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David R
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Posted: 7th Nov 2005 19:34 Edited at: 7th Nov 2005 19:35
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Ok, I'm making a browser application for kids at my local school*, with the mission to make it easy to use and generally friendly. However, it needs to double up as an every day browser too, so I thought "why not get some tips for features etc?"

So, I need annoyances, and things you really hate about your browser - or even features you'd love to see in a future version of IE/firefox etc.

Thanks in advance



*Incidentally, this browser is also able to bypass the cruddy filter progran, and access banned sites that have been banned by the IT dept. for no real reason. Pure coincidence though...


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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Pet hate is incorrect rendering, or only partially rendering things.

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Posted: 7th Nov 2005 19:45
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Bells and whistles. As long as it browses, I'm happy.

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Jimmy
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Posted: 7th Nov 2005 19:47
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I hate the fact you can see porn with them. Your browser should check images for excessive amounts of skin tone and not render them.


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Posted: 7th Nov 2005 20:05
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you can see porn with them?, I didn`t know that wow! <scurries off to find some porn>



if there is one thing I can NOT tolerate, it`s intolerant people.
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Teh Updates...

Red... Button... looking at me in top corner... firefox wants updates


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Posted: 7th Nov 2005 20:48
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Quote: "Your browser should check images for excessive amounts of skin tone and not render them."


That was actually something I considered designing for my final University project, but I thought the presentation in front of the faculty might be a little creepy.

And the fact that the technology is incredibly difficult to do accurately :-P

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Jimmy
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Posted: 7th Nov 2005 21:09
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Well you could always test and present with women in bikinis.


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Well I find that Firefox's browser's tabs are good but the pop-up blocker doesn't work that well for me. IE gets all popups. But I still like firefox cause it bypasses the school's proxy server.

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Jimmy
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Posted: 7th Nov 2005 21:15
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Am I the only person that never accessed the internet from school?

I swear, this generation is going down hill like a smoke from white apples!


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Posted: 7th Nov 2005 21:46
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Quote: "I swear, this generation is going down hill like a smoke from white apples!"


White apples smoke? Hold on... I've never seen white apples before...

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Posted: 7th Nov 2005 21:49
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We had the Internet at school, but it was text-based

Needless to say it was horrid.

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Posted: 7th Nov 2005 21:56 Edited at: 7th Nov 2005 21:57
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Quote: "Needless to say it was horrid."

greed:
still a threat from the your neighborhood to the internet.

I need someone intelligent to talk to me about my problems too...
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Quote: "I hate the fact you can see porn with them"
Aha....

And we didn't have the net at school. We had that BBC micro stuff... damn, can't remember.... Prestel? Dunno...

Cheers

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 7th Nov 2005 23:06
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We had the internet but we couldn't use it due to:
a) there were 60 peopel simultaneously sharing a 64Kb ISDN line
b) the clients were 486's running Windows 98SE with 16Mb RAM running in 16 colors
c) The mice had no balls (so to speak). They had been previously used to throw at people.
d) Google had an index of about 4 sites

As for the browser:
1) Stability
2) CORRECT RENDERING!!! (that is, dont use the IE engine)
3) Speed
4) Skinnable
5) Tabs
6) Plugins

In fact - why not just teach the kids to use Firefox or Flock?!

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Quote: "Bells and whistles. As long as it browses, I'm happy."


Amen, I'd love people to write apps now-a-days that just do the thing you want in a simple way. Remember the days when programmers used to try and keep memory use low and didn't bloat their apps? The reason people use Winamp instead of Real Player or WMP, is that it's a clean little app that does what you want efficiently and without a hassle.

... oh and tabbed browsing too.

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Quote: " Am I the only person that never accessed the internet from school?
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Nope, I never access from school because the connection sucks. As well
as my school computers. They have Linux and run on computers intended for windows, built by microsoft in 1995. Oh ya and they have a record breaking low of only 96mb of Ram You could probably imagine what we do at computer class. We type and type and type for no specific point.
All those tha have fast computers at school are lucky....

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Posted: 8th Nov 2005 03:11
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I like jimmy's idea, that's what you should add...

Quote: "is that it's a clean little app that does what you want efficiently and without a hassle."

as much as I liked winamp when i used it, it crashed WAY too much. I use iTunes now I lub it too.


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Undercover Steve
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Posted: 8th Nov 2005 03:15
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I hate the...




lack of cheese
and
lack of spyware
plus
lack of yo momma(j/K)


Really. Mozilla owns.

