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Geek Culture / So is anybody actually holding the GP2X in their hands right now?

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Megaton Cat
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 17:02
Was alot of hype before they came out, with several threads popping with massive raves about the ultimate homebrew machine and I definatly heard alot of "I'm getting one"s.

Been kinda quite after it's Christmas release...anybody who got it, will they please mention something about it? Kangaroo, Bouncy?

Thinking of buying it to play Emulators and Videos. Anything horrible I should know about it, e.g does it explode when you have more than 2 emulators on your memory card.


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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 17:06 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2006 17:07
Na - I got a Dell Axim 51V, which should be replaced in about a week or so - the latest A04 upgrade decided it didn't like ActiveSync syncronishing, and would generate an error report... Which is rather ironic as I deemed the GP32X too unstable (and uses Linux too).

There have been a whole load of complaints about those (unfortunately I didn't see them until later), so whilst I've had no real problems (except for powering on and syncing), I certainly wouldn't get a Dell one - I may try and get a Acer PC 2003 later on (or maybe an iPaq).

Got some Pocket PC stuff on my website too!

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 17:27
I held off getting one as I heard of a few teething problems with the first batches, it was sugegsted they were for "testing", I didn't want to pay that kind of money to have a "new improved" version a few batches later

I will definaitely be buying one soon though, within the next few months


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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 17:30
iPaqs are nice, but certainly not competitors to the GP2X... totally different kinds of products.

You all failed to buy me a GP2X for christmas so no, I don't have one

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 17:36
I will invest in a GP2X, but not yet. On the Retro forums I hang out on everyone wants one, but they acknowledge issues with the firmware that makes them not worth the risk yet. The units themselves are sound, but until some of the bugs are ironed out with firmware upgrades I won't buy one just yet. Most of my retro mates feel the same way.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 17:43
Well, from all the bugs and glitches I've read about online - maybe I'll just get a PSP for Emulation.

Or wait untill somebody here buys one in the coming months.


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Darkbasic MADPSP
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 17:44
Quote: ". On the Retro forums"


Whu not add a retro area here?

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 18:00 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2006 18:01
Quote: "Whu not add a retro area here?"


If you want to discuss a retro game you can do it in Geek Culture, like people have in the past. Or go and find a retro forum.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 18:05
But rich likes retro area's so why not just add a dedicated area

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 18:34
I have the original one, and that has full speed megadrive and gameboy emulation. I'm not sure if the upgrade will be worth it...

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 18:36
Quote: "But rich likes retro area's so why not just add a dedicated area"


Because he can go to a retro forum for that, just like you can.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 18:51 Edited at: 3rd Jan 2006 18:54
i have a gp2x

there are issues with the default firmware. 1.01? it wont play more than 20mins of xvid video without freezing. upgrading the firmware to 1.1.0 fixed it. played xvid's for 3 hours straight.

i purchased mine on the cutoff delivery date for xmas.

the things some people point out that need doing is;
proper hardware based sdl library for gpx2 not linux ones - will speed up the emu's and games.
open transport tycoon does not work properly - no proper scaling, everything is off screen.
quake 2 is too slow because of sdl port.

sometimes games/videos will freeze the console so you have to reboot it. and when you switch it on after it sometimes wont boot linux. (try 2/3 times might work if not wait 10mins)

my gp2x has no flaws in terms on the actual hardware, but when ou order from gbax.com they list some small faults and fixes for them.

the console just needs a decent firmware and the will of good developers and i should say past summer it should be a good enough console to use all the time.

but just give it time, they are making custom linux kernels for it and released a decent firmare fixing many first firmware faults.

but it might be worth buying it now and playing with it, just waiting for playbasic for it and i should be set *cough*

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 21:26
YEs it seems to be mostly firmware propblems - I think I'll wait till its stabilised though before dropping the bucks in It still is an amazing machine though I'm really excited by the prospects of what it could potentially do. I love by GP32 and play it every day (often whilst waiting for long dbpro compile times )


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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 21:52
Unfortunately it doesn't have wireless connectivity though...

