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I've always pondered this can someone answer my question?

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c++ i think... and btw, "asm" and "machine code" both refer to assembly i beleive.

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Posted: 19th Jan 2006 03:55 Edited at: 19th Jan 2006 05:33
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Machine code is binary code

001001011001

And if you opem an application already compiled to it (.exe) , you`l see it like this : (binary part)



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Posted: 19th Jan 2006 03:55 Edited at: 19th Jan 2006 04:03
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nope, asm is short opcodes, and machine language is "101000110110011"

Quote: "0010012011001

And if you opem an application already compiled to it (.exe) , you`l see it like this :

"


um binary has 1 and 0 not 2 and youll actually see MZ????????THIS PROGRAM CANNOT BE RUN IN DOS MODE??

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Posted: 19th Jan 2006 04:10 Edited at: 19th Jan 2006 04:10
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i know machine language is technically "01010110" (binary) and such, but you cannot program in that more often than not, when people say "machine code" they mean assembly language, which is the lowest level language that you can program in.

just imagine a simple peice of executable code to access the memory in "machine code" (binary)

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sorry , but machine code is machine code , assembly is assembly...

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yea and if people cannot program machine code directly where did the first code come from?

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Posted: 19th Jan 2006 05:28
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I think that people actually possibly ccoded binary at oooold times..



But fist code was totaly different in construction that the ones now...

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It was written in DarkBasic Professional

Hehe, no it was written in Visual C++ 6 and DirectX 8.1


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Well, for your dear computer everything is binary. Executables, data, everything stored in your compy is binary. But that's just a number system and not machine code. Machine code is a set of instructions (numbers that happen to be stored in binary form in your computer), that the CPU can understand. When you want to "write in machine language" it wouldn't matter much what number system you use, as they're all interchangable. Assembly languages are mnemonic representation of CPU instructions, so instread of writing 197 (or in hex C5, or in binary 11000101) you write CMP (which again stands for compare Z-Page on an 6502 CPU).
Bottom line: machine language is not binary, it is in stored in binary form.


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Question is answered thank you John Y best of luck with Omega Basic.

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I thought DBC was written in Delphi...?


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Posted: 24th Jan 2006 09:28 Edited at: 24th Jan 2006 09:30
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Quote: "I thought DBC was written in Delphi...?"


hm...i never thouth it was...i always guessed it was in c++ , though , about a few months back , i thouth everything 3d is written in c++...

Quote: "It was written in DarkBasic Professional

Hehe, no it was written in Visual C++ 6 and DirectX 8.1"


well fps creator is/was written in DarkBasic Professional..(i think at least)

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And Windows was coded in Visual Basic.

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I'm almost dead positive that DBC was written in Delphi, and DBP was written in C++. Ask this in Geek Culture, you'll all see...


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Nope, it's Play Basic that's written in Delphi. Both DBC and DBP are written with c++. I don't think anyone at TGC knows Delphi.


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Quote: " I don't think anyone at TGC knows Delphi.
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you can not know that... becouse people ussualy know more than one language , ok , not fully , but it is VERY possible that they do..

Quote: "And Windows was coded in Visual Basic."


i`m not sure what that`s suppost to mean , if that means that he dissagre with what i said that Fpsc was made in Dbpro , then how come you can download fpsc`s source code for Dark Basic professional ?

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Quote: "And Windows was coded in Visual Basic."

It was meant as a joke.

Maybe what you're thinking of that was written in Delphi was DarkEDIT and also the default IDE for DBP. I'm more than certain they were both written with Delphi. But the DBC and DBP compilers were written with C++.


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Something important was written in Delphi. I have no other explanation for my obsession with it.


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Posted: 25th Jan 2006 21:07 Edited at: 25th Jan 2006 21:11
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maybe because it's one of the best higher level development tools out there, bar none...
... if programming in Pascal doesn't bother you

furthermore... don't believe what any of these guys are telling you... DarkBASIC was developed using 3DRAD!!!

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Posted: 25th Jan 2006 23:34 Edited at: 25th Jan 2006 23:37
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*smiling* Imagine how cooked those dear old guys were when they started programming all the languages using just 1s and 0s ... *sigh*... God bless their souls...

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Weren't both DBC and DBPro written in plain old C?

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Quote: " Weren't both DBC and DBPro written in plain old C?"


DUHHHHHHHHHHHH. DBC was written in Windows Word, and DBPro was made in Paint (and is ultimately a three-year-old drawing).

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Quote: "DBPro was made in Paint"




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Quote: "DBC was written in Windows Word, and DBPro was made in Paint "


I didn`t knew dbc was better

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Quote: "I didn`t knew dbc was better "


Although Word has the capability to publish better material than paint that does not mean what was written (in this case DBclassic) would be a superior work mearly a work that "could" contain more. It all goes to the writer (Shaksphere had a quill and parchment, JK Rowlings probabaly has Word..something or other, yet the works are so far apart it is to laugh {so I will, Ha!}) NOI.
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Indeed, Paint supports pixel shaders.

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Sorry you need to go download art faktorrey then. It should do it for you and Blankydude oops its Pilchard Gravy.

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Ive written dbp on gameboy

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binary: 1010
decimal: 10
hexidecimal: A

machine code is HEX and binary, but ASM assembles into them.

ever seen a .COM or .BIN file? those are binary files.
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Quote: "Ive written dbp on gameboy
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cool , giv' me , i have gameboy...



(how fun would it be to code 3d stuff on gameboy , huh ?)

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DarkBASIC was programmed in Guppy Basic...It's a paradox...

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lol .
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its written in Delphi and visual c++

"C:\Program Files\Dark Basic Software\Dark Basic\extras\YourOwnCommands"
if you look there you can write your own commands, also dark basic uses some C++ coading such as "suspend for key"
it uses dll's loaded by a base compiler, and a variable system that changes commands like "print "" " to "cout << "";" which creates a simple c++ 3d compiler that takes advantage of direct x commands
if someone can prove me wrong thats fine if they can show me evidence i will agree with them, but untill then this is what i think

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DarkBASIC Professional...version 1.0 Alpha. ()

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My computers teacher made us draw our company logos in MS Word (I'm not kidding. I have the dumbest computers teacher ever )

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The Delphi stuff in the extras folder is just there to provide a template for developers wishing to write DLLs for DBC using Delphi.

Why a folder for Delphi? Well, Guy Savoie, the mind behind DarkEDIT and the official DBPro IDE wrote his programs in Delphi. Guy worked closely with the guys at TGC (then called DarkBASIC Software Ltd) and as such a lot of his stuff made it into their official software distributions.

As one of the original DB classic beta testers, I can assure you that DBC was written entirely in C++.

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Quote: "It was written in DarkBasic Professional "

very witty

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Well i forget where I heard this from but I thought that dark basic's IDE was written in delphi, and the rest was written in c++ dx 8.1


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Quote: "DarkBASIC Professional...version 1.0 Alpha. ( )"


Good one.

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Even though the awesomely cool DSG has informed us of the sad truth (not Delphi), that's what they did for the actual exe and the bytecodes.
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No, DB Pro was made in an exe.



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There are 10 types of people in the world.
Those that understand binary, and those that don't!!!!!!!!!!

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:-P And I have heard that about 20 times already(not in binary)

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