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At my school the Internet connection was very fast. We also used brand new Dell computers runnin Windows XP Pro. Maybe my school had extra funding. And I would like a browser that blocks all popups by default. I don't like tweaking something to get it to do what I want.
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Posted: 8th Nov 2005 04:07 Edited at: 8th Nov 2005 04:10
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Quote: "Your browser should check images for excessive amounts of skin tone and not render them"

You can't just look for the color, as a close-up shot of someone's face would count as 'excessive amounts of skin tone'.
And new websites would open up offering free high-rez grayscale porn

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Jimmy
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Posted: 8th Nov 2005 04:19
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Well then it should check for the remnant DNA of SATAN.


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Hmmm... I don't think they'd take photos that high-rez.

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they don't, just take a sample pixel and extract the DNA from there


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Quote: "Amen, I'd love people to write apps now-a-days that just do the thing you want in a simple way. Remember the days when programmers used to try and keep memory use low and didn't bloat their apps? The reason people use Winamp instead of Real Player or WMP, is that it's a clean little app that does what you want efficiently and without a hassle.

... oh and tabbed browsing too."


Sorry, 'tabbed' is a bell and 'browsing' is a whistle, you specifically asked for no bells or whistles.


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You mean a browser that doesn't let you browse?

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Nicholas Thompson
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Isn't that called IE?

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Well, according to the people who check my website, they mostly use IE, so I believe, when creating a website, it has also to look neat on that browser.

But I realised a funny thing on Apollo :
You can see the "Get Firefox" icon at the bottom of the page. But now check the peoples with a homepage : the symbol of IE.

- Mind the gap -
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Lukas W
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Posted: 8th Nov 2005 16:19 Edited at: 8th Nov 2005 16:20
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i like it how browsers actually can connect to teh internet.
you should add that function in your browser

you should make it possible to not only view images and movies, but 3d objects as well. and you should be able to save any image format to any other image format, any object to any other object format.

also make it possible to play games with your browser, like steam.

ps. i want 70% of any income for these ideas

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Why not make a 3D web browser. You wouldn't need to do the parsing, IE or something do that for you, but you could do some neat graphical effects.

Instead of tabbed viewing, have them on textured planes, or as different sides of a rotatable cube.

You could do some bump mapping where text is found to make the writing rise out of the page.

Could have a light source going around with the cursor so you don't get distracted by the slightly darker pop ups etc.

Speaking of pop-ups, they could literally pop up and off of the page and be dragged to one side.

Could ripple the plane object (mesh deformation) to show when the page is loading.

Might be pointless, but it would certainly look cool and engage the children.

Simple... yet fun!
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Quote: "Really. Mozilla owns."

hear hear Firefox takes wayyy too long to startup, and it does too much for me. I wanna download stuff where *I* want to, not always to the desktop.

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@Hawkeye You can set destination folder in Firefox!
I set mine to My Downloads...

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You can also set it to ask every time.

Do you thinks they is dis stoopid?!


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About not being able to use net at your school, myu whole school 30 computers has one dial up line.We all use it simultaneusly
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My school got an additional $30,000 fromt he government because the governments public education budget somehow got bloated and they came to our school first since we were the best in the state and of course all $30,000 went straight to the computer department since they keep of list of things they would buy if they had enough money posted on the door to all of their offices.


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Aww... I know it was told ages ago but...

Quote: "The mice had no balls"


Does anyone find this comment thoroughly amusing? I did .

Anyway, I hate teh fact that teh n00bs go on teh int3rnet. St0p that 4nd I'11 be H4ppy.

Anyway, I don't really know what to say other than use a fergin' good pop-up blocker.

Sorry for the uselessness of the post


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Anyone know of good HTML controls that can be used in .NEt except from the ones bundled with VS? eg. Not the IE one.

My search on Google is proving fruitless


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Drew Cameron
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Just make a really simple browser, that does not use alot of memory.
With tabs.

Then I'll be happy.

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And make the "viewer" a seperate control compatible with the .NET framework

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Think "winamp." Simple, and to the point.

Like IE, only less sucky.

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Quote: " Am I the only person that never accessed the internet from school?"

No you're not. When I was in school, we didn't have access to the world wide web. Come to think of it, we didn't even have the world wide web.


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Lukas W
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Quote: "Like IE, only less sucky."

yeah, but if we made IE less sucky, it would be just like Opera

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Thanks for all your comments guys, and sorry for the lack of replies on my behalf. Consider all (most) of you comments useful enough to include in my browser


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