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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 02:36
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Okay just out of curiousity can you run more then one operating system on one computer and then switch back and forth. If so how?

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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 02:41
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Yes, you need a boot loader. Not sure how you'll get MacOS and Windows on the same machine though.

MacOS runs on PPC Processors (found oddly enough in Apple Macintosh computers)
Windows runs on x86-Based Processors (found in any high-street store)

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You'll have to emulate the crap out of Mac to get it to run on Windows (Bochs).

I use GRUB to boot Windows and Linux.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 03:21
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okay thanks but whats a "Grub" or a "boot loader"?

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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 03:26
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You can install MacOSX86 on a PC and dual-boot with Windows XP, and I would assume linux as well. Go searching for MaxOSX86, you'll find plenty of tutorials and torrents.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 03:49
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Quote: "okay thanks but whats a "Grub" or a "boot loader"?"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_loader

Most modern Linux based operating systems come with a boot loader that automatically installs (and detects Windows if you have it installed).

Some of the easier distros are: Fedora Core, SuSE, Mandriva and Ubuntu.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 04:01
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I have windows xp right now so basically your saying that if I download linux then I'll be able to use windows xp still but will be able to access linux if I wanted to?

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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 04:15 Edited at: 1st Oct 2005 09:32
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Yes, you can do that. It's what most people who use Linux do, especially if they are a 'gamer'.

Just be careful, if you plan to install Linux onto the same HDD as Windows, make sure there is enough free space. Some Linux installers have the ability to resize Windows partitions, but offer no guarantees! (i.e: BACKUP!).

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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 04:32
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Quote: "You can install MacOSX86 on a PC and dual-boot with Windows XP, and I would assume linux as well. Go searching for MaxOSX86, you'll find plenty of tutorials and torrents."


which is ILLEGAL, and pointless if you do happen to get the rare one which is real. As MacOSX86 doesn't run anything except the test programs.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 06:25
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Quote: "which is ILLEGAL"

and I care why?

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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 11:01
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Yes you can get all three on a system....


1. Get a Mac with a big hard drive
2. Buy windows XP and Linux
3. Partition your hard drive in 3 (can you partition to 3, i dunno or have 3 hard drives)
4. One part install Linux, one leave as mac the other as windows.

My brothers been doing this sort of thing with his i-book, once he had mac and linux, the other time he had mac and windows

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you dont go to the slammer because you broke the law, you go to jail because you got caught.

you dont beat the system. the system beats you.
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You are very wise, greed, and you p1r4ating skizllzz are awesome.

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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 21:38
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okay people can someone give me an solution to my question that isn't illegal.....

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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 22:20 Edited at: 1st Oct 2005 22:20
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Forget Mac OS, and just download Fedora Core 4, Best linux distro imho...

Im sure someone will say im wrong... Which is why its my opinion !

But yeah, It also includes over 23 Dev Tools.


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Posted: 1st Oct 2005 22:24
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I should forget trying to run mac os on a pc since it isn`t that useful atm, as for Linux, either download a live cd, or download Suse Linux, imo that is the simplest to use and most complete Linux, the others being limited in some way, download 9.2 rather than 9.3 since 9.3 is problematic atm, defragment your windows drive before you start and then set your BIOS to boot from the CD drive if it does not already, then just insert the cd, reboot and accept the default installation, it will take some space off windows and install the bootloader and linux to this space, then you can try it out, if you then want to remove it you will need your windows install disk, otherwise you will be stuck with the bootloader, so make sure that is available before you start.



why do they say Aliens are gonna be friendly?, surely the agressive ones wipe out the peaceloving ones, so all you have left out there are crazed flesh eating interstellar monsters.
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2005 14:54
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if you don't want to mess about with your partitions - which can go seriously wrong - you could always by vmware workstation, or if you are broke, virtual pc as they both allow you to run multiple operating systems on a pc with out having to reboot your computer

i'm not sure if you can get macos runing on an x86 as the dev machines at apple aren't normal x86 comps - they are modified so that to get it working it on a proper x86 it would take a lot of hacking to do it


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Posted: 2nd Oct 2005 15:36
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Quote: " okay people can someone give me an solution to my question that isn't illegal....."


Quote: "
1. Get a Mac with a big hard drive
2. Buy windows XP and Linux
3. Partition your hard drive in 3 (can you partition to 3, i dunno or have 3 hard drives)
4. One part install Linux, one leave as mac the other as windows."


Perfectly legal

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you don`t have to buy Linux, just download it, and yes, it`s totaly legal to do so.



why do they say Aliens are gonna be friendly?, surely the agressive ones wipe out the peaceloving ones, so all you have left out there are crazed flesh eating interstellar monsters.
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2005 16:32
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Don't try and install multiple versions of Windows on the same PC, XP will eventually kill the other version. They say it doesn't, but no matter what method I use, it always happens! I have run Linux Fedora core 3 & XP on the same hdd just partitionned before though and its worked fine.

Um am I missing something here, can you run Windows XP on a MAC ?!?!?

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Posted: 2nd Oct 2005 17:15
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possibly, but why would you want to

you dont beat the system. the system beats you.
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2005 17:16 Edited at: 2nd Oct 2005 17:16
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you're trying to make your system BETTER

you dont beat the system. the system beats you.
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Posted: 2nd Oct 2005 17:48
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Quote: "Um am I missing something here, can you run Windows XP on a MAC ?!?!?"


You can run Windows XP Embedded on a Macintosh.
Currently the free version supports G4 Mac (and oddly GameCube)

Don't expect to run any software that's not specifically written for it though.

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Quote: " (and oddly GameCube)"

Kewl, not to bw a pain in the but, but how, not that I wanna ruin it with Windows, just curiosity

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