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Resident Evil 4 fanboy
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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 01:06
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christmas time is heading near (I know its early octobor so bear with me) I am looking for a graphics card, but since I want the X-box 360 I want a cheap but good graphics card for this sicking PC! Please someone recommend some please! A card that will be able to power the Sims 2( I miss it so much!)

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Jimmy
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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 01:13
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I like the GeForce 6600GT for $150.


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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 03:48
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A price range would really help. A cheap card for me is heaven for others

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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 04:26 Edited at: 12th Oct 2005 04:27
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PNY Verto GeForce FX 5500 128MB DDR AGP Graphics Card
is this good?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7049785&type=product&id=1108124982738

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Raven
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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 05:05
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No, the 5500 is a slightly better 5200.
You really want something with more kick.

I'd strongly suggest budget wise.

ATi 9800 XT
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NVIDIA 6200

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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 07:38
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I love my Radeon 9800 pro

I can play all the good games with it, and it's not that bad of a price

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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 12:27
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The ATi X600 pro is realy good.


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Lukas W
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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 15:38 Edited at: 12th Oct 2005 15:40
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class 1 cards: 300-700$
geforce 7800 GT
geforce 6800 Ultra
radeon x850 XT

class 2 cards: 100-300$
geforce 6600GT
radeon 9800 Pro

class 3 cards: 50-100$
geforce 6200
radeon 9600

but people like me use Geforce 4 MX

useless cards: priceless
geforce 4 MX
geforce 3
geforce 2 MX
radeon 9250 and <

edit,
i know nothing about graphics cards. but i think this list may teach you all that i know.

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dark coder
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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 15:55
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just get the card with either the highest numbers or the more x`s and z`s on either size its like scrabble


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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 15:56 Edited at: 12th Oct 2005 15:58
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Quote: "The ATi X600 pro is realy good."


So that's why ATI replaced it within a month with the X700.

Quote: "geforce 3"


Deserves to be Budget, and replaced with FX 5200.
The GeForce 3/4Ti are actually oddly powerful cards considering.

The FX-Series on the whole was a mistake, but this said.. the FX 5700 Ultra and 5800XT both budget now are fairly good value and performance. Although still work the 6-Series instead.

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Lukas W
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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 15:57
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lol @ raven's comment

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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 19:07
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these are able to power the sims 2, doom 3, or half life 2?

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Dazzag
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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 19:17
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Quote: "just get the card with either the highest numbers or the more x`s and z`s on either size its like scrabble"

Although the new ATI X1K series (X1300, X1600, X1800) seems a bit in-adequate in the number department.

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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 21:02
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Quote: "Although the new ATI X1K series (X1300, X1600, X1800) seems a bit in-adequate in the number department."


Only the X1800 is worth paying for.
The X1300 and X1600 can barely keep up with thier 6-Series counterparts... let alone when NVIDIA release thier 7-Series.

They also don't particularly show that much of a speed difference between the X1800 XT and 7800 GTX (the 7800 GT just makes the X1800 XL look silly)

although I suppose it is a step in the right direction, with a new Core and Shader 3.0 support. Be interesting to see how that fairs when Shader 3 games start comming out.

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Posted: 12th Oct 2005 22:01 Edited at: 12th Oct 2005 22:02
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I have a Gateway(GOD I HATE IT!) and the last time I installed a memory upgard it turned to mush! So before I put this on my list, how do you install it! Can you provide site that tell you how!
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Posted: 13th Oct 2005 00:51
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this person said this about the Radon 9600 do you agree?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000815HTA/103-1898503-9555819?v=glance&n=172282&n=507846&s=electronics&v=glance
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Lukas W
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Posted: 13th Oct 2005 12:12
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im getting me a GeForce 6600GT if i add 1k5 i get a 6800GT but i dont need that power think of what you need your card to do. i need one that handle SM3.0 and infact one that have a SMx.x so i can use dbpro with shaders i also want to play doom3 and halflife 2 whitout it hacking and i want some nice water effects in Guildwars and morrowind.
thats why im getting the 6600GT, and its better than the 6600

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Posted: 13th Oct 2005 23:25
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seriously, does anyone has any experience installing a graphics card? if so how?
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Posted: 14th Oct 2005 00:42
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Yes. Quite a few over the years. Normally a good idea to uninstall current drivers. Open up the PC (earth yourself first). Pull out the card (should be obvious, although some mobos have little kwirks for keeping the card in the board, so *really* look at it before ripping it out (don't want to bust anything, and this goes for putting the new one in - pref use a torch). Plug the new one in (plus any power connectors that might be needed - you may need a few Y-Connectors to split off other power cables if you have none left). Shove it all back together (cases differ massively - but most are a b***h to get the panel back on). Turn on and windows (better as windows gets newer - ie. XP is the best) should sort out all drivers etc to get at least the monitor working. Install the drivers for the new card, reboot (most likely), and all should be fine.

