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UFO
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Posted: 30th Oct 2005 21:29 Edited at: 26th Oct 2007 02:33
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Lol please ignore and LEAVE :'-(

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Posted: 30th Oct 2005 21:31
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Its pretty good, but I'm too busy to join right now, sorry. Maybe later though, cause its not too newbish
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I hope I don't get flamed for being a n00b.


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Posted: 30th Oct 2005 21:40
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Quote: "I hope I don't get flamed for being a n00b. "


About half of the people that discover Darkbasic make their own message board right away... but I gotta tell you... the best place to talk about Darkbasic is right here.
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Posted: 30th Oct 2005 21:45 Edited at: 30th Oct 2005 23:01
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Quote: "About half of the people that discover Darkbasic make their own message board right away... but I gotta tell you... the best place to talk about Darkbasic is right here."


Well...um...uh..............

Well, someone from here already registered a few days ago....

OH NO!!!!! I'm GOING TO BE FLAMED!!!! AAAAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!

I admit I've seen alot of empty forums about DB, but most of them wern't organized very well...

Also, it has been a loooong time since I discovered DB. I just haven't registered untill now...


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What does your forum give a community that they can't get here?

I think your biggest problems will be:

1. You're a member of only 2/3 weeks.
2. As a forum owner, you should have expertise in the topic area.
3. There is a DB forum right here which is several years old, which you posted on to advertise a new forum
4. There is an adequate DB forum right here which is several years old, which you posted on to advertise a new forum
5. There is a perfectly good DB forum right here which is several years old, which you posted on to advertise a new forum
6. There is a superb resource and DB forum right here which is several years old, which you posted on to advertise a new forum

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Posted: 30th Oct 2005 22:23 Edited at: 26th Oct 2007 02:34
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Lol you're right I'm an idiot

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UFO,

I was just pondering sometime the other day, on an idea of how useful it might be for there to be a DB live chat channel. However, forums are much more moderate. But, it would be useful for quick assistance, instead of waiting for replies. However, it might not be the best idea. Opinions?



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Quote: "Hosted for free by InvisionFree"


Bah. Everyone does this. How you managed to get the resident TGC pirate to register on your forum, I'll never know though O.o
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Posted: 31st Oct 2005 13:00
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Quote: "I was just pondering sometime the other day, on an idea of how useful it might be for there to be a DB live chat channel. However, forums are much more moderate. But, it would be useful for quick assistance, instead of waiting for replies. However, it might not be the best idea. Opinions?"

I put a chat room type thing in the forum. It is kind of like a chatroom, but doesn't refresh automaticly when someone posts. Here is an example of one: http://cbox.ws/?cube With the cbox thingies, you can choose between a free one or a one you have to pay for that refreshes automaticly, and a few other things the free one doesn't have. I got the free one and put it in the forum. Only registered people can use it though. I think that is what you are talking about.

Quote: "Bah. Everyone does this."

Well, who would want to spend their money on a forum when you can get a good one for free?


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Quote: "I was just pondering sometime the other day, on an idea of how useful it might be for there to be a DB live chat channel. However, forums are much more moderate. But, it would be useful for quick assistance, instead of waiting for replies. However, it might not be the best idea. Opinions?"


Two words:
IRC.

irc://beer.devhat.net/
irc://pete.devhat.net/
irc://pwn.devhat.net/
(All linked, so everything's the same on each server.)
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Posted: 31st Oct 2005 19:08
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blanky,

Hmmm...however, isn't that a P2P/client to client direct program? Therefore, not so secure? I could be wrong. If I am, then IRC it is.



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Posted: 31st Oct 2005 19:13
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Quote: "There is a DB forum right here which is several years old, which you posted on to advertise a new forum

4. There is an adequate DB forum right here which is several years old, which you posted on to advertise a new forum

5. There is a perfectly good DB forum right here which is several years old, which you posted on to advertise a new forum"


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Oh my god ! You have a case of parrot syndrome that is worse than mine!
Oh my god ! You have a case of parrot syndrome that is worse than mine!


