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Geek Culture / Silver Backed DVD-r disks available to buy?

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Kangaroo2 BETA2
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Posted: 11th Sep 2005 21:16
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Hi there, I'm looking for inkjet printable dvd-r disks, but with a light silver back just like professionally pressed ones you buy in the shops.

All the dvd-rs I can find have purple, gold or a dark silver/bluey green backs I've been googling and found that supposedly such disks exist, but I can't find anywhere that sells them.

Before anyone comments I don't want them to release 'pirate' disks or whatever, they are for local independantly produced films, and I'd prefer them to look as professional as possible

Cheers, Sam

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JoelJ
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Posted: 11th Sep 2005 23:08
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don't you have to get the cds professionally pressed?


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Dazzag
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I've always found these guys pretty good. Nice and cheap, reliable media, and I think they have what you want (silver printable).

http://www.xcopyproducts.co.uk/acatalog/Blank-DVD-Minus-Media.html

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Kangaroo2 BETA2
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Posted: 13th Sep 2005 12:13
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Thanks Dazzag, unfo the silver printable DVDs on that site still have a purple back Oh well, looks like until silevr backed dvd-rs become more commonly available I'll have to stick to purple, or get lots of 100+ pressed! Thanks anyways

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Dazzag
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Posted: 13th Sep 2005 19:57
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Hmmm, just found this on one website:-

Quote: "Fake, or burned, DVDs will never be either silver or gold underneath - the process required for home burning requires a purple/pinkish type of dye which the silver/gold discs can't support. (This doesn't apply to CDs, which you can get with silver underside for home burning)."


Probably need proper DVD copying hardware then. Am sure I spotted a few in a catalogue at work. Tend to look like lots of DVD drives stuck together in an array.

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Considering they said this didn't apply to CDs (can get silver underside for home burning), then can't you use CD's instead? Or won't it all fit? Even using multiple CD's would probably work out a lot cheaper.

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Posted: 13th Sep 2005 21:54
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Thanks for the information

I did think of using CDS burned in DVD format, but would they then play in most standard DVD players? That might well be a solution for shorter videos...

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Quote: "but would they then play in most standard DVD players?"
No, I don't think so. Think is the way a CD is written using home CD-R hardware. Think I remember reading that the DVD player would need a different laser (2nd) to read the CDR because of the type of dye that is used on CDRs, and cannot be read by the red DVD laser. Some DVDs do have the 2 lasers though. But only some. Sorry thought you wanted it for a game, not a standard DVD player. Hell, some DVD players won't even play DVD+-Rs from home equipment.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 07:43
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you know, every DVD player i've used, allows you to use CDs/CDRs
even the oldest ones, i owuldnt worry


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Kangaroo2 BETA2
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 15:23
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thanks for both your inputs

I have to say so long as you burn dvd-rs as all region they will play on the vast majority of players, I've not found any that won't, even ps2s and xboxes will I haven't tried cds though, I'll experiment

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So what exactly is wrong with the purple-dyed back DVD's? They don't look especially professional, but if you OverBurn The disc, you can rid of the 'write band' effect that they seem to acquire after burning.

Quote: "I did think of using CDS burned in DVD format"

I don't believe its possible to do that, since the DVD format relies heavily on the size of the disc. Although you could do a search for Mini CD-based DVD's. They're pretty cool, and Nero 6 can burn them natively

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CD-Rs burned with video have played on every single DVD player I've tried them on. Just as long as you let the software handle the burning and compression of your video, your compatibilty should be fine.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 17:19
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David R, thanks, I'll look into those

Aluminium Pork, thanks, what software do you use to convert and burn the disks?

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Quote: "CD-Rs burned with video have played on every single DVD player I've tried them on"
Ok, try them on a few more then. My 5 year old Technics effort refused all my mates CD-R videos. Technics machine plays just about all DVDs I've thrown at it, and the CD-R videos play on all my other DVD players. Technics still plays DVD-Rs though.

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Quote: "I don't believe its possible to do that, since the DVD format relies heavily on the size of the disc."

not true, i've DONE it.

Quote: "Ok, try them on a few more then. "

Ok, both my brother and my friend's dad are those kind of guys who LOVE new technology and go out and buy whatever is new, like the DVD player when it first came out.
They both bought some of the first DVD players, and both of those handle home videos recorded on CDRs just fine, my mom's player (altho rather new) works just fine, my sister's DVD player works fine playing those CDRs, I've seen them run on my Aunt and my Grandma's DVD players.
I'll go try them on my friend's DVD player and PS2 and Xbox, then i'll get back to you.


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Jeku
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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 22:19
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Dazzag is correct-- go back 5 years and 9 out of 10 DVD players won't play them. I remember when I purchased my first DVD player on Boxing Day, 2000. I had to pay $50 EXTRA so it would play CD-Rs and CD-RWs.

Nowadays they all do, even Xbox. Not sure about PS2s, though.

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Posted: 14th Sep 2005 22:58
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Quote: "Nowadays they all do"

well, i believe it's nowadays so it wont be a problem


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