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DarkBASIC Discussion / GLauncher (launcher for your games within windows enviroment !)

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Dodic
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Posted: 20th Jan 2006 12:51 Edited at: 20th Jan 2006 18:36



Game Launcher



Is a fully customisable launcher for your games .

In it users are able to set game resolution , and fog (no,low,normal,high) , why fog ? Becouse if fog is "high" your game would work better on older computers for example...

In it , you can also put your picture (in the place where the "game laucher made by dodic" is).

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----------How to use (not included in .zip file !)-----
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Unfortionatly i DIDN`T made this to be configurable from Dark Basic , i made it all in .ini files , and i`l explain how to use them all now...


Quote: "1. when you download the zip file , you should have this files :
VVMT31W.DLL
VVM31W.DLL
VTK3231W.DLL
VTK1631W.DLL
VTHK31W.DLL
VOFLR31W.SLL
VGUI31W.SLL
VBAS31W.SLL
res_select.ini
pic_location.ini
main01.frj.frj
main01.frj
Game_Launcher.tkn
Game_Launcher.exe
fog_select.ini
exe_location.ini
config_title.ini
code.dba (example of usage inside dark basic)
Folder : Launcher_data
Default.bmp"



Quote: "2. CONFIGURING THE LAUNCHER
FIRST PUT ALL THE GAME FILES/MEDIA IN THE SAME FOLDER AS LAUNCHER IS , OR ALL THE FILES FROM LAUNCHER IN THE SAME FOLDER WHERE THE GAME/MEDIA IS..

To start your game , you will hafe to run Game_Launcher.exe if you want laucher to start , so i suggest you put your game into another folder , becouse two exe`s in same folder might confuse players of your game.


All the ini files are for configuring , now we are going to clear out witch is for what :

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"exe_location.ini"
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the location or name of your GAME EXE is stored in there , so open it from notepad , and write the name or location.

Example , if your game exe is in the same folder as game launcher is , then put this :"yourgamename.exe"
and save.

If your game is in another folder , then put : "foldername/gamename.exe" (.exe isn`t required if that is the only file inside that folder with that name)



==================
pic_location.ini
==================
Here you put your picture`s adress , name (same as for exelocation , only it`s .bmp ONLY) that you want to show in game launcher.


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config_title.ini
==================
Here you put the game launcer`s window title (put the name of your game or something like that)


THAT`S ALL THE INI`S YOU NEED TO EDIT FROM NOTEPAD , DON`T CHANGE THE OTHER INI`S
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3. USAGE OF IT IN DARK BASIC.

As i "said" you will NOT run launcher from db , then launcher will run compiled .exe from db .

HERE`S WHAT YOU NEED TO PUT INTO YOUR DB GAME SO THAT LAUNCHER RESOLUTION AND FOG SETTINGS COULD APPLY IN YOUR GAME :



(But you need to add do/loop or add your game or something before compiling to exe , or else it will just quit when runned).



I hope someone will use this in they`r games . Why ? Becouse it looks like normal game launcher , it looks nice to have , and it uses windows gui . (many of commercial games have very simmiliar launchers)


NOTE : IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE game_launcher.exe to your games name , then you must also change game_launcher.tkn to the same name as exe is , but it must be .tkn


It took me a week to write this launcher so i hope it`s good.

And you can freely suggest for new features or whatever you would like me to change/add and i will try to include it into next version.

Maby options like Texture size or so...




p.s. you must not make any of location ini`s BLANK or else it won`t work (offcourse it wont , but i mean it will return an error..)

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Posted: 20th Jan 2006 12:54
That's pretty cool. I'm not going to use it though, and I doubt this is made in DB


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Posted: 20th Jan 2006 12:56 Edited at: 20th Jan 2006 13:07
nope , this was made FOR db , and requires a db code snippet to work , so it`s releated with db enough . and yes , it`s made for dbclassic , and untested in dbpro , becouse probably the snippet needs to be a bit different to work in dbpro..


p.s. please don`t start discussing stuff other than topic again , becouse i put my best effort`s into this one , so i wouldn`t like it to be flamed , please.

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Posted: 20th Jan 2006 13:24
Quote: "open to read 1,"res_select.ini""


Quote: "open to read 2,"fog_select.ini""


You need to close these files

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Posted: 20th Jan 2006 13:36 Edited at: 20th Jan 2006 15:42
Thanks , i was too tired on working that , just wanted to finish , so i missed that , but it`s all right now , i edited it , thank`s again for pointing that out .




edit : looks my effort in this project was pointless.
Thought i`l be using it for my games...

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Posted: 24th Jan 2006 06:52
That's pretty nifty, saves the hassle of figuring out display modes within DB. Can you change the window title?

Some suggestions for future releases:

-Way to apply "skins" to buttons and drop downs, even if it's just using a bitmap or something.

-In addition to logo image, be able to customize background, so no whiteness.

-Maybe even....remove the title bar, so you get a cool startup thing.

-Add your own options besides the default resolution and fog (like if our gmae used shaders [if it gets ported to Pro], or even some screwed up thing we coded ourselves).

I see potential. With the right functionality it can be a finishing touch to make a game look so nice and pretty.


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Posted: 24th Jan 2006 07:13
Dodic, why you keep making utilities for Darkbasic in languages other than Darkbasic?

Screenshot from http://www.justbasic.com/:



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Posted: 24th Jan 2006 09:21 Edited at: 24th Jan 2006 09:35
Quote: "Dodic, why you keep making utilities for Darkbasic in languages other than Darkbasic?"



