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Geek Culture / Anyone here tried Second Life?

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Jeku
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Posted: 7th Jan 2006 12:08 Edited at: 7th Jan 2006 12:12
I've been farting around with this MMOG since last month, because I enjoy life games (i.e. Animal Crossing).

The thing that most appeals to my programming blood is the fact that you can literally create anything you can imagine in your head using their powerful built-in scripting language. It's like C++, and there are millions of objects in the game already.

Once you create your cool item, you can sell it for their currency at your price, and then cash out to US$ whenever you feel like it. Currently it's around $20US for 5000 Linden dollars.

You can also buy land where you can build whatever you want--- houses, cars, games, stuff like that. And you can fully customize your player ala Sims 2, and I've already spent 2500 on skin, clothes, furniture, and bling-bling.

There's just over 100,000 players and apparently almost 200 of them are generating revenues of over $1000US a month. Awesome thing is you can use your in-game revenue to pay your monthly bill.

The basic membership is free I think, and then it costs $9.95 a month to have the option of buying/selling land. There's no goal in this game, other than if you're ambitious (like myself) you can start with next to nothing and build a large empire.

If there are other people here who play Second Life, let me know your name in game and I'll show you my property. I found some choice land with nice waterfront view. My neighbour is another newbish player and we're going to try and purchase the other piece of land next to mine and go into business of some kind.

http://www.secondlife.com

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Posted: 7th Jan 2006 22:15
Wow thats great I'd like to make my living making objects etc for people on these If I had the time I'd defineitly try something like this - but I won't as with games like this I know I'd spend all my time there and go bankrupt in real life GREAT idea for a game though


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Posted: 7th Jan 2006 23:13
I tried it a while back, though it didn't run very well at all on my comp (the draw distance was terrible). I agree that it's a really good idea, though from my experience there's not alot of point playing the free version as you can't build anywhere other than special public areas (and I don't think you were able to keep any of what you made).

I might try it out again sometime in the future if they have improved some of the technical problems (it ran terribly slow as well, and it's not like I have an old computer or anything - Geforce 6600GT, 2.somethingGhz P4, 2mb connection, etc).
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Posted: 8th Jan 2006 01:11 Edited at: 8th Jan 2006 01:23
I just signed up - gonna have a play around. I like that it works on the Mac too Although my iBook does struggle a little... My SL Name is 'LordPleaseHave Mercy'

EDIT: Ok, my iBook really doesn't like it... Time to break out the big gun - my PC (4400+ X2 with a 7800GTX... That should do the trick! Seems like a 1.13Ghz PowerPC with a 9250 32Mb Radeon isn't quite enough).

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Posted: 8th Jan 2006 03:54
I heard of second life around 5 months ago. I was kinda mad when I found out about it b/c a lot of the aspects of second life were along the aspects of the game I am making now, and I was making my game months before I had heard of second life. Now people are going to probably accuse me of copying second life's idea. My game actually has goals and plots and real gameplay though, so I guess I'm ok with it. I just hate the fact that the new ideas I thought I was putting in my game were already in use by somebody else. But oh well that's life.

Anyway obviously I think it's a great idea being able to contribute to the world and the economy is pretty cool. I tried to play it once and I think I had technical difficulties or they wanted my credit card to play the free version. If it's free, then you don't need my credit card, duh.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2006 08:10 Edited at: 8th Jan 2006 09:26
Quote: "LordPleaseHave Mercy"


Aahhhh I got an email today saying you've signed on for the first time, but I had no idea who you were. Now I do Are you going to buy first land? The developers give 512m^2 of land for just L512 for first time players. You can only get the deal once.

When I sign in again I will get the coordinates of my land to you. Have fun

EDIT: And just so you know, in order to have land you need a premium membership. And there's land fees too--- which run about $5 extra a month. It's still cheaper than WOW, and with land you can have privacy and build your dream home. I'm using mine right now to store my scripts and objects I'm working on

EDIT 2:

Thanks for the referral! They gave me an extra L1000 for it My name is Retro Nabob by the way.

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Posted: 8th Jan 2006 10:34
I read about Second Life all the time in The Escapist, sounds very intriguing.


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Posted: 8th Jan 2006 11:07
Quote: "Eh, its allright I guess. Its way too laggy and slow for me to get into for longer than 20 minutes. Within the first 10 minutes I already came into a glass house of naked dancing people, wtf?
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It's not laggy for me at all. Perhaps it's your computer?

And as for the naked people, Second Life has a large sex trade (as in real life)--- I mean it basically emulates real life, or First Life as it's referred to in the game If you venture into the Mature areas, you can expect to see lots of explicit things. If you're offended by it just stick to the PG areas (of which there is tons of BTW).

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Posted: 8th Jan 2006 13:07
I read about second life too, and I even tried to register but they ask too much information, so SirFire, go and make one without so many information needed and I'll be first one to register... : )

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Posted: 8th Jan 2006 13:25
sounds even lamer than when i 1st heard about it :p, but hey you can make easy cash from it!

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Posted: 8th Jan 2006 13:58 Edited at: 8th Jan 2006 14:26
Jeku - what times are you normally on? I'm playing right now, but dont know for how long.

