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AlexI
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007 is a trade mark does that mean i cant use that name in my game?
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David R
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No

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AlexI
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but i can call my game james bond + the rest of the name becuase james bond is not a trade mark
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David R
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I think James Bond is a TM actually. Just like Harry Potter is.

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AlexI
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Me!
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Posted: 11th Dec 2005 15:33 Edited at: 11th Dec 2005 15:36
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iirc Intel swapped to using names for CPU`s because they couldn`t copyright a number, if thats the case then I should think that 007 is not copyright, but James Bond is, then again they have probably patented it or made it trademark, so you won`t be any better off.



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007 cant be trademarked. its a general term that is just mentally ascossiated with 'james bond' however if your game has the words 'james bond' in it, you could encounter problems.

hey, even I need someone to talk to about my troubles...
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David R
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I think you'll find that 007 is a trademark of Danjaq, and unless it is used outside of the context of James Bond, you must pay royalties to use it

Quote: "007 Gun Symbol Logo © and 007 Numeric Context © 1962 Danjaq LLC. "


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it is used outside the context of james bond, its hi! 007. the clandestine gathering.

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"007 Gun Symbol Logo © and 007 Numeric Context © 1962 Danjaq LLC. "
Gun Symbol Logo means that logo is trademarked but number isnt. So if i call my book 007 its ok but if i use 007 logo(one with the gun) i would be sued
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David R
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Quote: "007 Numeric Context ©"


ahem.

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the_winch
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© means copyright not trademark.

By way of demonstration, he emitted a batlike squeak that was indeed bothersome.
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David R
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Quote: "© means copyright not trademark.
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I know. It has trademarks later on (in the legal wording) but if its (C)'d then he can't use it anyway (without paying royalties, which I don't he would be able to do)

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Damn...


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You cannot posibly trademark a number. Let me trademark alpha or sport or some such word.
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Frozen Flame
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why do you want 007? just stop the illegal questions and what not and just switch it to 006


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Quote: "just stop the illegal questions"

Questions aren't illegal.

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Andy
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>You cannot posibly trademark a number.

If the sequence of numbers is specific enough then it's entirely possible that you can.

>Let me trademark alpha or sport or some such word.

Why not try it. Microsoft has trademarked words like Windows, Word, Office etc.

It shouldn't be possible, and odds are that you can't, but if your Bill Gates, then nothing seems to be impossible.

>why do you want 007? just stop the illegal questions and what not
>and just switch it to 006

Actually 006 is a character from the James Bond saga as well, so if there is enough similarities, !hi! will be in big trouble anyway.


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Insanity Complex
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To find out if something is trademarked...attempt to trademark it. And don't use it within context of James Bond insinuations because that would be open for debate.

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Quote: ">You cannot posibly trademark a number.

If the sequence of numbers is specific enough then it's entirely possible that you can."


Then why wasn't Intel about to trademark x86? That is why Cyrix and other companies used the 586 name, so Intel went with Pentium, which as a word could be trademarked.

Quote: "To find out if something is trademarked...attempt to trademark it. "


Actually it's very easy to do trademark and patent searches on the net. I know in Canada I can just type in a name and I can even view the picture trademarks and everything. You can do the same thing in the U.S. and probably even the U.K.


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AlexI
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Posted: 16th Dec 2005 14:12
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I have made a game and i want it to turn it into a james bond game, dosent look like i will be doing that.
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Posted: 16th Dec 2005 14:18
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if you use 007 and its about a spy then a breif would have no problems linking the 2 together and sueing you.
however....depending on your market and how much you were asking would effect their attitude.
look at the people on ebay selling starwars armor and props for costuming...they make it clear that they have no connection with lucasarts and because they are just hobbyists then noones bothered.
if your game is a big seller then it would only be right that you bought a license to use the name but if your only small time and its just a fun game then not only would the owners of bond 007 get free publicity in a popular area they would develop a wider fan base...................then again if they were in a bad mood or bored you could lose every item you own,your choice really.

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Me!
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Posted: 16th Dec 2005 14:30
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rename it

Agent 7000 (A7K)
Jack Hacker

agent Jack Hacker of the Milleu Executive, a top secret government agency devoted to anti techno terrorism, so secret even MI5 aren`t allowed to know about it




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Posted: 16th Dec 2005 15:41
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When debating if something will get you into trouble, ask yourself: Am I using this brand, character or artwork's existing or historic success to help promote my game?

In your case, you plan to use "007" or "James Bond" as a character in your game in the same context of Ian Flemming's James Bond - a spy. Even if "007" isn't trademarked, you could still be guilty of "Passing Off", which is like a hand-wavey version of trademark infringment.

However... for your purposes I think you'll be ok. As far as I know (and I could do with Philip confirming/denying this) issues of intellectual property, trademark infringment, copyright etc come under Civil Law, not Criminal Law; The govornment won't send you to prison or fine you, but the owner of the IP/copyright/trademark can. So it's up to Paramount Pictures to firstly, find your game, play it, and probably send you a cease and desist.

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iv tryed everything!!!!!!!!!! could u please just add The gun and shooting Code thats All!!!!!!!!!
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Quote: "Agent 7000 (A7K)
Jack Hacker

agent Jack Hacker of the Milleu Executive, a top secret government agency devoted to anti techno terrorism, so secret even MI5 aren`t allowed to know about it "


Niice...lol

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AlexI
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Posted: 16th Dec 2005 16:35 Edited at: 16th Dec 2005 16:36
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what abput an edited version of this image, plus the game will not be sold
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tpfkat
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how about : jane blonde 36 22 36
in "gold finger"

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adr
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Dude, how are you not getting this?

If you want to be strictly on the right side of the law, then you cannot make any reference to 007 (in a spy sense), the gun logo, James Bond, Q, Miss Moneypenny... whatever.

The game "not being sold" doesn't make it all ok, it will just attract less attention. If you did sell it, then Paramount Pictures could demand a portion of the profits (rightfully so). So, given that you're not selling it just means that (at worst) they would send you a very scary letter asking you to stop all activity related to the product in question.

The effort that's going into making this half-baked knock off James Bond game simply isn't worth you being all stressed out. Take the decision to either disregard the copyright issues, or change the game's characters. Those are your choices.

No-one will think anything less of you if you lift the 007 logo and use the name "James Bond". To be honest, this community would welcome a new game, rather than point out various infringments.

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iv tryed everything!!!!!!!!!! could u please just add The gun and shooting Code thats All!!!!!!!!!
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