Never had a problem with graphics cards. I *have* however bust a few things by snapping off pins, or breaking bits. Mainly because I wasn't really looking, and just trying to force things in. Most important rule is that mobos are not all the same, so examine it carefully (and the manual) first. And use a torch if in doubt.

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Posted: 14th Oct 2005 01:27
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Quote: "class 1 cards: 300-700$
geforce 7800 GT
geforce 6800 Ultra
radeon x850 XT"


you forgot my card: Geforce 6800GT

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Lukas W
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Posted: 14th Oct 2005 17:56
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excwept ULTRA beats GT as easy as that.

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Posted: 14th Oct 2005 19:56
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A 9700pro can be picked up for very little on ebay (15-40quid) - and they are amazingly good cards for your price range (not too longf ago they were the best ATI made full stop) - they will do anything you want, run 99% of games VERY nicely Imho its not worth paying the xtra for 9800pro...

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Posted: 14th Oct 2005 22:22
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Quote: "Install the drivers for the new card, reboot (most likely), and all should be fine."


how do I install the driver Dazzag?
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Either it will be on a CD that came with the card (should pop up with option to install drivers), or goto the website for your card manufacturer, and locate it's driver page. Also find the right driver for your card. Normally one driver download covers a list of cards. Once downloaded then run the driver like a normal program. Just follow the default settings and everything should be ok (after a restart normally).

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Posted: 15th Oct 2005 01:11 Edited at: 15th Oct 2005 04:42
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If I known that I wounld'nt had this problem! Thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 no im not being sarastic !
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Eh?

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oooh, Im in Class 1 cards nv 6800 Ultra PCI-E


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Whatever card you are looking for search for it on http://www.shopper.com You'll get the cheapest prices and a rating on that site. Great place to go to for electronics.

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Quote: "oooh, Im in Class 1 cards nv 6800 Ultra PCI-E"
*According* to the list above. Shouldn't "Class 1" be the best? If we take the best meaning the best from each main company then that leaves us with the 7800GT (or Ultra which is bound to come out within days of the X1800) and the X850XT (until any day now the X1800 comes out).

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X1800 was release 2weeks ago. Typically ATI had no stock for anyone who hadn't already ordered (Registered Developers, mainly X-Box 360)

Public release of the cards were last week, but not sure when the hell the UK will ever get them.

This said, in speed tests; nothing has been able to out-perform the 7800 GTX from XFX. Kinda something to make you proud about the only British card on the market.

These new cards are really a class of thier own... top-end anyways.
The X1600 and X1300 can't even keep up with thier equivilant Geforce 6-Series.

Quite clear to see this new VPU design from ATi only really performs reasonably with more pipelines. Although with more pipelines the changes of bad cards increases exponencially... hense why we don't see even a 24-Pipeline X1800 despite ATI claiming a year ago they were going to be going to 48-pipelines with thier next card.

I'm still waiting for the remaining Geforce 7-Series cards to hit the market. Rumour is that the other cards in the series are likely to see multi-core..

who really cares though... the X700 and 6600 are the only reasonably affordable cards. Leave the rest to people with more money than sense who must always have the best on the market.

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Posted: 15th Oct 2005 16:48
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Dazzag, as i said i know nothing about gfx cards

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Posted: 15th Oct 2005 23:45
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I think I want this
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=6832751&productCategoryId=cat01151&type=product&cmp=++&id=1093468058401
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this is better, and cheaper
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7212688&type=product&productCategoryId=cat01151&id=1113954027280
AGP 8x by the way.

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Radeons are the best for dx9 i got mine for £40 new and it's 128mb 9250 pro

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Posted: 16th Oct 2005 16:24 Edited at: 16th Oct 2005 16:29
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here's a question Lukas W, will this add memory, also will this power sims 2 with any hiccups?
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Posted: 16th Oct 2005 19:43
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if you want to run TheSims 2... go with Lukas' suggestion.
Trust me the GeForce FX 5200, 5500, 5600 and Radeon 9000, 9200, 9550 just won't run it quick enough.

They don't have the fillrate and/or polygon capabilities.
In-fact the GeForce 3, Radeon 8500 and GeForce 4 Ti will out-perform all of those cards without breaking a sweat.

The cards you want to buy really are going to be:
Radeon 9600, 9800, X700, 6200 or 6600

Try to stick away from the SE, XL, LE, etc. versions of the Cards. I'd also strongly suggest Ultra, GT, Pro, or XT versions of the cards.

Oh and for the love of god stick away from HyperMemory or TurboCache versions.

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 03:59
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I just found out today that the memory I had wasn't compatiable with my Gateway computer. I thank everyone for the help. I look up cards on the gateway site. For anyone who has a gateway computer here's the site
http://accessories.gateway.com/AccessoryStore/PC+Accessories_316441/default.htm?seg=hm&clv=TB
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