh, whatever. It costs money, and now I can afford it, so I did it.

My truck is the Traxxas Revo, but heavily modified. They're considered one of the best if not the best 1/8th scale on the market. A close competetior is the HPI Savage, but the Revo is much more cat like (lower centre of gravity and wider wheel base) and much more advanced suspension (which as you can see is important). The savage generally comes with a slightly larger spec engine though.

These kits are all Ready2Run, so you pick em up, get some fuel, a fuel bottle, whatever batteries are needed, charge up all the electric gear and then you're outside straight off. They generally have a 2/3 hour break-in procedure where you get outside and run the engine in. It's so fundamental to get that right, as it's the difference in 10mph or so of speed, overheating and engine life. Break it in right, and you have a monster engine that'll run cool and last for a long time.

My truck cost me about £400 when I picked it up, with a deal pack that included a bit of fuel, fuel bottle, batteries for the transmitter, a battery for the EZ start (a little electric starter box which means you dont need a separate glow plug heater and pullstart kit), and a charger. These days I think you can get this same truck for about £350. There are bigger trucks out their with bigger engines that go a bit faster and are heavier etc. but the Revo is considered the best in its class and probably the best handling of all monster truck models.

Overall cost though ... *sharp in-take of breath* ... has been about £1500+ for me. I've upgraded the .15C/Inch engine to a .23C/Inch professional racing engine (£160). My shocks have been upgraded with plenty of titanium. I have upgraded arms, drive shafts, new gear setups, 4 bodyshells in total, different tyres/wheels for different conditions, air intake upgrades, a new 2.4GHz spread spectrum transmitter/receiver, the rollcage you see in the vid ... the list goes on. My mate bought one at the same time though and has hardly upgraded anything, so he's probably not spent more than £600 in total. Basically, you can spend as little or as much as you want, but mine is a proper monster now.

I took a snap earlier to show what kit I took out for that jaunt to Farley Mount. This is where all the cash goes and what you might end up with ...



In that I've got in field chargers, spare differentials, shocks, tools, fuel, wheels, temp guage, my old engine and pipe, clutches, gears etc etc. We were gonna go out to a much harsher site, so all the spares came along for in field repairs.

I can't recommend it enough, but you need to dedicate some time to it. If you pansy about in a carpark, then you can get away with learning the essentials, but when you start taking it out and jumping it and offroading it, things break. So there's a learning curve to understand the engine tuning, problem solving and diagnosis etc. but when you get the truck running well, like mine was yesterday, it's awesome.

If you seriously consider it mate, drop me a line and we can chat. Consider the Revo seriously though, as it's the best on the market in my opinion. Here're a few links if you're interested:

Traxxas Revo site
RC Hop Ups (Hundreds of Revo upgrades)

Pick one up, and we'll get some 3 way racing action going on.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 18:52
Oooookay... may well stick with my £30 indoor helicopter. I'm getting married in a year's time, and we're supposed to be saving money. Something tells me I will be missing a testicle if I blow our savings on an RC Toy.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 19:58
Man, sometimes it's worth a testicle.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 20:34
Always had an i/c powered rc car in the back of my mind for when I happen to find a bundle of money on the floor. It hasn't happened yet but I could start saving, my birthday's next month and then it aint far to Christmas. *plots a cunning plan*

Did you learn quite a lot about this before you made the purchase or did you learn as you went along? If there's any books or web pages that you think would help someone learn the basics I'd be mucho happio (had a look at the two in your second post.

Will download vid tomorrow when I get access to a broadband connected peasea.

I've got a plane in the garage (never got off the ground because I don't trust myself with it without proper tuition and servos have now been removed anyway). Is there anything from that which could be used in a car (glow start, glow plugs, fuel pump, big battery (used for powering fuel pump and starter 12volts I think) and a few litres of castor straight glow fuel).

Thanks in advance.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 20:50
Do you know where i can get cheapish petrol rc cars? (NOT ebay)

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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 20:51 Edited at: 7th Sep 2005 20:53
The good thing about Traxxas is their customer service and their package. I'd not had a nitro before I got my Revo but there was a fair amount of detail in the manual and DVD it came with to get you up and running. It's also one of the few kits that comes with a transmitter.

