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Geek Culture / Installing Windows 98 Onto a computer with Windows XP

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Briere
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Posted: 29th Oct 2005 16:48
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How do I use 2 operating systems?
I have Windows XP, but I need windows 98 to run some recording software.
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Posted: 29th Oct 2005 16:53 Edited at: 29th Oct 2005 17:12
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I believe you have a couple of options here;

1) Run Win98 in 'Virtual PC'. Google it

2) Install Linux (!!) on a seperate partition. Install Wine (winehq.org) and run your recording software using that (Wine just hit 0.9b, and is very stable as of recently. HL2 just about works)

3) Reformat and install win98 first. Why? Well, you can't (as far as I know) select a partition for install when you install win98. So you'll need to reformat, and install win98 first. Then, you can install XP onto a separate partition (or fill the rest of the HD)


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Windows Xp has an option of changing compatibility. Just change it to 98 for that program and it should work. I'm not sure exactly you do this though. Try to google it.

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Posted: 29th Oct 2005 17:06
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yeah

xp has a mode for compatibility but it doesn't work all the time - much like systems restore

microsoft do virtual pc and vmware do vmware workstation both of which can be used to have an operating system running inside of xp

i've used both virtual pc and vmware workstation, vmware's is better, you have more control, but virtual pc is easy to use

http://www.microsoft.com/virtualpc/
http://www.vmware.com/workstation

if you want a dual boot system then you'll get problems in the 98 setup as it can't recognise the ntfs file system; if you reformating then simply create your 98 partition first and set it to say 20gb and then run the xp setup and tell it to take up the rest of your hd


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ive tried.
Pro Tools wont work in compatability mode
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Posted: 29th Oct 2005 18:30
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you can't run two windows on a system, thats the kinda of feature apple macs have But maybe, you could use two hard drives? Or partition your hard drive into two? I wouldn't follow my advice unless someone confirms it

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Quote: "you can't run two windows on a system"




Virtual PC ring a bell?


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If you seperate your hard drive into seperate partitions and install 98 before Windows XP, then Windows XP will also install a bootloader which will allow you to select between the two.

- Rpg Cyco

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Posted: 29th Oct 2005 20:45
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Thats exactly what I was going to say RpgCyco... Why do you want to run Win98?

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Posted: 29th Oct 2005 20:48 Edited at: 29th Oct 2005 20:52
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I ran the 98 disk on my xp laptop and it automatically did everything. I now have an option on boot to choose which os to run.

I have a few dos based progs I need to run and the emulation in winxp is no good as they run with a corrupt screen for some reason thats why I had to install 98 as well.


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ok i have virtual pc installed, and windows 98 already in stalled and running.

How can I move a file from my normal computer in my virtuals computer hard drive?
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you can install a set of tools - it's from one of the menus and it will add drag and drop support

failing that, burn it to a disc or use a flash disk


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ive burned it to a cd!
Thanks alot guys and gals!
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Quote: "you can't run two windows on a system"

bullcrap! ive done it before, just get a bootloader and install them on two different partitions.

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Quote: "you can't run two windows on a system"


how is that bullcrap?

The bootloader is what WinXP does if it detects multiple OS's installed.

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Posted: 30th Oct 2005 01:40 Edited at: 30th Oct 2005 01:43
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get a 3rd party one like this

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Of course you can run two Windows on the same machine :-P I've done it dozens of times, even with a Linux partition to boot.

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@Nicholas Thompson
IN YOUR FACE!!!!

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Quote: " @Nicholas Thompson
IN YOUR FACE!!!! "

Quote: "
The bootloader is what WinXP does if it detects multiple OS's installed.
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that's one big misunderstanding on both of your parts...

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Quote: "Or partition your hard drive into two? I wouldn't follow my advice unless someone confirms it"

Quote: "If you seperate your hard drive into seperate partitions and install 98 before Windows XP, then Windows XP will also install a bootloader which will allow you to select between the two.

- Rpg Cyco"

Quote: " Thats exactly what I was going to say RpgCyco... Why do you want to run Win98?"


Seems too many of us think a like


Quote: "Virtual PC ring a bell?"

Yes, but isn't it aupposed to be crap compared to running it naturally?

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Posted: 30th Oct 2005 20:51 Edited at: 30th Oct 2005 20:52
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Rediculous!

I believe win98 needs to be on the first 2gb of the disk, so that needs to be your first partition.

You can move you XP partition over using Partition Magic.

However, XP will become unbootable once you do this.

So here's the steps. I was able to install 98, XP and Linux on my laptop with XP installed first by doing this.

First, install XOSL boot loader, (by far the prettiest and best bootloader)
http://www2.arnes.si/~fkomar/xosl.org/

Then, use partition magic or something similar to shrink and move your XP partition over. Create a fat32 partition as the first partition for win98. Be warned you won't see your XP partition in 98 if it's formatted as NTFS unless you have some kinda hack for 98. So I would recommend using a fat32 partition for xp. But you can't convert it from ntfs to fat32 as XP won't boot (at least, with my experiance).

Now, with xp on your second partition, install 98 on your first.

Reboot and setup xosl to see you 98 partition. And now you can boot both


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why not comprimise and get 2000?

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2000 won't help in the DOS department. That said, I think 2000 is probably my favorite Windows variant. Versatile and fast.


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Quote: "IN YOUR FACE!!!!"


I'm puzzled.. How is having my point proved "IN MY FACE"? I was merely stating that the bootloader is what windows XP does if it recognises another OS on the machine. There is no need to "Get a bootloader" as Windows kindly does it for you. I'll admit there are many better ones, but the windows one does the job.

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