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Takeshii
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 05:56 Edited at: 16th Dec 2005 21:38
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=29605&b=11#post
Warning: Link contains material that may provoke seizures.
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I watched the last one and next thing i knew it was 3 hours later, computer was off, (due to timer). Never knew i was prone.

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Benjamin
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 06:07
Really?

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Takeshii
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 06:22
petite mal

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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 07:20 Edited at: 14th Dec 2005 07:22
Quote: "I watched the last one and next thing i knew it was 3 hours later, computer was off, (due to timer). Never knew i was prone. "


Don't worry... you didn't have a 3 hour seizure. You probably had a minor one and was so wore out you went to sleep... then woke up 3 hours later. If you had a 3 hour seizure you wouldn't be alive to talk about it.


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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 08:52
Real bugger, man. I (thankfully) seem to be not at all epileptic...

Still, wouldn't it have been better to post this in Geek Culture (general talk)?

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Takeshii
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 21:28
Yes its quite often that when people have seizure, when bad/ and or multiple times, they usualy drift out of conciousness or into sleep... I had a talk with my docter and he told me lots of things, and a handy pamphlet called "Preventing seizures before they happen". Evidently im not supposed to stare at a computer/TV screen longer than 1 hour, and that if I have a LCD I can look at it for up to 1.5-2.5 hours. But i dont have a LCD, so i only can be one the computer 1 hour at a time with 2 hour breaks. And i cant use the computer with the lights off anymore, it says that makes chance of a seizure go up to...Theres a whole section thats about using computers even tho your vulnerable to seizures.

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Quote: "Evidently im not supposed to stare at a computer/TV screen longer than 1 hour, and that if I have a LCD I can look at it for up to 1.5-2.5 hours. But i dont have a LCD, so i only can be one the computer 1 hour at a time with 2 hour breaks. And i cant use the computer with the lights off anymore, it says that makes chance of a seizure go up to..."

What??!!??!

I use the computer for much longer than that, and I never had a seizure. I think you are going a little bit too far...
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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 22:44
When I was a kid I had Juvenile Myoclonic Epilepsy. The only seizure I ever had was self-inflicted with a program (just like your experience). I was programming in Quickbasic and I was working with screen flipping (the same as Darkbasics bitmap 0 being the screen and 1-32 being off screen). I had it flipping between two pages one page was slowly drawing a while line from the bottom of the screen to the top (slowly filling a big white box) the other page was a blank black screen.

The first time I ran the program I was watching the white line slowly go up and it suddenly jumped about 50 pixels... yet each line was full of white as it was programmed to do. I didn't know why it did it so I ran it again... yet this time I got closer to the screen and stared at the line waiting for it to jump. After a while the screen filled about halfway with white and all of a sudden I could feel myself fall back into my chair and I could see from my eyes I was indeed falling back but I couldn't move. The last thing I saw before I blacked out was the ceiling. The next thing I know i'm awake and every single muscle in my body was sore, I felt like I had been ran over by a semi, I felt like I hadn't slept in a month, and could hardly think straight. After about an hour my cloudy mind started to clear and I went to bed still sore from head to toe.

What's really bad is this happened after I was diagnosed and was on medicine to prevent seizures. My body eventually started rejecting the medicine (thowing up after taking it everytime) so I stopped it and eventually I grew out of epilepsy (the kind I had normally goes away after 10 years). Thanfully this was my only full seizure.

This problem never stopped me from looking at/using the computer or TV all day long and I doubt you need to limit your computer time since this is your first seizure. Just don't do what we both did to ourselves again.

I did go on to finish that program by the way.


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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 22:54
I just feel a little disorientated, nothing more.

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Posted: 14th Dec 2005 23:55
Quote: "The first time I ran the program I was watching the white line slowly go up and it suddenly jumped about 50 pixels... yet each line was full of white as it was programmed to do. I didn't know why it did it so I ran it again... yet this time I got closer to the screen and stared at the line waiting for it to jump. After a while the screen filled about halfway with white and all of a sudden I could feel myself fall back into my chair and I could see from my eyes I was indeed falling back but I couldn't move."

Ouch. What happened between the jump of 50 pixels? What happened that made you have a seizure? Did a ton of different colors suddenly flash on the screen or something?
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Posted: 15th Dec 2005 00:13
Quote: "What??!!??!

I use the computer for much longer than that, and I never had a seizure. I think you are going a little bit too far..."


Some people arnt prone at all to seizures. Luck of the draw i guess.