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Quote: "Well, some people might want a forum with less people in it. "


The only time that happens is when somebody doesn't want other people to reply to the message. Here people post asking for help... the more people there are the more likely they'll get the help they need.
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I signed up for support, but you really have to be here and have something to start something here. Not flaming or anything, but you should probably make a site too and get something to attract some peopl over.
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Posted: 31st Oct 2005 22:29
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I may have been very synical with my answer, but it was good advice that may save you the heartache of spending time putting a forum together just to abandon it in a month. Invision is a graveyard of Darkbasic forums, at least half a dozen a year. Hence my comment about the length of time you've been here...most people who have been members a year or so know about the forum graveyard, and know it would be silly to try themsleves.

People do make other, valuable forums. But they are far more than just a list of forum titles.

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Posted: 31st Oct 2005 22:50 Edited at: 26th Oct 2007 02:34
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Ugh. I was such an idiot...

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Grog Grueslayer
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Quote: "That is not true. I wanted to make a forum that will have less people so I will know everyone since there will be less people. I know about 50% of the people here a little bit (like remembering their other posts), but I would like to know then a little better, instead of only knowing them by their sig or their avatar. I am sure there are other people like this too. About not getting help as fast, that is not true either. Less members = less topics asking for help, so the users attention will be split up less, because there will be less questions to distract them from your question."


So you made the message board only because you want to "know" the posters better?... why not just get to know them by their messages here?

If you want to be in denial about less members = less help... it's ok with me.

Even if you have one or two members that are non-newbies their going to burn out real quick answering all the questions on your board. Once the people that actually know what their talking about stop posting... you won't have any good help for the newbies at all. Your messages will soon all turn into "Is anybody going to help me with my problem?!?!" messages.
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Posted: 2nd Nov 2005 13:19 Edited at: 2nd Nov 2005 13:20
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Quote: "so why won't this one have the chance of becoming one of those "valuable" forums?"


Quote: "But they are far more than just a list of forum titles"


Quote: "I thought you said this forum is a great resource, and degrading people who makes other forums. If you did that, then why would you call the other forums "valuable""


Quote: "But they are far more than just a list of forum titles"


I'm trying to help you here
Look at Walaber's forum...It's about Newton in Dark Basic, but also includes other Newton resources, and experiences from using it with other platforms. That is a good example of a forum that has added value. It's not just a clone of this site but with less resources.

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2005 00:36 Edited at: 3rd Nov 2005 00:41
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<nevermind> .

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<nevermind>

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Posted: 3rd Nov 2005 01:04 Edited at: 26th Oct 2007 02:34
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WHY ARE YOU STILL READING

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Quote: "If you do the math, the Good DB people will have the same amount of questions to answer in both forums...I will make sure that my forum will have about the same ratio instead of just a bunch of newbies."


There's no way to tell who's a newbie to Darkbasic and who isn't when they register to your board... unless you give them a test and turn away newbies when the ratio of newbies is too high.
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UFO Im not grasping your idea here, basically you've created a forum that has some of the features this forum has, but not all. This forum also comes with an IRC chat with profesional programmers, and the MODs on this forum are pro's to(even the makers of DB/DBP/DSK/whatever are MODs here that actually help). So basically your forum will be good is because there is LESS people on it... so that there will be more people...to answere the less peoples...questions...cuz there's less questions...from the less people...

Im sorry to say that the amount of questions being asked on the forum doesnt make a difference to the guru's. I answer every question I'm capable of and usually that's quite a lot of them within maybe half an hour, possibly a little longer if I feel like making them a snippet to help show them what to do. I'm sure the other MOds and guru's do this aswell, answering all the questions they can at once. Thusly, having less questions asked will just make them get answered quickly and done with, the amount of questions has nothing to do with it.

I'd understand if your forum had something revolutionary DB doesnt, like a discussion board dedicated to... I dont know a plugin you made like Walabers as Bat said above. But in the end it doesnt, it just has a few forums, with no good search list (eg the newcommers cant search for something before asking), some MODs with a basic understanding of programming, and...no members.

Not flaming but it really is pointless. DB forums have so much more.

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I can't figure out the need for any newbie to make their own Darkbasic board. How can newbies even begin to think that everybody will flock to their webpage simply because they say "Come here to MY message board!"?