EDIT: What exactly is the point in this game?

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 04:36
That looks like a cool game, I think I'll buy it in a few months.

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 05:39
People in this game are extremely generous. On my first day in, a woman met me at the door and gave me 5k, which amounts to around $20US. Today when I went into this giant TV store, where there were about a dozen small to large TVs playing music videos, the owner gave me a box of DJ TVs, speakers, and accessories, a 2500 value, for nothing!

Another cool thing I found is that there are many land owners who have 100ft TV screens showing full length movies! You'd think it would be crappy quality, but it's actually very good! Last night a club owner played Kung Fu Hustle, complete with theatre chairs and free popcorn. This didn't cost anything to watch, by the way.

And I found my way into a casino today and played a few rounds of blackjack, winning every single game for a total of about 2000 extra dollars. I'm having a really good time in this game in case you didn't notice

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 07:05 Edited at: 9th Jan 2006 07:06
Uh-oh, here comes the addiction.


I tried registering but for some reason it wouldnt let me use my mobile phone as verification.

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 07:28
I went to one place and tried to get into a lift too quick. I got jammed between the inner and outer doors. The lift took off - the collision routines failed and I ended up falling miles down to what I can only describe as Earth from Heaven! I had to teleport back up!

I couldn't use my mobile either :-(

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 09:45
It looks great, but I can't register my Solo card, and have no mobile phone.

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 10:37
your uncle might want to talk to you

here he comes now!

hey nephew!
(greed says in a monotone voice) hey uncle sam.

(uncle sam with gun pointed at greed) hey, listen , i need a few bombs and some band-aids but im kinda short can you give me some dough.

(greed reluctantly but well aware of the gun weilded by uncle sam) sure how much?

(uncle sam) oh not much only about 55%.
That's okay with you right (uncle sam waves gun to remind you not to complain about the huge wad of money)

yeah fine, see you again!

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 15:03
my sl char. name is Danny Backbite...
ive been playing for like a year....
its pretty addicting...
because im a particle maker and i sell my L$$$ for about 120$ a month...its a real easy way if you can build objects on their system to make some money for somthing you need in Rl

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 17:48 Edited at: 9th Jan 2006 17:51
Bloodeath - Nice to see somebody making money here, and it looks like you're making enough to pay for your account Can you give me the location of your storefront?

I created a really simple game last night. Basically it's a Guess My Number style where the computer chooses a number between 1 and 1000 and gives you 9 guesses to get it right.

I am trying to calculate the odds to determine whether I should make it a betting game, where you put down your wager at the beginning to win double back.

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@Nicholas - Can't seem to figure out how to add you as a friend without actually meeting you in the game. I'm usually playing off and on from around 7pm until 12am, inbetween real life crap like buying groceries and cleaning the house

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 17:59
is that 7pm -> 12am Canada time or GMT (I'm GMT)?

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 18:14
so, what's the basic version all about? why is it free? just wondering if there is some hidden fee or some hidden trial time

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Quote: "Canada time"
There is no one "Canada Time", we have about 6 Time Zones.Considering we're about as big as Russia.

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 22:01 Edited at: 9th Jan 2006 22:02
Quote: "is that 7pm -> 12am Canada time or GMT (I'm GMT)?"


Hmmm don't know. I'm GMT-8, or, Pacific Time. Tonight I'm going to see a movie, though, so I don't know when I'll be back online.

BTW I just made a betting version of my game, so if you'd like to check it out, teleport to my location and play. Just please don't win too much

Quote: "so, what's the basic version all about? why is it free? just wondering if there is some hidden fee or some hidden trial time"


There's no hidden fees that I know of. If you want to build your own objects, you will need land to put them on, and that's when you need a premium membership ($9.95 a month). Then you're entitled to your first land which is 512m^2.

Linden Labs (the developers) have opened up the Basic membership for free since around September of last year.

My neighbour (in the game) and I are going to purchase a new larger piece of land where we'll be selling scripts from. I'll let you know where we end up, but my home will always remain where it is now.

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 22:39
ok, there's the catch then. To build my objects, i have to pay for the game makes sense no playee for meee

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 22:57
but you can still fly around the land and play the scripts and games. For example, I started with $250 and now I have $280 after dropping to $200 when I was in a casino.

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 22:57
Well, that's a lie. There's tons of sandbox regions where the developers let you build and create things for free. Just, there's no privacy. If you don't care, then stick with the free Basic membership and build in the sandbox areas :-P

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 23:20
I just flew to where you said you were meant to be and I ended up near HK Designs and a Slopco factory!!!

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Posted: 9th Jan 2006 23:33
Sorry Nicholas, when I re-relogin tonight I'll let you know my home's coordinates. Did you buy first land yet?

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Posted: 10th Jan 2006 00:48
Very tempted too - although I'm not 100% sure how much I'll use it to make it worth while. I have very little time as it is I'd certainly buy it if I could also manage it via a web interface too.

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Posted: 10th Jan 2006 02:21
Just make sure you ban Lazarus Divine from your property. He is using extortion-like tactics to get money. Basically he buys small chunks of land, around 10m^2 by 10m^2, just enough to stick huge annoying anti-war billboards.