The background research I did was just learning to tune the nitro engine. That's the main technical challenge for a beginner to nitro as it takes some practice to get it right. Apart from that, I just spent time looking at review sites to find out which truck to buy. Everywhere I looked said "Revo" and all the reviews it was getting were good, so I think I made the right choice. As for the rest of the learning, I just learnt as I went along. The Traxxas forum is very helpful with speedy replies from lots of experienced members, plus the site has plenty of PDFs which breakdown the steps to do things like fix your transmission etc. so you should never really get completely stuck if you have any problems.

I'm not sure what you could salvage from your plane, and it also depends on what truck you get. The Revo comes with a hand held electric EZ start system, which means you dont need a glow starter or anything like that. If you got another truck, the glow starter might come in handy though. As for the plugs, it depends on their make, size and which engine you've got again. I find Traxxas, McCoy and RB plugs are the best for my truck.

I wouldn't suggest picking up a book as all the info you need can normally be found in the forums of whichever community you go for (hint hint traxxas! ) and generic articles on nitro engines are all over the net. This is quite a good guide though but there are plenty more

Hope that helps mate.

Edit: @Darkbasic MAD - I don't know much about Petrol RC mate, just nitro, but I think petrol is normally 1/6 - 1/5 scale cars and costs quite a lot more.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 20:58
Thanks for the info, I'll have a look around and see what happens.

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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 20:59
Hey! I was highly on RC some years ago. I had a 1/8 Serpent model. Look under, I'm on the 4th photo (the one on the left at 2nd place)

http://pistethermique.free.fr/v1/resultats/2002/rb_marseille/marseille0302.htm

Any other RC fans?

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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 22:56
heres some sites for the better manufacturers

http://www.graupner.de/englisch/index.asp
http://www.ripmax.com/
http://www.amerang-group.com/

and an enthusiast site for e-flight

http://www.ezonemag.com/

you can do everything from boats to jet aircraft (thats models with real jet engines in em), including gold plated JCB`s if thats what rocks your boat.



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Posted: 7th Sep 2005 23:38
Good god Fallout, you have a very expensive hobby.

Still that was an awsome video. Especially all the leaps and tree-bark climbing that thing did. Crazy!


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Posted: 8th Sep 2005 00:29
haha. Cheers dude. When I get a free weekend I'll be going to an even more mental site where I will get some crazy footage and definitely come back with the car in pieces.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2005 14:44
My stock Stadium Thunder drowned in the beach a few years back. I never tried running it again since then. My guess is the electronics have fried.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2005 15:41
I used to have Stadium Blitzer which was quite cool. I remember it was fairly quick and got left out in the rain. You might be lucky and it might still work. Servos don't like the wet, but the rest of it might be ok after a good airing. Give it a try.

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Do you know where i can get a cheap nitro car because i saw one on ebay once 50quid and it reached 70mph is that the sort of price range mate

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Posted: 8th Sep 2005 22:37 Edited at: 8th Sep 2005 22:39
No one use real RC competition cars?



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Posted: 8th Sep 2005 22:55
£50 is real cheap for a nitro car. Second hand or new, that's cheap, so the car is bound to be ropey and must be an on road model. For a new nitro offroad truggy, stadium truck or monster truck, you're looking at £200 really for a decent one, or maybe as little as £150 (that's the min though!). Second hand could be cheaper, but a second hand nitro engine is not a wise purchase.

@French GUI

Damn fast those on road cars, but I like the freedom of taking ya monster truck anywhere. Stuck in a carpark isn't really my kinda thing, but I suppose if you have a pro track nearby, they must be quite fun.

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Posted: 8th Sep 2005 23:13 Edited at: 8th Sep 2005 23:14
@fallout: Yes,it's reaaaally fast and impressive! Have you ever seen a 'official' race with these RC cars? With an average speed of 100Km/h (I don't know with Mph )in the fast line,it's stunning! But off-road RC cars are cool too!

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