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Geek Culture / Copyright(C) and TradeMark(TM)

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AlexI
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 15:40
How do you copyright some software and trademark stuff?
Darkbasic MADPSP
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 15:43
Make it copyrighted your self as long as you make it to go into a company palce e.t.c

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AlexI
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 15:45
dont you have to register it or something, ortherwise i could copyright something someone else made first
Megaton Cat
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 15:52
You have to go through a legal registration process.

You don't just
" Make it copyrighted your self as long as you make it to go into a company palce e.t.c"

as dbmad said. Whatever the hell that means.


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lagmaster
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 16:04
you need to pay a lot of money to copyright it, so you cant copyright your own stuff

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AlexI
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 16:05
sounds a long painfull process
Megaton Cat
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 16:06
Quote: " you need to pay a lot of money to copyright it, so you cant copyright your own stuff"


Yes, $50 is alot...for some folks.


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lagmaster
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 16:06
!hi! slow down your posting otherwise mods will be onto you

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AlexI
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 16:07
evil mods
lagmaster
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 16:07
lol, im not joking, your posting wayyy too fast

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AlexI
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 16:11
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lagmaster
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 16:12
if you live in the uk, when you make something, copyright is automatic, any other country you have to apply for a copyright iirc.

now stop post replies and actually READ a thread

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Sephnroth
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 16:28
It depends on the country - as lag said, in the UK copyrighting does not cost. But you do need to do something that would.. um whats the word, sort of "record" it so if you need to provide proof of copyright you have something official with a date on it that says when you did it. The way thats done in the UK for most things is to post it to yourself. My brother writes books and when hes finished a story he'll print off the entire thing, seal it up and post it recorded devliery to himself. Then when he receives it its sealed, dated, recorded by the post office and he'll keep it filed. Its IMPORTANT that you DO NOT open it when you post it to yourself though, it would invalidate the whole thing (because you might of added stuff etc)

AlexI
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Posted: 20th Nov 2005 16:33
Ok, Thanks
JoelJ
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Posted: 21st Nov 2005 01:34
just mail it to yourself, and don't open the package

then if someone ever steels it from you, you have a federal branch stamping it with a date and stuff then you can prove you had it on a certain date

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Benjamin
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Posted: 21st Nov 2005 01:44 Edited at: 21st Nov 2005 01:44
Quote: "My brother writes books and when hes finished a story he'll print off the entire thing, seal it up and post it recorded devliery to himself"

That's alright until someone in another country decides to steal your story..

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the_winch
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Posted: 21st Nov 2005 02:21
I don't see how proving an envelope passed through the postal service on a particular date will prove anything. You do know that they will happily deliver empty unsealed envelopes don't you?

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JoelJ
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Posted: 21st Nov 2005 04:45
Quote: "You do know that they will happily deliver empty unsealed envelopes don't you?"

then... uh... SEAL it! maybe?

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SirFire
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Posted: 21st Nov 2005 06:24
If you can produce UNOPENED registered mail that has been mailed to yourself, that stands up in court as evidence that the idea is yours. I know this to be true in the US, other countries do not go by this policy though. In other countries, you MUST complete the registration process before you go public or market your idea. If you market the product/idea before your registration is complete, and somebody else steals your idea and gets it registered before you do, you are SOL.

In the US, after you do the "poor man's patent", you can sell your product/idea freely without concern that somebody in the US will steal it. That's only for the US though, the world market can jump on it like a pack of wolves.

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Posted: 21st Nov 2005 07:18
Quote: " evil mods"

Jooin the club!

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David T
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Posted: 21st Nov 2005 08:52
Quote: "evil mods "


Ahem.


As has already been said, iun the UK copyright is free and automatic:

Quote: "Copyright protection is automatic as soon as there is a record in any form of what has been created (there is no official registration). However, steps can be taken by the creator of a work to provide evidence that he or she had the work at a particular time. For example, a copy could be deposited with a bank or solicitor. Alternatively, a creator could send himself or herself a copy by special delivery post (which gives a clear date stamp on the envelope), leaving the envelope unopened on its return. A number of private companies operate unofficial registers, but it would be sensible to check carefully what you will be paying for before choosing this route

It is important to note, that this does not prove that a work is original or created by you. But it may be useful to be able to show that the work was in your possession at a particular date, for example where someone else claims that you have copied something of theirs that was only created at a later date.

Another useful step for a copyright owner to take when copyright material is published is to mark it with the international copyright symbol © followed by the name of the copyright owner and year of publication. This is not essential in the UK, but may assist you in infringement proceedings, and will be needed in certain foreign countries. "


http://www.intellectual-property.gov.uk/std/resources/copyright/index.htm

I recommend doing what was done in bold. Depositing it in a bank is foolproof

And yes, the (C) Copyright Your Name 2005, All Rights Reserved doesn't harm either

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Dazzag
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Posted: 21st Nov 2005 09:16
Quote: "You do know that they will happily deliver empty unsealed envelopes don't you?"


Quote: "then... uh... SEAL it! maybe?"


Er, I think you didn't get the point there. What he meant was you could post a load of unsealed envelopes to yourself, then when you see something you like, just copy it and bung it in one of the envelopes and seal it up. I've heard the best method to prove you created it is to get loads of proof. ie. show it to lots of people. Or, for a cost, take it to a lawyer who can keep it for you. Etc etc. I'm betting if your mother and your girlfriend are the only people who can back up what you are trying to prove, then you are stuffed.

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