Sorry your browser is not supported!

You are using an outdated browser that does not support modern web technologies, in order to use this site please update to a new browser.

Browsers supported include Chrome, FireFox, Safari, Opera, Internet Explorer 10+ or Microsoft Edge.

Geek Culture / Building a PC, some advice needed :]

Author
Message
Oddmind
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Jun 2004
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posted: 13th Jan 2006 04:11
Link
Im thinking about trading in my Persario v2205 and build a nice gaming PC to use for gamin/game dev related stuff. I love my laptop but ive heard that I could build a great PC for the money i spent on this. I cant even really play counter strike source on this thing without lag due to video card issues. I dont really know where to start, I do have a sapphire Radeon 9200 I could use for it, and im pretty sure we have plenty of sound cards. I'm pretty sure im going to need a new motherboard, but i dont know whats good for the purpose im trying to use it for. I;m lookin at 1000 USD max. What should be my priorities? should i get a motherboard to match the cards I want or the cards to match the motherboard i might get a good deal on? please guide me in the right direction.

formerly KrazyJimmy
Back to top
Profile PM
The CodeSmith
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 28th Nov 2003
Location:
Posted: 13th Jan 2006 04:52
Link
How much money are you looking to spend, and name ALL (list is best) the parts that you already have please.

I'm not who you think...
Back to top
Profile PM
Oddmind
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Jun 2004
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posted: 13th Jan 2006 05:16 Edited at: 13th Jan 2006 05:17
Link
I mentioned i had about 1000 dollars... I have a Sapphire Radeon 9200 and dont worry about the sound card... I'm SURE we have one . These things are lying around our house like girls in flava flaves mansion. I believe i mentioned all of this in my post but I'm still thankfull for any help that i get on this matter . I'm also not looking for anything bigger than a 40 gig hard drive... How much stuff does that leave me to get? I have

Moniter

Keyboard

Mouse

Graphics card (sapphire radeon 9200)

sound card

speakers

thats about it.

formerly KrazyJimmy
Back to top
Profile PM
Hoopkid ups
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 24th Nov 2004
Location:
Posted: 13th Jan 2006 05:33 Edited at: 13th Jan 2006 05:35
Link
You can get a very nice system for less than $1000 since you're building it yourself. The first thing you need to decide is whether you want it to be an Intel or AMD system. Then, based off that decision, you can decide on a motherboard and processor. Make sure you get a motherboard with a PCI Express slot, but other than that, any video card will work in the motherboard, as long as the PSU supports it.

If you want some suggestions, here are some parts I picked out for a friend of mine a few weeks ago:

Intel BOXD915GEVLK ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813121248
$110

Intel Pentium 4 530J 800MHz FSB LGA 775 Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116200
$190

RAIDMAX ATX-868WUP Blue Computer Case With Side Panel Window
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811156137
$53

Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 120GB 3.5" IDE Ultra ATA100 Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148022
$86

CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145526
$66

LITE-ON Black ATAPI / E-IDE DVD Burner Model SHM-160P6S
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106009
$41

GIGABYTE Geforce 6800GS GV-NX68G256D-B Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814125218
$190

It all adds up to about $740, not including an OS.
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
JoelJ
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 8th Sep 2003
Location: UTAH
Posted: 13th Jan 2006 05:38
Link
stick with an AMD 64bit processor

I'll get cha something good put together when I have time

Back to top
Profile PM Website
The CodeSmith
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 28th Nov 2003
Location:
Posted: 13th Jan 2006 06:24 Edited at: 13th Jan 2006 06:25
Link
Like Joel said, get an AMD. At the moment I'd say that they have Intel beat hands down.
Oh and I misunderstood where you said how much money you were spending in your first post, my fault not yours.

I'm not who you think...
Back to top
Profile PM
Eric T
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 7th Apr 2003
Location: My location is where I am at this time.
Posted: 13th Jan 2006 07:34 Edited at: 13th Jan 2006 07:40
Link
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103533
203$

ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail (excellent onboard sound on this baby BTW)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131569
88$

Sapphire Radeon x800GTO2 256mb (Unlockable to x850pe specs) PCI-e 16x
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102646
200$

CORSAIR XMS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145450
100$

Maxtor MaXLine Plus III 250GB 3.5" IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144236
100$

NEC Black IDE/ATAPI DVD Burner Model ND-3550A - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152058
40$

RAIDMAX ATX-868WUP Blue Computer Case With Side Panel Window (I like this case, so i'm stealing it from his setup)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811156137
$53

As for the rest of the, mouse keyboard monitor etc. I dunno.

