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Geek Culture / Laptop questions

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Big Man
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 15:19
I am currently on the look out for a laptop but before I buy one could you guys answer me these few questions.

1) What is the difference between a notebook and a laptop?
2) If there is a difference which is better and which is cheaper?
3) Where can I find cheap laptops with a medium range spec(budget up to £250 I know its small)

thanks for you help

P.s for question 3 please dont tell me to go to ebay.

BM

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Killswitch
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 15:47
You're not going to get a medium range spec laptop for £250. Just save up and buy a computer, honestly its worth it.

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John Y
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 15:49
Double your money to be able to afford an entry level laptop.

Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 15:51
depends what he wants it for - a computer will be a waste of time/money if he wants to work in different places...

I have an iBook (cost abuot 3x more than your budget) and its the best thing i've ever bought. Its superb for working on (web and Office type stuff). It'll be crap for gaming and for DBP programming though..

What do you want your laptop for?

Kangaroo2 BETA2
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 16:05
If you just want it for portable word processing, spredsheets, mp3s and mpgs you'll be fine with that budget, personally I'd recommend a Toshiba Libretto 100CT (sub notebook, about as big as a VHS cassette with an amzing widescreen tft)upgraded to 266MMX, 64Mb and a high capacity battery. For 200quid ob ebay you'll get one of those, and a cd-rom, fdd, modem, and network card, they are frankly awesome little units, MUCH more portable than an actual laptop.

Of course if you want something to run DBPro / FPSC, you'll have to spend a bare minumum of 450 quid....


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Big Man
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 16:08 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2006 16:08
Wait you dont need loads of money for an entry laptop. (I will go up to about £350 if I really need to.)

I found this site.
http://www.student-laptops.co.uk/

they are pretty cheap and reasonable spec.

P.s I just wanted those questions answered.

thanks

BM

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himynameisali
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 16:13
Not the cheapest but the best : Dell Inspiron XPS gen 2 - Best laptop you can get (I recommend) .

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John Y
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 16:23
With a 5 minute battery life!

The best laptops are the mac range. I love my Powerbook, and the iBook range is superb as well. 4+ hours of battery life is what your looking for!

Big Man
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 16:25
dont want a mac

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OSX Using Happy Dude
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 16:47
Acer Ferrari laptops are pretty good.

Anyway, why not go for a Pocket PC ?

Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 16:53
I still think an explanation of what the laptop will be used for will be helpfull

Big Man
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 16:54
not a pocket pc I think I do want a laptop.
Even if it isn't great spec.

@ Stinky stoat.
You have changed your name again why?

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 17:08 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2006 17:08
Why not ?

As mentioned a lot : Questions are a burden to others, answers a prison for oneself.

Big Man
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 17:15
It will mainly be used for games development and music I plan to get some recording software. I don't know how realistic that is or how high spec it would need to be but that is why I am posting the thread.

BM

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IanG
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 17:20
the difference between a notebook and a laptop is nothing - different name for the same thing

they have started to call them notebooks as you are not suppose to put them on your lap, as it affects male (and possibly female) fertility

in short if you put it on your lap for a long time it will fry them


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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 17:25 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2006 17:27
Woolies are selling some laptops for £399, although you could get some better spec ones elsewhere, for a little more.

Unfortunately laptops aren't cheap... eBay may be the best place, as long as you get a trustworthly person.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 17:34 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2006 17:34
"It will mainly be used for games development and music I plan to get some recording software"

If you mean games development in dbpro, you'll have to pay 400+ preferably more. Reme,ber that dbpro perfomrance is 90% gpu not cpu, and 90% of laptops (especially if they are more than 2 years old) have rubbish gpus. Hell I could go into dixons right now and spend 600-700 pounds on a 2.6Ghz 512mb Ram DVDRW laptop that would not be able to run dbpro very well at all, because they stuck a weedy onboard system sharing gpu in it to cut costs

And if by "music" you mean actually developing anything not midi, you'll need at least 512mb of ram and a very decent sound card, not a crappy shortcut solution. I'd recommend an external Sound Blaster audigy2NX or above. It you just mean listenning to mp3s, watch out for batterylife on 99% of most modern laptops you'll be lucky to get 2 hours on one charge


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Dazzag
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 18:22
Not a hope basically. £400 should get you a nice little Centrino effort if you look around, but not much hope of using with DBP. There is a 1.4Ghz Centrino in my house (not mine) that uses internal Intel Extreme graphics (spit). No chance with any games made after 2001 (inc. DBP). Not bad with simple stuff though. And if by "developing in DBP" you mean "Chess" rather than "Doom 3", then fine. Otherwise no.

A while ago I picked up a nice Dell 8600 (1920x1200 screen - Mmmmmm) from the Dell outlet for a very decent price (about £900 for a system worth twice as much at the time). Still plays Doom 3 without any issues, and DBP is great on it. But notice that even at half the price it was still £900.

Oh, and with Centrinos then times the CPU by 1.5 to get a better idea. My Dell is a 2Ghz centrino. So basically equivelent to about a 3Ghz P4. In games this more or less is true, and in one experiment with SuperPi (calculate million decimal places of Pi) not even a 3.6Ghz P4 laptop could touch it (only a fully loaded AMD64 which beat me by only one second).

http://www.whatlaptop.co.uk/Forums/Default.aspxThis site was great when I was researching which laptop to get. Has all the main sites, and reviews. Couldn't have done without it basically and is lower on the Fanboys than most sites. For instance it stopped me at the last minute from buying a fully loaded Alienware (for £2k) because (at the time) other companies are out there that use the exact same components (including chassis), but are decently faster (was rubbish memory at the time) and hundreds of pounds cheaper. With better reputations. Hmmm. Don't get alien eyes in the BIOS though eh?

Cheers

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