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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 13:03 Edited at: 8th Oct 2005 13:04
nasty new trojan about that targets the PSP, turns it into a useless brick.....

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8116



oh! I realy like the feature that forces me to put the post header in lower case ....NOT!

why do they say Aliens are gonna be friendly?, surely the agressive ones wipe out the peaceloving ones, so all you have left out there are crazed flesh eating interstellar monsters.
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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 15:42
How much you want to bet that Sony hires programmers to make a several viruses for the PSP and then come out with a antivirus program that you have buy for it.

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 15:42
Just Sony trying to get back at the hackers.


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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 16:20 Edited at: 8th Oct 2005 16:21
Quote: " nasty new trojan about that targets the PSP, turns it into a useless brick....."

My dear boy, there is no such thing as a useless brick. Bricks are very useful indeed.

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 16:37
But only if you have use for a brick...

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 16:45
It's not all bad. I can imagine some hardcore electronics geeks would have a use for dead PSPs and its innards.

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 19:07
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Quote: "But only if you have use for a brick..."


Why not change your name back to Bouncy Brick ?

@All

This is a good reason not to buy a psp

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 19:22
lol, no, this shows how retarded some people can be... It was probably named something like this "PSPHaxv2.0FIRMWARE_217288.zip.exe"

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Dont download firmware that is about 20kb... or 43kb...


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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 19:26
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This is a good reason not to buy a psp
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No, this is a reasoon to just...um not upgrade your PSP, then you wont have to downgrade, or just do as DBAlex said, dont download firmware thats very small, the updates alone are 16-17 Mb's.

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 19:27
very true o look there goes my psp boom!!!

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 19:34
Its a shame that there are pricks around that do this, it just wastes everyones time and doesn't achieve anything.

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 19:45
Quote: "Its a shame that there are pricks around that do this, it just wastes everyones time and doesn't achieve anything."


Yeah it's put me off of buying one (At the moment)

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 20:28
*Graps Darkbasic MAD and throws him outta the window*

Enough already with the quotes

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 21:35
*sighs*..

I've been following the downgrading/upgrading.. Homebrew/Apps/Emulators and Roms for psp usage.

As far as this being a virus.. Well, i suppose in a sense.. I think how they're making it appear and how most of you are probably taking it is wrong.

It's a file, that you must first put on your psp and run. You can not simply get this thing from using your psp on the browser. All this says to me is what i've been telling myself about downloading computer software my whole life. Only download from TRUSTED places.



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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 21:52
like tgc

@Xppro user

What was that about?

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 21:59
Quote: "Sony has in the past stated that such applications are an “interesting” idea, suggesting that such functionality *could* be officially sanctioned in a later update"


I hope this happenes soon.

http://www.totalvideogames.com/news/PSP_Ver_2.0_Exploit_Revealed_8553_0_15.htm

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 22:36
I've decided to buy a GBA SP. I see no point in shelling out $200+ on the new systems and games. Games are like $50. I don't want to pay $50 for a game that I'll be playing for a 20 min time killer on a train.

(Ok, I'm just broke. Sue me.)


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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 22:40
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When does a cat have money?

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 22:43
Megaton - you're not alone, I have no intention of ever looking at a PSP, let alone buying one. I don't need a portable Playstation, I've got the real thing, and Sony have no clue about making (or licensing) addictive handheld games. I can't see them ever releasing something as utterly divine as Advanced Wars. Definitely for those who enjoy style more than substance.

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 22:51
You're right Rich, but there's something to be said about playing homebrew games on an incredible screen such as the PSP. Old games like, Super Mario World or even home-made games like Cubez(Great game), or pretty much any and every rom for almost any station makes it a very tempting bargain.



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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 23:03 Edited at: 8th Oct 2005 23:08
Quote: "there's something to be said about playing homebrew games on an incredible screen such as the PSP. Old games like, Super Mario World or even home-made games like Cubez"


Yes you're right. It is amazing playing those wonderous high-res ROMS on a screen such as a PSP.




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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 23:11
rich didn't want to see that

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Posted: 8th Oct 2005 23:54 Edited at: 9th Oct 2005 00:01
@Megaton Cat
ROFL, great pic.

