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Dodic
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Posted: 16th Jan 2006 06:52
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I found only a little about it on tgc site ,i don`t see a forum department for it or anything at all ...

why is it so ?

Does anyone have it , is it good ?


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its not that advanced... all the games it makes look exactly the same... no trial version, ive heard its crap but some people like it.

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Kangaroo2 BETA2
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Its AWFUL. Really. How many time do we have to answer this question?

Seriously, if you have DBC, DBP or FPSC any of them are a million times better than t3dgm. The screenshots and included models look nice on the box and website, but seriously I can't recommend this. I bought it for 10pounds from a budget shop and still felt ripped off A real wasted opportunity By FPSC instead - or better still, DBP


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i like t3dgm it's ok for real real basic games but yeah get dbp of fpsc

http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/csimon/spain03/days2_3.htm << where i went for my holiday or www.portaventura.es
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Posted: 16th Jan 2006 17:53
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I wanted it when I was younger now I matured.

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Posted: 16th Jan 2006 18:26
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I've got 3DGM / DBC / and DBP. I would recommend getting 3DGM only if you want to get about a 100+ models and lots of GFXs for use in DBC or DBP. 3DGM is basically the great grandfather of FPSC. It says you can make any type of game you want but it is really a doom style level editor for FPS games using different models. So like I said, get it for the media if you need or want them, otherwise, get DBC.

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Posted: 16th Jan 2006 18:29
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lets put it this way... Chuck Norris uses DBPro.

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Kangaroo2 BETA2
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"I would recommend getting 3DGM only if you want to get about a 100+ models and lots of GFXs for use in DBC or DBP"

NO unfortunately you are not allowed to use the models in db / dbp - they are NOT royalty free to use. If they were I would have not felt as ripped off - but I worte to tgc and asked them if I could use them in dark basic projects and got told a very firm no


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Quote: "lets put it this way... Chuck Norris uses DBPro. "

lets put it this way... Chuck Norris sucks.

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rofl

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Dodic
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Posted: 16th Jan 2006 19:40
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Yeah , he is a bit boring by now...


thank`s for help , so i shouldn`t buy it , ok ...

i just had to ask becouse i found so little about it...


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I'm pretty sure the reaons there isn't a forum or anything is because its so limited. There would be nothing to write about - even a non-trained monkey could use it - trouble is you can't make anything good in it


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Can it read 3d models or texture that are not his ? (i mean like .x or .3ds files , or .jpg and .bmp texture files)

can it read models like that ?

And music , can it read music files ?


p.s. i kind of Already decided to buy Kangaroo`s Quikly Game Pro , but i`m not sure i`l be able to buy it from Serbia...


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AAAUUCHH! i just found you hafe to BUY a licence to sell your games !

Single Product CD License
This License allows to you to sell one (1) game created with The 3D Gamemaker at retail level. This includes selling the game on your own web site or via a store/distribution network.

$ Dollar € Euros £ Sterling Click to Buy
Price: $99.00 €88.00 £61.00

The 3D Gamemaker Single License Version is a specially produced CD and is delivered by postal mail.
It is not available to download.



Unlimited Product CD License
Unlimited Product CD License
This License allows to you to sell an unlimited number of games created with The 3D Gamemaker at retail level. This includes selling the games on your own web site or via a store/distribution network.

$ Dollar € Euros £ Sterling Click to Buy
Price: $500.00 €444.00 £310.00

The 3D Gamemaker Unlimited License Version is a specially produced CD and is delivered by postal mail.
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€444.00 to sell untlimited games in that ???


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Posted: 17th Jan 2006 09:23
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Yeah, but then why should someone be able to makes money with something like T3DGM, it's designed for kids to make games with.

DBPro, FPSC and DBC have no licencing fee's though.


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Dodic
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Posted: 17th Jan 2006 12:04
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Well , it`s a bit wierd.....


Anyways i chose the Fpsc and Dbc for my shopping list.

And i hafe to ask this one question about fpsc : as i heard , you can not use models that go with fpsc in any other project , but can you use all the models that go with fpsc in your freeware or commercial games ?