Quote: "This problem never stopped me from looking at/using the computer or TV all day long and I doubt you need to limit your computer time since this is your first seizure. Just don't do what we both did to ourselves again. "


Some people's seizures are triggered more easily/more randomly. This is the only seizure(that i know of) that i have had. So I will continue to go about playing computer and watching TV normally, but if its triggered again, relativly short from my recent episode, ill restrict myself, as i do not want to take chances

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Posted: 15th Dec 2005 01:43
Quote: "I use the computer for much longer than that, and I never had a seizure. I think you are going a little bit too far..."

only for seizure prone people.... dumnut

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Posted: 15th Dec 2005 11:06 Edited at: 15th Dec 2005 11:09
Quote: "Ouch. What happened between the jump of 50 pixels? What happened that made you have a seizure? Did a ton of different colors suddenly flash on the screen or something? "


What happened during the jump is that I zoned out because it effected me just a little at first... I basically blacked out and didn't know it... then woke up 50 pixels later. When I got closer and stared at the screen it effected me enough to have a full seizure. It was flipping between a totally black screen and this other screen that was slowly filling with white. It's the black/white flipping quickly that caused the seizure.

One type of epilepsy is just like what happened to me during what appeared to be a 50 pixel jump... many kids zone out and stare off in the distance. Some parents think that's normal for their kid so some kids go untreated.

Even though for the most part i'm over it I still avoid strobe lights and flashing scenes on the TV. If you have epilepsy and you see flashing that may effect you... your vision starts to blur and you feel like your drawn into the flashing... like you have tunnel vision... if you don't turn away from the flashing quick enough you'll have a seizure. It's a very weird feeling.

The following is some Darkbasic code that does basically what I did in Quickbasic... Darkbasic is much faster of course so it doesn't take as long to get to the top.

Everybody that tries this code... please don't look at this too long... even if you think it won't effect you. I don't want to be the cause of somebodys seizure.

As an extra caution... do not run this in full screen mode. Running this in full screen mode will be exactly what caused me to have a seizure.




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Posted: 15th Dec 2005 11:12
Quote: "So I will continue to go about playing computer and watching TV normally, but if its triggered again, relativly short from my recent episode, ill restrict myself, as i do not want to take chances "


That's what I would do if I just found out. There's no need to limit yourself if this is a one-time thing.


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Posted: 15th Dec 2005 11:48
how great is the chanse of me having a seizure if i've never had any before? what average percent of the people have it? and is there a way to find out if i have it except actually testing it out?

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Posted: 16th Dec 2005 13:48
I don't know the odds... I thought I was normal before I found out I had epilepsy.

The only safe way to test yourself without using that code and waiting for a seizure is to go to a neurologist... but that costs money.


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Posted: 16th Dec 2005 18:55
i agree with Grog, just watch the program to test yourself and wait to have one, i tried it, i started laughing after about 10 minutes, and at the 15 minute mark i fell to the floor in absolute laughter...but then my dinner came back to say hello...

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Posted: 16th Dec 2005 19:00
Might be a good idea to edit the first post to warn people about that before they click it.

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Quote: "i agree with Grog, just watch the program to test yourself and wait to have one, i tried it, i started laughing after about 10 minutes, and at the 15 minute mark i fell to the floor in absolute laughter...but then my dinner came back to say hello... "


No, no, no... that's not what I meant. It's best to just not know... until you have a naturally occurring seizure. There's no need to have a self-inflicted seizure like Dark Programmer and I had. You don't want it... believe me. It's a BAD feeling.


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Posted: 17th Dec 2005 01:45
made my eyeballs hurt but aside from that i was fine. however the version with the colors made me zone out and it seemed like i was watching my surroundings on tv rather than being there.

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Posted: 22nd Dec 2005 18:48 Edited at: 22nd Dec 2005 18:51
@Grog Grueslayer; i was only joking, i dont mean for people to stare at it, but seriously, i KNOW i dont have epilepsy, but i tried anyway, i was in a really good mood, thats why i started laughing when i wacthed the program(i'm kinda screwed up at times, i laugh at the stupidest things).

[Edit]: Dont try it unless(like me)you KNOW you dont have epilepsy.

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Posted: 22nd Dec 2005 22:04
It's ok.


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k.

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if the refresh rate of a program [or a p.c. ] is too low, it can cause a person prone to have seizures have them. p.c. users need to know that windows defaults to using 60khz (if the system has not been set by the user to use a higher refresh rate). setting the system refresh rate higher will also cure a monitor that appears like its blinking or slightly shaky and wont hurt your eyes as much. merry xmas.

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