It's one of those mysteries of the universe i'll never know.
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Posted: 4th Nov 2005 01:12 Edited at: 4th Nov 2005 01:15
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The newbie wants to feel special. Then the newbie won't have to go, wow, I like tdk's website. I wish I had one. Maybe the newbie thinks having a website will make the newbie "a better coder"... ?

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The newbie, The newbie, The newbie, The newbie, The newbie. That kind of rolls of the tounge.

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Posted: 4th Nov 2005 01:45 Edited at: 26th Oct 2007 02:35
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I have finally found out how stupid I was...

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Quote: "@ Ruccus - It does have a chat-type thingy"


I know I wasnt saying it doesnt I was just saying that the DBP forum has a perfectly good one here with pro's on it.

Quote: "@ dabip ______ vgm - I do have a website, but I am not allowed to have it public. It requires the viewer to have a valid student ID at my school, so you can't see it...It's there though...and it's pretty good too. And what do you mean that it makes me think I will become a better coder? That's crap."


Just because you took a communications course that involved making a website in either dreamweaver or html doesnt necassarily mean its a website, I go to school and I have the exact same thing but I can see no way the schools would allow us to make our IDs go public, nor could I see any school doing it.

Anyhoo, I wasn't telling you top stop, just telling you why there's no reason for it so you're basically wasting your time on the forum when you could be programming halo 2.

Its a shame you already spent so much time on it already though

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Posted: 5th Nov 2005 00:36 Edited at: 5th Nov 2005 00:37
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Quote: "but I can see no way the schools would allow us to make our IDs go public, nor could I see any school doing it. "

I don't mean they let our IDs go public, I meant that they wouldn't allow our website to go public unless you filled out a form, which my parents won't let me do...

Quote: "Its a shame you already spent so much time on it already though "

I admit that I was wasting my time, but I want to do something besides programming (no, forums about programming don't count) so I won't get tired of it. Whenever I would go crazy over something, I would only be doing that for a while, but then I will get tired of it. If I do other stuff too, it will last longer...

Quote: "wasting your time on the forum when you could be programming halo 2"

There are some things that are wrong with that:

* I am not good enough at programming
* Which would you want more? A topic about a MMORPG or huge FPS that they are working on, or a topic about a new forum...You don't see as much of the second of the 2 as you see MMORPGs that are bring worked on sadly
* Halo 2 is already out



OK, sorry about the wasteful topic won't make the same mistake again.

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Quote: "I am not good enough at programming"


I'm sure he meant that you could of learned more about Darkbasic in the time that you spent making that forum.
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No, I was talking about the "average" newbie. I actually like your board since it has better color schemse than most other "newbie" boards. Besides, there are other alternitives to getting a website. If you want a good free host, visit http://www.madmanhosting.tk. You get 1gb of space free, and you have no bandwidth restrictions.

Yah, I think you should get training on DBC to show us that you are serious about dbc. Then you can also contribute more to your board. Otherwise, sorry if I made you mad.


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....whatever

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Bah. Just because you're a Global moderator on the forums of that hosting site, dabip...

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Quote: "Hmmm...however, isn't that a P2P/client to client direct program? Therefore, not so secure? I could be wrong. If I am, then IRC it is."

IRC is a client-server type of service with the option of p2p connections. You have to accept or initiate a p2p connection in order to use that functionality. Such connections are called DCC (Direct Computer Connection) in irc-land, and if you don't want to DCC then you don't start or accept requests for them.

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Non-sense. Anyone can have a website. If you read the about page, the hosting was meant for anyone, even you!

Yah, I am global moderator. So what! lol. I was his first customer, so he found me trustworthy! Yah, his hosting service is really good. You should use it.


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Hi there

I tried the link at the top of this page (your first post) but Inet Explorer says the board doesn't exist. What's the deal?

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Same here. Although, I think this post has to do with it:
Quote: "
FINE!!! WHATEVER!!!!!!!!! I'll delete it then!
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I deleted it...

Edit: reply to below (didn't want to bump it) don't be. Someone else would have done it anyway
I haven't been checking the forum lately.
Please don't feel responsible...

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And I feel somewhat responsible.


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