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 21:53
.......*cries*

i got a gp2x.. infact *reaches over and grabs it, fiddles with it sadly*

awesome peice of kit. collaboration between my mother and best friend made it possiable for me to own one, a sort of uber christmas pressie. genesis (megadrive) emulation was perfect and theres some good homebrew stuff out there. Was enjoying playing hexen on it too Had my OS themed as well.

However, i bought an AC adaptor so i could safely flash the firmware without risk of power dying. I left my batteries charging whilst I did it. I then left my gp2x on the desk, off but still plugged in and left the room. My blind (litrally blind, old cat, cant see) cat wandered into the room and got caught up in the ac adaptor wire and i turned around in the hall way in time to see my gp2x crash to the floor. It no longer works with batteries and the joystick doesnt register pressing left - words cant describe how i felt and am still feeling! Will try and get it fixed :x *sadly puts the gp2x back in his desk drawer*

what time I did get to spend with it i thougherly enjoyed though. recommended unit for people more inclined towards the retro side of things (in saying that the psx emulator for it is coming along in leaps and bounds) - only problem with the hardware anyone has mentioned is some people have complained of "dodgey" headphone jacks.

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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 21:56
Ouch Sephnroth. I really feel for you. I am sure the cat did it out of kind heart - to save your productivity rate. Don't be too harsh on it.

How do you plan to get it fixed?


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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 22:00
Sephnroth
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Posted: 3rd Jan 2006 22:08
I emailed the peeps i bought it from and they have said I can send it back "for testing" - quite what that means i dont know. It has a 1 year warrenty but im not sure it covers this sort of thing - its obvious it worked when I got it due to the fact it has upgraded firmware etc - it still powers up with the AC adaptor, just not with the batteries. Crack in some choice places of the chipboard i expect.

At the very least im hoping the unit can be serviced or repaired, possiably for a charge. I know that if they wont do anything with it im shafted, the full kit (gp2x+homedev sdk+usb cables etc+1gb sd card w/ usb card reader) cost £174 and as my bank balance currently reads £7.34 and my parents one currently reads in the minus figures i cant afford a new one :/

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Posted: 4th Jan 2006 00:00
Sephnroth thats the sadest thing I've ever read


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Posted: 4th Jan 2006 01:13
And thus the question -

"Can a forums post make you cry?"

Has been answered!

On a serious note, that seriously sucks Sephnroth.

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Posted: 4th Jan 2006 02:47
Quote: "But rich likes retro area's so why not just add a dedicated area "


If we added a dedicated area for every little sub-topic, we'd have way too many dedicated areas clogging up this forum. One more silly suggestion like that and I'll have you expelled!


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Posted: 4th Jan 2006 03:24
How about a sub-forum for Mod-music discution? Everybody loves mod music...
Or a sub-forum for pie... Mmm... pie. I'd make a thread about chicken pie, and some other guy would make a thread about strawberry pie, and some idiot would say something about queesh (dunno how you spell that... o_O) and we'd all flame him till somebody locks the thread and makes another thread about meat pie. Mmmm... pie....

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Posted: 4th Jan 2006 05:06 Edited at: 4th Jan 2006 05:28
pi



I could show you how to bake a special pie. It's called. The Billionaire

Take Bill, season with suspicious by-stander


Prepare ingridients, removing any chance of retaining dignity.


Heat until Bill and Suspicious by-stander have completely mixed.


And enjoy, possibly with light garnish of useless assistants.


Alternatively, download this simple video showing you how the professionals do it. http://www.bitstorm.org/gates/creamedgates.mpg

Back on topic, I don't have one and I'd much rather have the GP32, it's cheaper and has a massive collection of games to play on it.

