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Zotoaster
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 02:45
I just got this program today called stylebuilder at [href]www.themexp.org[/href] for free, it lets you change around all the pictures on windows to make your own styles. Here's a style that I'm working on.



It rocks, just thought I should let you guys know about it


Raven
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 02:49
Should I run a pool on who the first one to make an obnoxious comment will be.

I think I should point out, that most people who have wanted to change thier themes at some point or another know of this product.
Also note there is a SEARCH button at the bottom for the typically once every 3months "Post your Desktop" post.

Zotoaster
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 03:01
hmmm, somehow i thought this would attract trouble


Ace Of Spades
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 03:11 Edited at: 17th Oct 2005 03:11
kind of outdated buddy, but still a decent program I guess.

Quote: " hmmm, somehow i thought this would attract trouble"


If that is your first thought, don't post.

You know you want it Straight-Up
Raven
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 03:24
Ace Of Spades takes the pool... looks like someone just earnt themselves a dollar

not bad with 10:1 odds

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 07:13
thats one ugly color scheme


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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 07:25
Quote: "If that is your first thought, don't post."

but you're not pretending to be a mod in any way...

Quote: " kind of outdated buddy, but still a decent program I guess."

outdated how?
if it works for XP, it really isn't outdated since XP is still the newest Windows OS

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 07:35
While most programmers are at different levels of capacity, the angst grows with frustrated programmers who waist time trying to comment on every post made.

an hour waisted on the forums is another one lost from your project.

If no-one gives your an answer to a question you have asked, consider:- Is your question clear.- Did you ask nicely.- Are you showing any effort to solve the problem yourself 
Raven
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 08:30
you have to take breaks and have something to amuse yourself...
games take too long to get in to, seeing what stupidity some of the forum members are up to is pretty amusing.

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 10:21
Isn't this just another WindowsBlinds clone? If so (and if that is considered a good theme), then it looks a lot worse than what Blinds was doing years ago in 98.

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Raven
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 10:41
WinBlinds replaces Shell32.dll, basically replacing the entire Windows UI.

StyleXP mearly replaces the UXTheme.dll to allow Un-Registered .mstheme's to be used by Windows NT 5's own Appearance System.

Difference being WinBlinds will often screw up, and cause issues. StyleXP doesn't.

Zotoaster
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 12:18
Quote: "stupidity"


stupidity? Ok, maybe I've never heard of this program before all of your guys, and neither did I know that you guys heard of it. So don't call me stupid for trying to be nice


Raven
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 12:25
who said the comment was aimed at you?

Zotoaster
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 12:38
well if it wasnt aimed at me then don't post it in my thread.


Raven
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 14:00
that comment alone, warrents mine.

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 15:33
Quote: " WinBlinds replaces Shell32.dll"

Erm, shell32.dll ?


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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 15:48
@Zotoaster
I didn't know about this, so thanks.


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John Y
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 16:11
I doubt WindowBlinds replaces any dll's as you can activate/de-activate it without restarting.

I would say it works like any other skinning application, just drawing onto the components.

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 16:13
Where is the Free version anyway, all I could find was a free trial version, and I don't bother with those, because the last one I tried removed my theme after about a month.

Lukas W
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 16:16
has anyone tried the Crystal XP Shell?
i installed it and it was so great.
but then i wanted to switch back to the original theme, but it asked me to insert my WinXP CD to reinstall the original theme but it sais the files can not be found. that sux. so im using windows original XP theme with some elements from crystal xp...

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 16:38
Quote: "I doubt WindowBlinds replaces any dll's as you can activate/de-activate it without restarting.

I would say it works like any other skinning application, just drawing onto the components"


There are actually only a handful of DLLs that Windows *must* reboot with. It is quite easy to swap between a number of them, the reload them in memory (until reloaded they remain using the old one).

Shell is one of these DLL, that you can happily swap, reload and presto different system metrics. It's how Microsoft themselves do it, you will find one in each of the msthemes.

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 16:50
Taken from http://www.stardock.com/products/windowblinds/wb3/wb3_guide_final.htm

Quote: "Windows XP allows users to choose between two different looks - Windows XP style and Windows Classic. Windows XP style has a large blue title bar that is rounded on the corners. The classic style looks like previous versions of Windows. Users can pick between 3 color schemes for Windows XP (blue, green and silver). To do this, Microsoft had to develop a set of APIs (also called a "skinning engine") to allow its visual style format (.msstyles) to change the GUI. Stardock made WindowBlinds when running on Windows XP embrace these APIs and then extend them to be faster, more featured, and more flexible.

So how does this work? On Windows XP, Microsoft's skinning engine uses a system hook to intercept paint calls to the title bar. This is done at a very low level so the overhead in doing this is negligible. When a program attempts to paint its title bars, Microsoft's hook intercepts the call and re-directs it to a DLL called uxtheme.dll. WindowBlinds instead re-directs it to its optimized wblind.dll instead which then uses uxtheme.dll or its own functions to handle painting (WindowBlinds can thus pick and choose between more APIs so it picks the fastest and most compatible APIs between the two).