I got a GBA SP when the DS was nearing release, don't ask me why, I could've waited a week and got a ds but I didn't. As soon as I took my beautiful zelda limited edition sp out of the box though I knew I'd made a great choice. There's one dead pixel but when the rest of the console looks so uber shexay that's nothing to worry about.

Ofcourse me being me, I've lost it (nothing major, just put it down somewhere in the house and can't remember where) but once I find it again I'm gonna start finding some top notch puzzle games to play on it.

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Posted: 9th Oct 2005 02:12 Edited at: 9th Oct 2005 02:24
Well Megaton, I'm going to believe your being sarcastic, as that image is rather hard to distinguish the amount of detail of the rom.

The roms i've had a chance to see full screen were perfect color/resolution roms, and the homemade games are quite nice looking aswell, the one you're showing only seems to be part of the screen aswell.

It's also nice having indie developpers be able to code their own games for it(which is pretty much my point in this conversation)


[EDIT]

New news, check the net if you do not believe me for whatever reason..

WARNING - DS fake loader bricks DS

DarkFader has released a fake DS ROM that claims to be a Hentai viewer or ROM loader but is in actual fact a program that will flash part of your firmware rendering your DS useless. It is apparently possible to fix the DS if you have FlashMe but otherwise you will be left with a brick. UPDATE: To fix if you have FlashMe hold A+B+SELECT+START when switching on the DS, you can then run the original FlashMe updater to restore the DS. There are also reports that it will erase G6, M3, gbamp and SuperCard firmware as well as deleting anything found on the CompactFlash card in the gbamp.



The file was originally released as taihen.zip (.nds size 548,673 bytes) which is an Hentai viewer and then as r0mloader.zip (.nds size 151,361 bytes) which claims to be a ROM loader. At the moment there is no way to be absolutely sure if a ROM is legit so please be VERY careful before trying any new homebrew.



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Posted: 9th Oct 2005 03:49
Kinda serves 'em right for trying to watch cartoon prawn.

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Posted: 9th Oct 2005 04:47
Quote: " Well Megaton, I'm going to believe your being sarcastic"


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Posted: 9th Oct 2005 16:09
For playing emulation style stuff I live and die by my GP32, I don't need a PSP for that as well. I appreciate they look gorgeous, but the games won't warrant the price imho.

Mind you - they're easily hacked I guess

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Posted: 9th Oct 2005 16:45
yeah i waiting until the sales now to get one

Platformer soon to be wip you'll like it
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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 02:05
Nintendo just can't stand the competition

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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 02:50
Quote: "Nintendo just can't stand the competition "


According to thier TGS Report they're leading the market 4:1 Worldwide in Sales DSSP, that isn't including the GBA sales that are still out-selling both.

Somehow I doubt Nintendo are even close to being worried.

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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 05:17 Edited at: 11th Oct 2005 05:20
After the PS3 comes out Nintendo will be on their knees :p
With the controller for the Nintendo Revolution, Nintendo will be doomed!
All the kiddies are buying the Nintendo DS rather than the PSP because they have the Super Mario series. I bought one but I was rather disapointed with it
Wasted my $150(?) on the DS

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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 05:43
go xbox! it's like the only good non-japanese console.

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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 05:47 Edited at: 11th Oct 2005 05:50
Quote: "All the kiddies are buying the Nintendo DS rather than the PSP because they have the Super Mario series. I bought one but I was rather disapointed with it "


*BUZZZZ EIIIIN WRONG.*

You can easily play super mario bros and most nintendo/super nintendo etc games on the PSP.

The reason a lot of people buy the DS is because it's innovative, the dual screen plus touchpad gameplay is something new and refreshing. This applies to the Nintendo Revolution aswell, while the first glance makes it seem like a completely idiotic idea, Nintendo is doing what they've always done.. Re-inventing the way games are played.

Dont get me wrong though, i love my PSP, but despite the games i have.. I always come back to playing super mario bro's, squarez, Spiderman & Venom Maximum carnage, bust-a-move etc on my PSP.. For me, the PSP works better as a -20 minute- gameplay machine.

I think the PSP would be doing much better if game developpers started developping games in that way, designed for quicky sessions.



