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AlexI
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 21:31 Edited at: 18th Jan 2006 22:13
Please tell me what you think of my website.
http://fireproductions.f5k.com

Goto My Website And Sign Up On The Forum http://fireproductions.f5k.com
Undercover Steve
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 21:49
...not good? It is too black. You didnt make it yourself, and the javascript is messy. The div tags are messy, and you dont use a CSS stylesheet. The entire site is an epic that it works. The images on software page even overlap the text! Wow, please never do this again. learn html! Buy a book! SOMETHING.

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 21:56
book is stupid - gimme teh codez!

Seriously, that is a very basic site. I know you're young and it sounds harsh - but its not your site really, it looks very much like a template. Take some time to learn HTML and CSS. Dont look at javascript yet - you shouldn't need it. There are sites about how to design websites that teach you by showing you what the best and worst site designs on the web are. Google is your friend

It also looks exactly the same as last time you showed us.

No offence - but prepare to be flamed.. even more...

Undercover Steve
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 22:01
I hate when people recommend not learning javascript! It is a useful language, and with AJAX coming to all of us, we simply cant afford to not learn javascript. I tried to use ajax without javascript knowledge, and it was impossible. I couldnt edit source without being like..
??????

So LEARN JAVASCRIPT. It is useful. And it is a template. Look at the meta. MSHTML. probably frontpage express by the looks of it? Maybe frontpage? Donno, but the site stinks

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 22:03
Javascript is GREAT if you are any good with websites. But you have to agree that if you're learning how to make websites, its probably one of the lower priority thing! What use is Javascript if you cant neatly form HTML and CSS in the way it was meant to be done?

David R
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 22:09 Edited at: 18th Dec 2005 22:09
Oh my god......

Your forum is seriously disturbed. Either that or my cache is messing up again:



Quote: "Let's think the unthinkable, let's do the undoable, let's prepare to grapple with the ineffable itself, and see if we may not eff it after all."

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AlexI
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 22:13
its not like that on my computer!
Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 22:22
AlexI
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 22:31
Or david r you have editing the image
Undercover Steve
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 22:46 Edited at: 18th Dec 2005 22:47
edit: He probably used Webdev and CSS.
haha. Javascript is medium priorty!

1. html
2. CSS
3. Javascript
4. CGI
5. MYSQL/SQL
6. PHP
7. Ruby
8. Java
9. XHTML 1.1
10. Advanced PHP/SQL / Advanced CGI/SQL
11. Oracle

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Megaton Cat
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Location: Toronto, Canada
Posted: 18th Dec 2005 23:19
Well...I don't really have many positive things to say other then to continue practising.

You got a long way.


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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 23:33
@Undercover noob:

Thats an interesting list... I personaly feel it would go in this order:
1.HTML
2.CSS
3.MYSQL/SQL
4.PHP
5.Javascript
6.CGI
7.XHTML 1.1
8.Advanced PHP/SQL / Advanced CGI/SQL
9.Ruby
10.Java
11.Oracle

Javascript just makes the page more dynamic - to be honest, I dont know that is entirely necessary. Its the content on the page that people would be more concerned about.. For example, take this forum. The only real thing that javascript does is with this very textbox I'm writing this in. It controls instering tags if you click the button (which actually takes longer than writing the tag itself!). It also controls the smily popup and some data validation. This site could easily run without javascript, but it couldn't run without some form of serverside control and database/storage. The key here is content as is true for most sites that aren't just bells and whistles.

I agree that javascript is important for some control elements of a site, for example, in the new version of the site I'm making for myself, the system will use AJAX alongside PHP to let you customise the site within either your profile or in a local cookie/session. Its still in development. I also need to use javascript to cover up with IE is completely inept.

The main reason I discarded javascript earlier is because I know that "hi" is a young beginner programmer. At this point, he is not very strong (so it seems) at programming. He needs help developing a lot - but thats not a bad thing. We were all there at some point. Personally, I feel he needs to learn how to generate neat and effective HTML using CSS before he can move onto the bells and whistles like Javascript, PHP, MySQL (or other serverside apps). Whats the use is being able to validate a form for entry into a PHP controlled MySQL database for your homebrew forum if you cant produce neat HTML for the client side?

Just my 2 cents (or pennies I suppose.. )

btw: I'm no poo pooing your list, just explaining my opinion

Megaton Cat
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 23:38
Someone's list has just been poo pooed.


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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 18th Dec 2005 23:39
wondered what the smell was...

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