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Geek Culture / this is getting beyond a joke

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Me!
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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 11:23
I have over 30 games installed on my PC, they all run just fine, no problems, apart from one, you might know which one I am going to whinge about, it`s steam powered, it`s HALF LIFE 2

now this game is doing it`s dammedest to wind me up, first I "lost" the reset code (actualy they messed up and thought my id was in use) so that after reinstalling windows I couldn`t run it, after MUCH pestering I finaly got the steam password reset, so it does its normal 15 minutes of downloading updates before running, and .... it crashes, right into a reboot.

and thats it, I tried searching and applying some fixes off the net, but it will not run, worse, it gives "windows has recovered from a serious system error" messages and spends several minutes thrashing the hardrive when it reboots, any attempt to run HL2 just reboots the PC, according to the crash report the problem is with the Nvidia driver, an "unknown error", but I have the latest drivers, I just downloaded em again and installed em again.

I am seriously getting p****d off with Valve, Halflife2 was running fine on this PC before I reinstalled, the whole system is now fully updated and running the latest Directx etc, everything else is running just fine....apart from that moronic steam powered garbage called HalfLife 2, apparently (from chat on other forums) they are downloading an "update" via steam that has problems with Nvidia drivers, so why don`t they stop downloading it?

I think that anyone here who goes into commercial writing should remember the problems some people are getting with steam and avoid those mistakes, I am realy annoyed, after not being able to play it for two months while support worked out that I did indeed own a legal copy of HalfLife 2 ... I now find out I can`t play HalfLife2 because their last update screws my PC up

I hate steam, I hate the authors, I hate valve, I hate them so much I hope a giant comet slams into their head office, I HATE STEAM! , it is the sole source of my HalfLife misery...death to steam <gibbers and sinks twitching under desk> .



£350 worth of books later and I still can`t make any sense of C++, BASIC forever
Van B
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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 11:28
I had a problem with Steam, I hate it too, but I got around my problem.

All I had to do was replace my motherboard and processor and everything was just peachy . It's a shame, because HL2 is worth playing through, and CS:Source rocks. But as for actually getting Steam to behave when it's like that - dude you have my sympathy.


Van-B

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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 11:59
Might be worth posting on their forums about it.

I presume you do have the latest video & sound drivers...

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Fallout
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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 12:13
Even drivers can be to blame sometimes. With my new GPU, I found the second time I got the latest NVidia drivers, they causes Windows Media Player and 4 of my games to stop working. I rolled back the drivers and all was kushti. A few weeks later I got the newest set of drivers (no further updated) and everything was fine again.

Just making the point that NVidia aren't perfect either, and sometimes cause a few problems themselves.

Megaton Cat
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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 16:36
I hate Steam everyday of the week. It's buggy, it needs constant non-stop updates, and it simply wastes time.


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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 16:54
Did Valve fix the slowdown problem ?

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Raven
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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 17:16
Quote: "Just making the point that NVidia aren't perfect either, and sometimes cause a few problems themselves."


One Windows Driver Programmer and Beta testing consists of running it on a few local PCs before sending it off to Microsoft to WHQL.

Personally I think it's a bloody miricle it's as stable and updated as often as it is. But your right people aren't infaliable.

Can't say I've had any major issues with Steam itself. Some minor ones with Half-Life 2, and Counter-Strike. (who remembers the play for 20minutes and then watch it crash to desktop bug DoD currently has that actually)

I'd say roll-back your drivers, you don't need the most current just to play games. Just use what works.

dark coder
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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 17:55
ive had no problem with steam well since i got hl2 and cs:s i havent, although in there latest update objects start hiding like 5m from the player so it makes me feel like im cheating


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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 18:07
I know I keep posting this, and I don't mean to spam but steam sucks donkey b@lls. End of. Just buy the DVD version of the game and patch it so it won't need steam. Steam is evil and I have no idea how Valve have the cheek to force people to use it.

Me!
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Posted: 11th Oct 2005 20:47 Edited at: 11th Oct 2005 20:49
I have the DVD version, but I don`t care to download the patch to disable steam since the websites that carry that information/patch are not in my safe hex guide to the net (if you know what I mean), steam is annoying, I finaly got the problem solved (about 30 mins ago) by downloading the Nvidia beta intended for Black and White 2, seems like Valve didn`t check compatability with existing drivers properly, after all, the Nvidia driver is older than this problematic patch they released via steam, I spent ages trying to find a fix, searched the whole net and the steam forums, searched the Nvidia problem solver etc, then finaly found a throw away comment in an unrelated thread on the steam forums that the Nvidia beta driver solved it and a link, so now alls good, (but steam still sucks )



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Quote: "ive had no problem with steam well since i got hl2 and cs:s i havent, although in there latest update objects start hiding like 5m from the player "

you obviously have a much looser definition of "no problem" than I do

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