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Geek Culture / How do you guys rate F.E.A.R. and UFO:Aftershock?

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Fallout
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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 00:48
I was racking my brains for a game to ask for for xmas from the rents. I've not been keeping upto date with releases recently, but I came across fear. I checked out all the movies and screenies and some reviews. It's really raved about. What do you guys think? I'm the sort of person who likes either really detailed almost RPG style FPS games, like Deus Ex, or pick up and play games like PainKiller. I wasn't a big fan of HL2.

Either that, or I've been looking at UFO:Aftershock, which is supposed to be reasonable ... but I was a huge fan of the original XCOM games, so think it might be worth a try.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 05:57
F.E.A.R's not particularly a pick up and play game, but it's chapters are on the shorter side, much shorter than HL2; I beat the first four or five chapters in the first day, to my recollection. Nonetheless, if you didn't like HL2, you probably won't like F.E.A.R as much.

It's not really RPG styled, but obviously very detailed and consequently power hungry on your video card. The "Reflex Mode" is really fun, I can't get enough of those shockwaves from grenades!


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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 06:46
the FEAR single player demo had WAY too much bad language for my baby ears

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Wiggett
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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 06:56
fear, seriously i played the multiplayer demo and it ran so good on my pc i had to get the single player, after finishing the demo and cleaning my underpants, i decided that fear was the next game on my list of must haves.

The admiral
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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 07:39
If your into shooters then fear is great i suggest downloading the multiplayer demo and experimenting with it.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 11:17
Hmmm. Sounds interesting. I really liked the slo-mo vids of the grenades vapping people, and the idea of slightly better melee combat. I have a twin GPU 6600GT, so I should be fine for GPU power! Bad language is also a plus for me, and any attempt to add fear factor is good. I might give it a go.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 14:51
you should. but dont play it on baby level. play on normal or hard.
if you play it at hard the game is so much like fighting real humans.

that is an experience. fear is one of few games i actually want to play more than one time. but if i get the choise between fear and thief the dark project i'd definetly go with thief

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Sephnroth
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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 17:11
I think fear was overhyped an awful lot by the usual people wanting to be badass with their scarey atmos foul-languaged game. Wasnt bad, but it really wasnt that great. If you like pickup and play give quake4 a whirl if you havnt yet. Its not a particulary deep game, but I did really enjoy it for the arcadeyness of just running around blasting the crap out of everything - and being able to get inside a mech and blow things up with it is a plus. If you liked the other quake games you would probably enjoy this one, it continues the story (such as it is) from q2 and has a mix-match of weapons from q1 and q2. I liked it anyway.

Gonna go research the UFO game you mentioned now, i too was a big fan of all the xcom games but i managed to miss this one completly, never heard of it until now >.>

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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 17:46
Yeah, I want to find out more about those XCOM games too. Apparently there have been a plethora of them (4 or 5) sinse the last XCom:Appocolypse, all of which flopped. Look for Aftermath and Aftershock ... I think Aftermath came first and is apparently a 70% kinda game. Good but flawed. This Aftershock I think is a sequel with better gfx etc. and is a 75-80% kinda game.

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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 19:21
I played aftermath and I enjoyed it alot, didnt know about the sequal and think I will have to pick it up.

they may be scoring about 70% when reviewed as "games", but i think we can safely add 15% if you are already an xcom fan and a little bias towards the series which helps you enjoy them that little bit more

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Posted: 12th Dec 2005 21:11
Cool stuff. From what I've read, Aftershock is basically an upto date version of Aftermath, but keeping the same basic gameplay intact.

How did Aftermath compare to Enemy Unknown? I appreciate they're bound to be very very different (Enemy Unknown is over 10 years old now!! ). But does it keep the same feel? In particular, how is the soldier development and base management/research? Can you still destroy a lot of the level in tactical mode?

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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 07:45
Lets see what I can remember.

To start with, none of the latest games were, imho, as good as the original two with terror from the deep being rated in my books just a TINY amount better than ufo - both were awesome. I really didnt like apocolypse much though, it was okay, my friend LOVED it to bits, but I just kept playing xcom tftd again and again. I also dont think aftermath managed to fill the shoes of its predecessor completly. Still something.. not quite right. But for all I know im suffering from fanboi syndrome and not thinking things are as good as tftd simply because they ARNT tftd xD So in the end you will want to draw your own opinion - i expect demo's exist

Anyway, Aftermath WAS a good game despite what I say about it not being as good as tftd. I enjoyed playing it, the research trees were there in full (obviously researching the laz weapons from ufo and not the sonic ones from tftd - another thing i prefered from terror was the sonic weapons and aquatic everything xD). Now, I may be not remembering this right.. but I really cant recall any of the base building. I cant remember a damned thing about it. I have this feeling it wasnt there. You placed bases and you used them, you could research upgrades i think.. but I really cannot remember placing a single building in my base like you would in ufo or terror. I will have to replay it to double check that though, but if i cant remember anything about it then its pretty safe to assume it was disapointing.

In game was classic xcom though! I was playing turn based (not sure if you can switch like you can in apocolypse, but i always prefered turn based anyway) and it was still about getting the right guys with the right weapons to the right place and scouring that unexplored area of the map for the last alien praying to God he haddnt already spotted you and had a gun aimed at your favourite vertens head. Yes the characters still develop - as far as i remember you can still give them names you like, they get better as they become more experianced and you dont want them to die.

I dunno if i got as engrossed as I did with terror though, I recall having a special squad, all named and hand picked and maxed up to the highest ranks and if any of them died I wouldnt be able to bare it and reloaded - I dont recall quite the same sense of urgency in aftermath but it was there in some form and again this could just be tftd fanboy syndrome talking

Havnt played the new one yet, im going to make sure I do.

and now i fancy starting up terror, except its quater to 7 in the morning and i havnt even slept yet, thankyou very much

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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 09:36
Okay, just been playing the demo of ufo aftershock after like.. 30-60 minutes sleep (yes im going back xD) and i have to say I was really enjoying it lots. Action planning was good, it gives you alot more info this time so you can tell what people are upto and whats going on, voices were awesome LOVED having my psi on the team and switching to psi view mode where you can kind of sense enemies you cant see yet etc, enjoyed having the sniper prone and picking people off from a distance etc.

Also, unless you have watched certain transformers episodes this in-joke wont mean much to you, but i particulary enjoyed nicknaming one of my soildiers "Optimus" when it popped up a box saying "Optimus has no plan" which had me in fits (really is an in-joke)

bah im going to have to buy the full thing now, as if i didnt have enough games to play and suck up every waking hour i had already x.x again i must say "thankyou very much!" in a sarcastic tone xD

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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 10:22
haha. I'm glad I ruined your night sleep! If it makes you feel better, so delivery driver turned up at 7:30am this morning at my house, while I was happily snoozin away! Bastard. Cant they all have lie ins like the rest of us? What ... xmas delivery schedule? Bahhh.

Cheers for the info on Aftermath. Aftershoch sounds cool actually, but I really dont have time to play it. I know it'll eat up all my non-existant free time too. The only thing I would say is check for a few reviews of it. I've read some people saying there are only a handful of maps that you play over and over again, with the aliens in the same place. That put me off quite a bit, because the randomness of the original XCom games was a big plus for it.

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