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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 06:56
Quote: "After the PS3 comes out Nintendo will be on their knees :p "

Nintendo knows what they're doing. Nintendo isn't resorting to being innovative just because they're not on top anymore; Nintendo has always been advancing the gaming industry. Who built the first 3d platormer? Nintendo. Mario 64 not only proved that platformers could be converted into 3d, but also that they could be better in 3d. Nintendo actually came up with the idea of a handheld game system that you could play multiple games on. Kart racers are Nintendo, etc.

Nintendo is one of the few not trying to advance games in some graphic way or another, and it is working. From its release date in the US, the DS was sold out for month in every single store. I got one on the first day in the morning at a toy r us because everywhere else was sold out, and they only had six. Nintendo actually had to increase the number of DS systems they shipped by 50% and they still didn't have enough for all the people that wanted them. The psp, on the other hand, only sold out in story like EB games and such, and that was all pre-order. In other stores like Wal-mart and toys r us, they were lucky to sell one the entire day. The psp is a great system, but it's expensive, has little battery life, and not nearly as durable as the DS. Really all the psp has that's new to handheld gaming is massive screen and the uber graphics. If you've played ds games that actually use the touch screen well, then you know why it's so good. I have the Kirby DS game, and it's insanly fun. And while you may not think of the heads up display and map and such being moved down to the bottom screen as a big advantage, it is. And the new ideas that the DS games of tomorrow are showing are amazing.

Don't get me wrong, I've seen the x-box 360 and the ps3 and they're amazing (the new sonic game for the ps3 was... wow). But Nintendo knows what they're doing.

If you look at how much negative response the DS got before being released, you'd be amazed that it's as successful as it is. People were making fun of the DS innovations, and saying that the psp would blow it away. Well, it obviously didn't. I'm seeing the same thing for the revolution, so I'm going to hold off until all three systems are released. The x-box 360 and the ps3 are powerhouses, but eventually the pc is going to catch up, and I don't think it will take that long. The revolution offers something unique that is going to re-define simulator, and being from Nintendo, it's going to be the best put together of all the next gens.

I’m not a Nintendo fan-boy, I in fact do most of my gaming on the pc now a days. I’m just sick of graphics being the main point of games. I mean, most of the games that are coming out for next gen systems and today’s systems only have graphical updates on the next gens!

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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 08:44
Quote: " go xbox! it's like the only good non-japanese console."


Um, isn't it the only non-japanese console!?

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The sooner someone cracks the DS' Wi-Fi protocol the better...

That way, I could upload homebrew stuff wirelessly from my 802.11g card

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why not just buy a laptop instead,costs a bit more but does a helluva lot more, i dont see the point in these little game gizmos,unless i made one then id want everyone to buy it.
i think its amazing really,they bring sothing out,shove it in peoples faces and thats it.....must have.
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Quote: "why not just buy a laptop instead,costs a bit more but does a helluva lot more, i dont see the point in these little game gizmos,unless i made one then id want everyone to buy it.
i think its amazing really,they bring sothing out,shove it in peoples faces and thats it.....must have."

My main computer is a lap top. It's just a really really fast one. No, handheld systems are far more portable than laptops, start up almost instantly, and have games that are designed so you can play them in ten minute to five hour burst if you want to. The ds has a simple sleep feature, that activates when you fold it up, and you can stuff it in you pocket for 24 hours and then come back and play it for a few more hours sometimes.
But the big thing is cost, and age range. Nintendo targets all age ranges, but it focuses on kid friendly games. No sane parent would trust their ten year old kid with a laptop to bring to school. A ds costs $120, and a sp costs $70. They're both built to be handled, and you can drop them on cement floors, spill water on them, and smash them around and they should still work fine. An average laptop costs around $1000, and that’s the low end of the spectrum. And you wont just pull it out on a long car ride if your the passenger. Of course laptops are better, and if you've got the money for a good one (somewhere between $2000 & $4000), There should be no question in which to get.

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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 02:38
Quote: "Um, isn't it the only non-japanese console!?"


Pretty much yup.
I'm still waiting for the CD32 to make it's move... Amiga are just biding thier time. hehe

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The CD32? Sweet, I remember those. It was a toss-up between CD-i, CD-32, and 3DO IIRC. 3DO won that race-- but then it died a few years later just as fast.

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Quote: "An average laptop costs around $1000"

Actually the prices have dropped dramatically.

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