http://blog.myspace.com/erict
*Boom HEADSHOT!*
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Lukas W
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 5th Sep 2003
Location: Sweden
Posted: 13th Jan 2006 08:41 Edited at: 13th Jan 2006 08:42
Link
a little tip of advice when it comes to gaming computers:

get AMD 64bit
get a PCI-Express graphics card with SM3.0 (min 6600GT)
get 1gig of DDR3 ram
get a 250gb Hardisk
preferably the new Creactive X-FI sound card
annd a sick surround speaker system
edit, and a dvd player. the newer games are dvd format


The Cowboy Game progress 17% (bullets)
HorizShootiz progress 5% (weapon engine)
Back to top
Profile PM Email
mm0zct
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 18th Nov 2003
Location: scotland-uk
Posted: 13th Jan 2006 14:55 Edited at: 13th Jan 2006 14:57
Link
the previously posted board has sata so get a sata hard disk not an ide, the speed incerease is noticable, especially when loading games like half-life2.

graphics wise there's an ATI sapphire X1600 256mb out fairly recently that looks good, get the xt version if you can afford or or even look to the X1800 series or nvidia 6800 series

http://www.microdirect.co.uk/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductID=10165&GroupID=1091

i know it's a UK site but i think this is a good board if you have a graphics card already that's agp and want to hold off upgrading, although not really relevant to you because you need a new graphics card

bonuses of that board:
sata-2, 300mbps if you get a sata-2 hard disk, more than double ide speeds and potentially double sata-1
pci-e x16 and agp if you want to stick an older card in for some reason eg there's a problem and you want to test if it's the graphics card.
has 7.1 onboard surround sound
up to 4GB ddr400
supports dual core
has an expansion slot for their 940 socket expander so if you ever want an opteron you just need to buy a small card that slots in instead of a whole new motherboard

http://ccgi.lochviewwest.plus.com/design1
AMD athlon 64 3000+, 1GB ddr400, abit kv8, 400GB total hdd, ati radeon 9800se 128mb, 2x17" tft(@1280x1024).
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Oddmind
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Jun 2004
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posted: 13th Jan 2006 22:36 Edited at: 13th Jan 2006 23:08
Link
Ha!! wow thanks guys, I will definately be using this information when I'm looking for parts. Wow this is so helpful I didnt even know where to start. I can get an uber PC for under 1000 bucks! sh*t dude.

When im looking for a case to match my motherboard assuming i get the one above the one above, what should i try and match up?

EDIT: I'm looking at this HD, i dont need that many memories :\.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822152023

And yes im looking for an AMD system.

formerly KrazyJimmy
Back to top
Profile PM
CattleRustler
Retired Moderator
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 8th Aug 2003
Location: case modding at overclock.net
Posted: 14th Jan 2006 00:03
Link
be aware of psu wattage when getting a case, vs. the video card psu requirements

SORRY UR NOT COMEDIAN
Back to top
Profile PM
Oddmind
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Jun 2004
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posted: 14th Jan 2006 01:50
Link
the case im looking at is 430 but i cant find the requirements on this page...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102646#DetailSpecs

im getting what eric T sugested... the Sapphire Radeon x800GTO2 256mb (Unlockable to x850pe specs) PCI-e 16x

should i change cases?

This is what im looking at now. I modded Eric T's post to suit my needs. I got a different case and HDD. I think thats all...

Processor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103533

MoBo

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131569

RAM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145450


HDD

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822145082


Gfx Card

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102646


Case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811138060

formerly KrazyJimmy
Back to top
Profile PM
Oddmind
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 20th Jun 2004
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Posted: 14th Jan 2006 03:01
Link
aye! I checked with the pops and it looks like were going to put my laptop on Ebay and use the funds plus some extra from my own stash if need be. Thank you so much guys, I'm going to get my pal who builds computers to help me out with "quality control" and making sure all that stuff is compatible. I cant stress to you guys how thankful I am for helping me on my next step in getting more serious about game development.

formerly KrazyJimmy
Back to top
Profile PM
Codelike
18
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 13th Dec 2005
Location: DBP - Scouseland
Posted: 17th Jan 2006 15:10
Link
A quality PSU wouldn't go amiss, either. I'd look at either an Antec Truepower2 550w, or similar, if you'd like future-proofing for SLi. Frankly, a good PSU doesn't go amiss even if you aren't planning on using SLI, it'll help to better stabilise the voltages going into the components, make for a quieter machine & give the electronics a longer lifespan.

I have an XP3000+, 1.5gb DDR333, a 6600GT and I'm programming 3k text-based exe's?!
Back to top
Profile PM
Back to top

Login to post a reply

Server time is: 2024-11-16 11:06:15
Your offset time is: 2024-11-16 11:06:15