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BatVink
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Posted: 6th Dec 2005 23:14
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Before you ask...this is a legitimate question!!!!

I have a stack of old compact VHS tapes from an old video camera. If I buy a DVD recorder, I can transfer these tapes straight to DVD. BUT...can I then get them into a video editor on my PC? My current research says I can't do it direct, but is there any free and easy software to simply rip it to an mpg or AVI file?

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Posted: 6th Dec 2005 23:29 Edited at: 6th Dec 2005 23:30
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If you have WinXP and a graphics card with video in of some sort, then use 'Windows movie maker' that is a ms freebie.

[EDIT] That is assuming your video player has a video out. Mine hasn't but my Toshiba TV has for some odd reason, so I can record whatever is currently showing on my TV.

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Posted: 6th Dec 2005 23:45 Edited at: 6th Dec 2005 23:47
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wait, why do you need a DVD ripper if you're recording from VHS?

and if you get a video capture card, you can plug your VCR, Camcorder, Xbox, whatever, into your computer, and record it right to your computer that way, you can get fairly good ones for $30 on Newegg.com

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Posted: 7th Dec 2005 00:36
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I have firewire for my PC. I also have a video capture card. But capturing straight to DVD is the most efficient option. Using video capture on your PC, you can bank on a couple of hours work per tape to capture it and then offload it onto a disc.

I also find that video capture of analog is not the best quality on a PC. I can't comment on DVD recorders, but they are designed to record analog pictures

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Posted: 7th Dec 2005 00:40
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http://gknot.doom9.org/

Those are REALLY nice apps. The Auto one is probably enough for you, basically, you give it a DVD, say to it "I want a DivX at 200Mb with MP3 Audio in stereo at 128kpbs", click go and then go to bed In the morning you will have a DivX of the video.

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Oh I see. You want to convert the VOB files off the DVD into an AVI or MPG file. Can't help you there I'm afraid. I'm sure talking about ripping DVD's to files is probably not a good idea on this forum either as mods will think you are ripping commercial DVDs.

Good luck in your search.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2005 01:03
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Its perfectly legal.. For example, I have an iRiver PMP120 (20Gb Media Player) which can play DivX and XVid. For those long trips where I am a passanger (maybe a flight?) I might want to rip a DVD of my favourite TV series onto DivX files so I can watch them back.

Just because the popular use for DivX is pirating, doesn't mean its the ONLY use - otherwise we couldn't talk about computers or anything as they can be used for pirating!

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Posted: 7th Dec 2005 07:44
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dvd decrypt, a decent computer system will have your movie uncompressed into VOB files in about 2-3 hours


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Posted: 7th Dec 2005 08:49
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Nero has software like that mixed in with its burning software - might be worth trying that.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2005 09:59 Edited at: 7th Dec 2005 10:03
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Nero`s mp4 format seems to be propriatry, the only thing that plays Nero MP4`s is the Nero player, plus the last update seems to have removed some of the original functionality, trying to make a MPG2 file justs gets you a requester trying to sell you a plug in for the conversion, I copied my DVD`s onto a server (for home network use..more convenient) with DVD shrink 3.2 to get them off the DVD and Roxio easy media creator to make the files into MPG`s (exporting from CineMagic iirc), DVD shrink will convert your DVD into 4.1gig format that fits onto one single layer single sided DVD, you can save the result as a file to the HD from there and then use a movie editing program to load it into a project and save it back out as a MPG file, OR if the DVD is not protected then just insert it and import it into a project and export it as a file to HD.



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Posted: 7th Dec 2005 11:58 Edited at: 7th Dec 2005 12:00
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Thanks for all the help. I now have a full suite of programs to rip (DGindex), decode (DVDdecrypter) and write (VirtualDUB) to AVI...3 programs to do 1 job!

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Posted: 7th Dec 2005 13:32
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BV, AutoGK is 1 app (allbeit an interface for the ones you listed) that does all the work for you. Its really nice.

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Posted: 7th Dec 2005 14:53
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AutoGK looks good, but it is missing one element. In DVDdecrypt, you can pick a chapter and rip just that one. Although it's feasible in AutoGK, it doesn't list the files by Chapter so you have no way of knowing which section to grab.

Between all of these apps, I've covered every base. I'll just have to accept there's no all-in-one solution!

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Posted: 7th Dec 2005 16:49
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OOHHHH, i get it now :p i THOUGHT you wanted to take from VHS or something like unto it and put it on DVD. In that case, yes a video capture card would suck

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 12:53 Edited at: 9th Dec 2005 12:58
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Quote: "Before you ask...this is a legitimate question!!!!

I have a stack of old compact VHS tapes from an old video camera. If I buy a DVD recorder, I can transfer these tapes straight to DVD. BUT...can I then get them into a video editor on my PC? My current research says I can't do it direct, but is there any free and easy software to simply rip it to an mpg or AVI file?"


are the compact VHS tapes from the old camera just footage of you and your family or events around your life not including any television or pre recorded media.

you can with some models convert straight to DVD which means your vhs tape gets converted to mpeg2 inside the vob files.

dvd decryptor will decrypt the dvd contents from the dvd and make an extact copy on your hard drive, quicktime pro $40 AUD reads the vob files natively by double clicking if your mime settings are good and can be saved again as some other video codec format.

however resaving a mpeg2 file thats about 1 hour long into somehing like an avi with multiply by about 6 times in filesiZe.

saving it as a mpeg4 h264 would be scalar from mobile phones back to HDTV

there are many free converters and some with spyware which still work after you immediatley remove the contents after installation.

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Yes, it's just personal footage. I plan to get a DVD recorder with SCART IN, as that's what the video player has. I'm assuming that the recorder creates legitimate DVD VOB files.

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Funny, a few days ago I wanted to rip a DVD myself to AVI, (again legit, my buddies made a skate tape and they want me to put it on the web for them, they're pretty dumb and lost the originals and all they have left is the few DVD's they created), which I believe would be easier then what your doing, because, i cant tell what your doing


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My dad is doing this right now with all of his old VHS tapes. He uses a program called DVD Xpress. This program will run the DVD on the computer and then record while the VHS plays until you stop it. This program records all the video and audio into windows media files (either wmv or avi) that can then be altered. But be fair warned, you must have a big harddrive for the copying of full-length movies. Each VHS that we copy is between 100MB to 1GB.

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 22:01
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I'm trying to avoid the tape -> PC -> DVD thing. I want to do tape -> DVD and also DVD -> PC, but only for a small portion of the footage.

I've been doing tape -> PC, using a program that rips and encrypts at the same time, so you only need a buffer of around 2 gig, and a few gig to store a handful of mpegs until you archive them off onto disk. But if you want a DVD disc, you can add a couple of hours onto the process...that's my issue.

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Posted: 9th Dec 2005 22:19 Edited at: 9th Dec 2005 22:24
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You could do what i did, i bought a rca drc8060n dvd recorder for i think it was 350 bucks at best buy. You can use composite or s video on from a vcr and just record it right to dvd, then just put the dvd in you pc and grab the file.

No re-encoding or anything since the unit is (Divx Certified) the file recorded by the play can play in your pc and any divx file from you pc can be burned to a dvd iso disk and played in the player.

There's a bunch of divx certified dvds on the market now. If you wanted to even convert them to HD (1080x720) or something then of course you would have to take the time re-encode them anyways but great for a quick transfer.

Another thing nice about them even though they record in Divx you can final format the dvd if you wish not to record over them again and these will also play in any standard dvd player even without divx certification.

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