It's pissing residents off because many of them now have these huge signs blocking their views, and the only way to get rid of it is to buy the land from him at huge amounts (over 5000 which equates to around $20US). It's ridiculous. So anyways, yeah, just ban him from snooping around your property.

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i dont have a shop.
i go to maturesandbox owned by anshe chung and sell there
im on a basic acc. so i dont own any land...but im not complaning i use my money on stuff like clothes

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Wait, in thi sgame do u make real money or is it money made like the Sims
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Posted: 10th Jan 2006 07:44
Quote: "Wait, in thi sgame do u make real money or is it money made like the Sims"


Well $L5000 translates to roughly $20US on the Lindex exchange market (owned and operated by the developers). It's like a real stock price that goes up and down with the market. I've purchased several things for over $L1000, so if you make something cool you could probably pull in some good money.

Of course, like any building tools, half the fun it making it work

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Posted: 12th Jan 2006 01:40
Can I ask who WAC (something or other) is? I got L$1000 for referring him/her, and thank you

We should start a group (basically a guild) in SL. We need at least three members, and we'll have the group name above our name in the game. I'll front the cost, which is only $L100. Any good ideas for a group name?

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Quote: "Can I ask who WAC (something or other) is?"

WAK, that was me . Unfortunately, as much as I'd to join a group, I'm on a Teen Second Life account...
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Posted: 13th Jan 2006 21:09
Allen Wake, whoever you are, thanks for using me as a referral. I bought a nice Japanese bungalow cottage to put my crap because I don't have the modelling skills to make a nice enough home for myself :-P

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i'll try to join with the free basic thing... (can i give you a referral through that? or do i need to pay before you get anything?)

it sounds real cool, programming + game + Kung Fu Hustle == cool

i need to go to class now, i'll try it out when i get back
(but i'm too poor to ever do the subscription thing)

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Posted: 13th Jan 2006 21:31 Edited at: 13th Jan 2006 21:32
@Jeku - No problem, sorry forgot to post here it was me.

Anyway since it had been a while since I last tried it I thought I would try again. Last time I tried the free account wasn't free you only got a 7 day trial and that coupled with the lag I was having is why I cancelled my account. It's certainly seems to have improved, the help island bit at the start wasn't there last time I tried and I found it really helped you get into the game (plus free stuff is always good! ).

I was having great fun flying up as high as I could go and then falling out of the sky in a giant chicken suit in front of unsuspecting people.
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Quote: "i'll try to join with the free basic thing... (can i give you a referral through that? or do i need to pay before you get anything?)"


I don't think anyone I've referred so far has upgraded to a Premium account, so the free one should work. And thanks

Quote: "I was having great fun flying up as high as I could go and then falling out of the sky in a giant chicken suit in front of unsuspecting people."


That sounds hilarious! There are many... ummm... "furry" people here who enjoy walking around in bear outfits and the like. But a chicken outfit-- that's funny!

My neighbour gave me a script that I attached to my land, so whenever anyone travels into my territory it instant messages me--- so cool And I'm building a store here where I'll sell a few games to casinos and the like. Hopefully there will be some takers

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lol, yeah unfortunatly it seems one or two people seem to mistake you for a furry if you go around in a chicken suit (one person gave me about 20 different animal outfits for free) - I need a script which places a great big sign above my head with "I'm NOT a furry, I'm just wearing this outfit because it looks funny!" written on it
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Posted: 13th Jan 2006 22:13 Edited at: 13th Jan 2006 22:14
Hahaha--- it's surprisingly easy to make wearable signs in this game. Just make your sign and drag it onto your head. I believe you can do it that way (if you're serious :-P).

I just finished a script over lunch break at work that makes the windows in my store cycle through colours. It looks pretty cool and uses a timer to update every 0.25 seconds through the RGB colours.

Just too addicting to make scripts

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Posted: 13th Jan 2006 22:34 Edited at: 13th Jan 2006 22:44
wow, that scripting stuff sounds pretty neato

[edit] does it charge anything when you use the mobile option?

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Posted: 13th Jan 2006 23:05
Hmm not sure, never heard of the mobile option. What is it?

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uhh, they send some instant message thing to your cell phone so you can activate... instead of credit card stuff...

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I used that option, and didn't get charged, besides the normal text messaging rate.
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hmph, well i doubt i could convince my parents to even pay a tiny fee for a game called "second life"...

maybe because it has programming in it though...

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Well you can get the free Basic membership then, and build all of your scripts and objects in the government run sandboxes. If you make anything cool and sellable, you can earn in-game L$ and use that towards your Premium membership fee (so you can buy land).

If you're not interested in buying land, then there's probably no reason to upgrade to a Premium membership.

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yeah but i have to get the Basic membership in the first place, and to do that i have to either incur a small fee for the mobile phone thing or do the credit card thing... neither of which my parents would want to do i'm sure

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Quote: "There's just over 100,000 players and apparently almost 200 of them are generating revenues of over $1000US a month."


And that's the hardcore players? It really doesn't pay too well does it

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beats flipping burgers...

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