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what is the point of making a game that you really didn't make?
buy DB or DBPro


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It isn't that good, I was fooled into buying it, I though yeh woot make a nice FPS or RPG, nope, the FPS's weren't very good, and RPG? Nope. And when you export to .exe the .exe file take aaages to load.

Alternatively you will be better off with either FPS creator, DB or Quikly Game Pro (or that dream creator thats in BETA)


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Posted: 17th Jan 2006 18:49 Edited at: 17th Jan 2006 18:49
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Quote: "what is the point of making a game that you really didn't make?
buy DB or DBPro "


True.

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Quote: "what is the point of making a game that you really didn't make?
buy DB or DBPro"


To play devil's advocate, DB and DBP also do a *lot* of stuff for you in the background. So in the truest form, you didn't have to do a lot of work there either.


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Well true , i already chose Fpsc + Dark Basic Classic(electronic) and possibly Dark Matter later , but i like to model my self more , but then again , i don`t know to animate 3d charaters and make them so nice...but then again many people ALREADY used models from Dark Mater , shouldn`t it be strange to many games have same models ? then again , i don`t care , i just want to enjoy , practice ....


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"but can you use all the models that go with fpsc in your freeware or commercial games ?" In dbc or dbp games? NO You can't, only in FPSC games. I think thats a really silly limitation as lots of people would find them useful

Sepp "Alternatively you will be better off with either FPS creator, DB or Quikly Game Pro"
Thanks man ! Of course I agree with you on all three


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Yeah , i`l also probably buy quikly , when it`s fully released , and when buying using internet from my Country Is supported .


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why cant you use the t3gm textures? the players look like crap but the worlds are pretty good, why cant i use the textures in my worlds? i mean, you cant make a sale worthy game with tg3m thats a fact. it is fun to play with and a decent example of camera angles and such, but is not capable of producing sale worthy games.

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"why cant i use the textures in my worlds?"
Because they are copyrighted and when you ask permission to use them they say no


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Quote: "To play devil's advocate, DB and DBP also do a *lot* of stuff for you in the background. So in the truest form, you didn't have to do a lot of work there either."


I don't really agree with that. If I painted the Mona Lisa, nobody would say that I didn't make the canvas, and frame, and paints, and brushes, and turps, and cloths so I had a lot of help. Yeah DB is easy, but the games are all your own work.

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Quote: "I don't really agree with that. If I painted the Mona Lisa, nobody would say that I didn't make the canvas, and frame, and paints, and brushes, and turps, and cloths so I had a lot of help. Yeah DB is easy, but the games are all your own work."


Not really a good analogy, as the frame, canvas and paints would be more like the computer, monitor and windows xp Using DB or DBP is more akin to doing the woman in Mona Lisa and having another painter do the backdrop (stream, mountains, sky, etc.).

And I guess my sentence was a little put out of context. By me saying "you didn't have to do a lot of work" didn't mean that a game isn't a lot of work, but rather DBP does "a lot of work you don't have to do."


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OK then, but you could also say then that even the developers of DB were helped a lot by using C, because it wasn't binary.

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Yes that is true

If you think about it, even DirectX is a tremendous help, as you should know, having worked on games in the era where you had to write code for various types of video cards

I remember having to run a VESA command-line driver to get the "high-res" graphics in my DOS games.


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HAHA ^^

You said "Hi Res" and "DOS" in the same sentence . youre a funny man jeku, i do totally agree, as i learned a bit of c++ before i learned DBPRo. I had some friends try DBPRo after erading some testimonials or some shizz, and they said "this is hard as hell, the website says its easy!" well yea tryy C++ i said.

"hard" is really really n obsolete statement as it would be determined by anything and anyones opinion. DBPro does do alot of stuff for you so you dont HAVE to do, but usually it also gives the advanced user hte option to change this to his/her preference...which i like

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hm..it looks like i`m lost..i thought this was thread about gm3d ..

my posts have been read or opened
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Its ok. But dont expect to sell anything you make with it. I just used it for practice and to amaze my brother. Oh yes and now i use it to make porno games .

Your signature has been erased by a mod, because the mod was so jealous of it that he couldnt bare looking at it.
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lol um how? I guess you could texture Jenna Jameson's fact onto the walking tomato


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lol

where i went on holiday to
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