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Posted: 4th Jan 2006 06:19
i dropped my gp2x the other day and found the batteries dd not fit anymore so i moved the metal contact to fit the battery and it works ok. maybe it's worth if they set the contacts at a certain distance. rarther than a flimsy one that can make batteries fall out

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bhaha, i remember the pie incident, i also remember someone made a Wak-a-Mole type of game, but it was called "Pie-Gates" guess how it was played...

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I think I might buy one. Yet, as others have said and mentioned. not until the bugs and quirks are ironed out and resolved.

I wish money would grow on trees where I live. Too much stuff and too soon. Sure, I'm interested in this GP2X device. Yet, I'm also interested in Project Hydra(the Cube) game console and also the XGS 2...both from Andre LaMothe.

Decisions...decisions and not enough money to buy all this.
Things that I'm interested in and consideration of purchase:

GP2X, PS3 or Nintendo Revolution, Cobra game programming language,
the 2 DBPRO books, Cold Steel 3d engine, Pure Basic full version,
and the book 'Black Art of Video Game Console Design' by Andre LaMothe, and also Project Hydra and XG2 game consoles. Again, too much stuff.

hmmmm....for now, I'll just buy Andres' book, and wait for both the second DBPRO book and Cobra.


cheers,

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Posted: 4th Jan 2006 19:54 Edited at: 4th Jan 2006 19:58
Is there any chance that the gp2x can emulate N64 and GBA?


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gba eventually no doubt - n64 i dont see happening. it had a nasty dual core setup that would take more power than the gp2x has to emulate imho, slowed down further by the lack of a 3d accelerator in the unit. If the source to korn was availiable than maybe, it was one of the fastest low-spec n64 emulators for the pc. But its not availiable in source form and most of it was written in x86 asm anyway.

For n64 emulation to be availiable on the gp2x an emulator would have to be written from scratch, the cpu core etc written specifically for the gp2x's ARM processors. Huge job and i dunno if anyone would be willing to tackle it and even if it was done im not convinced it would be that fast at all. Still, maybe someone will proove me wrong - the PSX emulator is coming along quite nicely

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Posted: 4th Jan 2006 21:19
How about a GP2X emulator for my PC?

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Would be nice

Got my Axim problem sorted - now to start (hopefully) designing some games...

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Quote: "How about a GP2X emulator for my PC? "
sounds cool i still would rather have a psp

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Posted: 4th Jan 2006 22:11 Edited at: 4th Jan 2006 22:40
Sorted my Axim problem - now I've got two of them

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Posted: 4th Jan 2006 23:34
I'm sure a GBA emulator will arrive - n64 is possible but would be a lot of work it seems, due to the way most n64 emulators are gpu and cpu based


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Posted: 6th Jan 2006 07:27
gba supported and psx supported

list of emu's here:
http://archive.gp2x.de/cgi-bin/cfiles.cgi?0,0,0,0,5

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Posted: 6th Jan 2006 14:07 Edited at: 6th Jan 2006 14:08
Okay, I hold in my hand a fully working gp2x. *another little tear, this time happiness*

Two days from the day I posted my broken one off I received a replacment. Im seriously shocked by the speed, quality and painless way EVERY transaction i've had to do with these guys has been pulled off. I received the original fast and that was in christmas season. They've responded to email fast, been polite and seriously have not put one foot wrong.

If anyone in the UK is looking to buy a gp2x I seriously recommend buying from the guys at http://www.gbax.com / http://www.gp2x.co.uk (both same website) - I really cant recommend them enough ^^

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Posted: 6th Jan 2006 14:11 Edited at: 6th Jan 2006 14:12
yes but at leass than 10% speed and only some games... Still if they could get them both working close to 100% of games and 100% of speed, sound etc that would be a HUGE achievemnt

Seph - wow thats fantasic news - did they replace it for free??


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Posted: 7th Jan 2006 17:13
i buy from gbax.com all the time, gp2x, gp32, even some flash tools for gameboy

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