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Geek Culture / Anybody here knows why so many game developers and producers stray away from boxing videogames ?

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POETICDRINK2U
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Posted: 1st Jan 2006 22:54
Anybody here knows why so many [b]game developers[/b] and producers stray away from boxing videogames ? It has a large fan base and it's a money maker.

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Posted: 1st Jan 2006 22:56
Because they're boring as hell? Seriously, I mean how much can you actually do with a boxing game that hasn't been done to death already?!

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Posted: 1st Jan 2006 23:07
Do you mean "boxing" video-games as in shipping the game in a box instead of an electronic download, or the type where idiots hit eachother?


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Posted: 1st Jan 2006 23:20
I think as in type when idiots hit each other.
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Posted: 1st Jan 2006 23:22
I've never played a good boxing game - one of the main reasons they're so rubbish is the fact the control interface limits what you do. How fun is it just to hammer X in order to win a bout?

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Posted: 1st Jan 2006 23:23
boxing (as in the sport) videogames are never much fun, there isn't too much skill involved in pressing the few official punches that boxing allows and learning the counter blocks, you're left with a game that if you practice it enough becaomes VERy easy to master, as oposed to full fighting games where different characters have completely different fighting styles to master, and hundreds of moves each.

Plus boxing games pretty much have to be played from first person perspective, otherwise the left and right nature of the sport is lost, but a first person view whilst playing a boxing videogame is hard to pull off as in real life you'de be constantly moving your eyes/head around, and that just creates confusion and motion sickness in games.

Put simply, boxing games HAVE been made, and continue to be, they are just a rarity as the games never get that popular, sue to not being very playable.

The only truely great boxing games I can remember are Nintendo's Punch-out games on the NES and SNES, and even those were quite flawed compared to WWF style Wrestling games and Street Fighter 2 style fighters.

The Ultimate Fighting Chamionship games haven't been too bad, the dreamcast one was quite good actually. Not quite boxing obviously, but similar in the bloodsport kinda way...


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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 00:05
Quote: "How fun is it just to hammer X in order to win a bout?"


None of you have obviously played any of the Fight Night games from EA--- you don't just hit one button. You use the left and right analog sticks which act as your arms--- so you have to manually swing and block.

Those games are so dang fun

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 00:19
Too bad the real thing isn't fun.


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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 00:44
What are you talking about? Cats like you can box really good! I was annoying my cousins cat one day and she back handed me in the nose, then jumped on my cousin.
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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 00:45
it is if you'r winning

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 01:13
My friend loaned me Rocky (insert some roman numeral here) for xbox and I nearly pissed my pants. It was so much fun slamming a creep in his gut and skull, or catching a beat-down when my skills didnt fit the bill. I was wondering how the EA Fight Night games were, as I was thinking of picking one up. I trust the Jeku man's opinion (a fellow 7th Guester) and have go asap.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 01:36
I have played one good boxing game, and it will never be challenged as far as how extremly awesome it is

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 01:54
Quote: " I have played one good boxing game, and it will never be challenged as far as how extremly awesome it is
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I second that. Punch-Out also happens to be the reason why there aren't many boxing games. IT PUTS THEM ALL TO SHAME.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 02:12
There are a couple of really good ones out there;but the problem is that they are text based games without 3D animation.That's why they don't sell to a large audience.There's a game called Title Bout Championship Boxing that has a awesome presentation,but that's it.If someone was to use Fight Night Round 3 graphics, Title Bout Championship Boxing presentation,some RPG elements and gameplay.Then you will have a million dollar game.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 02:42
Until they release something of the sort like So and So's Punch Out Revolution... you have two of the remotes connected Nuchaku style and use each one as a fist...

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 02:58
Quote: " I've never played a good boxing game"


mike tyson's Punch Out on the nes. I think that's really all that is needed.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 03:19
Quote: "I was wondering how the EA Fight Night games were, as I was thinking of picking one up. "


You definitely should! And it's cool when you get knocked out and you have this double vision effect where you have to line up the two images in a time frame to get up. After a while it gets harder and harder where it seems like you're too drunk

Anyone played 4D Boxing from the early 90's? That one was revolutionary and cool--- very fun to play!

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 07:36
So the real reason is lack of innovation. People can't come up with original ideas for boxing. I guess they concentrate more on the Fighting games then the boxing. Much wider in possibilitys.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 08:35
I remember back when I was a kid, there was this punching game thingy in the arcade. From what I remember, some thugs got your girlfriend in an alley, and you're given three chances to punch as hard as you can. There was this red punching pillow thingy like those in a gym, and when you punch it, it measures the strength of your punch. If you hit hard enough, you win.

Not much of a boxing game, but hey.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 09:18
yeah arkheii there was that one, plus another one wher eit takes a photo of your face and puts it on teh bad guys, and you play a super punching robot superhero! (some japanese thing) and you punch him and compare the distances to win. just like that old school arm wrestling game.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 10:31
Boxing would probably be good using the Gametrak. Otherwise I find it boring.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 11:05
Best boxing game I ever played was Frank Bruno's boxing on the ZX Spectrum. Brilliant game, although you needed to be a bit of a keyboard master to play that one. Look it up; it was great.

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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 11:43
Quote: "Anyone played 4D Boxing from the early 90's? That one was revolutionary and cool--- very fun to play!"


Yes, it was a great time waster at school!


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Posted: 2nd Jan 2006 12:06
I think the problem with boxing games is you'll never get it realistic. It's not really possible to have your opponent swing at you and hit within 1/20th of a second, and expect you to hit the exact direction to dodge the punch (ala real boxing). That one where you control the arms manually sound like a good idea though.

I've only played Knock Out Kings (I think on the PS2, but not sure). That was utter crap. That was just button bashing. Innovation is definitely needed to bring those games back to popularity. But personally, I'd always rather play a wrestling game. Punch the stomach and face?!? Or punch to the stomach and face, smash over the head, pile drive, throw out of the ring, fly through the air, crash through tables, beat with ladders, climb up the ring, bounce off the rope, elbow drop etc etc etc.? Variety is the spice of life.

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Quote: "Quote: "Too bad the real thing isn't fun."

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