Additionally, Microsoft provides a new common controls DLL that applications can use to make their application appear "theme aware". If you run Windows XP, you'll notice that most existing applications have new title bars but the buttons and radio buttons and check boxes and such have the Windows 95 look. WindowBlinds instead can re-direct all programs to use new buttons, scrollbars, menus, etc."


So, it just intercepts messages, no dll replacing involved.

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 16:59
but your actually replacing the dll`s that windows redirects to right?


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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 17:03
That is one butt-ugly theme.


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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 17:49 Edited at: 17th Oct 2005 18:23
@Zotoaster

This is a neat little app thanks

@everyone else

Why flame it's not like he's saying you have to use this so why don;t this forum get along for once please


p.s mods i was just saying about it not trying to flame anyone at all
(Don't want to sound harsh either) it's just it's not nice whn you try to be kind an you get it all thrown back at you

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 18:21
Quote: "but your actually replacing the dll`s that windows redirects to right?"


yeah it's a wrapper, intercepter, exchanger, whatever you feel like calling it. doing the same job; it's replacing the Shell32 functionality.

hardly a new concept... GTK has been doing it for what 8-9years now?

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oooooo mum mum mum mummmm


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Darkbasic MADPSP
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 19:39
lmao!

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Dazzag
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 19:47 Edited at: 17th Oct 2005 19:49
Quote: "StyleXP mearly replaces the UXTheme.dll to allow Un-Registered .mstheme's to be used by Windows NT 5's own Appearance System"
Yeah, I mucked around with something a while back that pretty much allowed simple changes to the themes.

Dropped the ball a bit on that Warez sighting. Takes a while to spot it... "Where's Warez?". The fun game for all the family. Hmmm, perhaps not a "free" trial then anymore?

Cheers

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 20:07 Edited at: 17th Oct 2005 20:46
I'm also concerned about the Paint icon being at the top of the list ...

... He could at least download photoshop

Darkbasic MADPSP
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lol

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 20:19
Quote: "I'm also concerned about the Paint icon being at the top of the list"


I have it mid-way on my list... just beneath Photoshop heh

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 20:25
"Warez P2P Client"

Naughty Naughty!

Ergh What do I put now after that annoying siggy was 3 pixels high. You mods are very noobish dont ya think? HEHE
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 20:27
cool, I got a program like that, it comes with a whole lot of stuff like, custom object bars, custom program skins etc, windows blineds as part of the Object Desktop lot or sumfin

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Quote: "I'm also concerned about the Paint icon being at the top of the list"


that's from using it to make my theme


@everyone

if you don't like my theme, go away.


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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 20:36
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if you don't like my theme, go away."


I like it rock on m8

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 20:52
I like jellybabies

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 21:00 Edited at: 17th Oct 2005 21:01
well, paint's at the top of my list...


photoshop kinda takes an hour to load, paints a lot better for quick screenshots and stuff..

but most of my used applications have a quicklaunch shortcut, so windows doesnt add those to the list...

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Zotoaster
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 21:41
whew! thought this thread was gonna get tagged as flaimbait.. luckily it didnt lets keep it that way


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What makes you think it would be flamebait? Pretty good post showing people how to do themes in XP. Only reason it will be locked is if Mother Theresa comes along and stops it because of your naughty pirating ways.

Hey look, you can actually buy real windows blinds below. As in blinds for like windows (in houses). Good olde stupid google ads. Does anyone actually look at them? I mean I've been here since 2000 and I really don't know when they came in, and didn't even realise they existed until about 2 months ago.

Cheers

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 23:29 Edited at: 17th Oct 2005 23:30
I think we should turn this in to a 'Post your StartBar' thread.


"wibble" heh

(btw that's Aero running on Windows XP, not Vista or some style pack. Doesn't quite have the same impact as on Vista though )

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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 23:40 Edited at: 17th Oct 2005 23:41
Here's mine from work. With my fantastically customized theme:



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Raven
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Posted: 17th Oct 2005 23:41
never knew the Owning_Raven program was out of Beta

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Quote: "yeah it's a wrapper, intercepter, exchanger, whatever you feel like calling it. doing the same job; it's replacing the Shell32 functionality."

It's a hook, and well, shell32.dll... I believe Comctl32.dll is the Dll you should look for.


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We gone GOLD!

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Quote: "never knew the Owning_Raven program was out of Beta"

if it works, it works, no reason to keep programs in beta forever even after they work perfectly, like SOME companies

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Quote: "It's a hook, and well, shell32.dll... I believe Comctl32.dll is the Dll you should look for."


Common Controls? why the hell would it be in there?

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raven, you should stop cursing so much...
it's beginning to make you look like a middle school student...

Quote: "btw that's Aero running on Windows XP, not Vista or some style pack. Doesn't quite have the same impact as on Vista though"

mine's better

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Posted: 18th Oct 2005 00:25
pfft! your just living in a bubble wraped world, casual swearing is part of the culture here; and I tone it down a lot for the forum.

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