Ahm..that`s totaly mine , in what i`l make stuff , as you know that db cannot support windows gui , i`m just trying to make things better , and really it`s mine buisness in what a ____ i`m making my projects , thank you . And wait , is it wrong to make stuff in Jb ? I like it very much .


@BearCDP : Yes , i will add many of those probably , for start , you already can change what is written on the title bar , i could add that "skin" thing , i could also make that you choose the color of the background...

adding of buttons or options ? that will be a bit harder , but yes it`s possible .



But i`m kind of seek...(not crazy kind of seak)
(yeah , spelled wrong , so what)
so , i won`t make anything this few days or weeks depending on how long it will last.


edit : So what if i used JB ? It still took me a lot of effort .


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Quote: "Dodic, why you keep making utilities for Darkbasic in languages other than Darkbasic?
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how do you expect me to make that in Dark Basic ???

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Posted: 24th Jan 2006 16:48 Edited at: 24th Jan 2006 16:51
Quote: "how do you expect me to make that in Dark Basic ??? "


Ooh, a challenge eh?

*gets to work*

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Posted: 25th Jan 2006 08:52
Quote: "*gets to work*"


ok , make it in full WINDOWS enviroment in dbc (that`s why i said that , becouse of windows gui)

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Posted: 25th Jan 2006 19:41
i`m not sure about adding theese options:

Model Quality (polygon) :
High
Normal
Low
(but you would hafe to have seperate model files for a high , normal and low polygon..)

And maby texture quality (size) : (but better not to be 256*256,64*64... becouse maby you have larger or textures that doesn`t match any of theese formats)
High
Normal
Low
(but you would hafe to have seperate texture files for high , normal and low size..).



And i`m thinking a bit more about making a CONFIGURATION panel (exe) in witch you can write all parametres (except writing them in .ini files manualy) , in that case you would hafe to remove the configuration exe when you finish and set up everything.

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Posted: 25th Jan 2006 20:41 Edited at: 25th Jan 2006 20:43
Quote: "Ahm..that`s totaly mine , in what i`l make stuff , as you know that db cannot support windows gui , i`m just trying to make things better , and really it`s mine buisness in what a ____ i`m making my projects , thank you . "


I don't deny that it's totally yours and you can use whatever languages you want. What I have a problem with is the fact that you keep posting stuff you've created in other languages... in a DARKBASIC forum. This is NOT a forum for JustBasic programs.

Quote: "And wait , is it wrong to make stuff in Jb ? I like it very much ."


I can guess why you like it... because it's free. Ever since you've started posting you seem to have a problem using programs you have to pay money to use. I have nothing against "free" but if you want to program in Darkbasic... you're going to have to "buy" it. Are you actually working on any true Darkbasic programs right now?

Quote: "how do you expect me to make that in Dark Basic ??? "


If you really like programming in Darkbasic and you want a Windows GUI I expect you to do what everybody else does... buy Pro and BlueGUI.

http://darkbasicpro.thegamecreators.com/?f=blue

Do the Darkbasic Community a favor... only post stuff made in Darkbasic. Making utilities in other languages to give Classic more functionality only does one thing if people use it... take sales away from TGC.


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Posted: 26th Jan 2006 08:26
Enought . I won`t listen to you anymore . How can i buy Dbpro to make a launcher for db classic ???

And still , why should i hafe to do it when it would look the same ?
so , what do i get with that ?

I only make utilities to try to help with db , this launcher i consider a usefull thing , and if i work in free , i`l be more willing to give free .

As i said , this HAS many to do with DARK BASIC CLASSIC that`s WHY i putted it here with a CODE that you put into DARK BASIC that is needed for launcher to be used in DARK BASIC.

So , please leave me to do whatever i like ... really...


You don`t like Just Basic JUST becouse it`s free .
Yeah , if i made it in LIBERTY BASIC witch is almost the same , but > then $30 in price , then you wouldn`t say anything...

CAMMON MICROSOFT EXPRESS VISUAL C++ 5 , MICROSOFT EXPRESS VISUAL BASIC 5 , MICROSOFT EXPRESS VISUAL J# 5 , MICROSOFT EXPRESS VISUAL C# 5 . Are as in TOTALY free.

Please do not start this discussion on my new threads that i create , and i will be more then happy , and appreciate you more.

Becouse if someone suggest a thing nice and without "noise" , i WILL read it , and at least i will remember it and consider it when the time comes , but if someone "yells" , and keep posting 5 posts on each of my thread about that (not you , just example) , then i WILL NOT eaven read it.

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Quote: "Yeah , if i made it in LIBERTY BASIC witch is almost the same , but > then $30 in price , then you wouldn`t say anything..."


Actually we would complain. If you wrote it in C++, I'd complain...

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Quote: "Actually we would complain. If you wrote it in C++, I'd complain..."


complain ? what for , why complain , i dont understand

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Posted: 26th Jan 2006 22:57
Can't we all just get along

I understand his ap is not in DB but neither are alot of the apps we use (Anim8or, Graphics Gale, DLL's, etc.) If he had created a new modeler or something I think everyone would be happy. I agree this is a place for DB discussion but I can see the usefulness of this program with DB thus find it relevant.
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i agree nice app

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Posted: 26th Jan 2006 23:59 Edited at: 27th Jan 2006 00:01
Quote: "Enought . I won`t listen to you anymore . How can i buy Dbpro to make a launcher for db classic ???"


The launcher is made in JustBasic... you don't need either to make the launcher.

Quote: "And still , why should i hafe to do it when it would look the same ?
so , what do i get with that ?
"


You don't like the idea of having that ability in the same language your games are made? There's no need to use outside .exes to make your game. That's the beauty of using Pro... you have everything you want in one place.

Quote: "I only make utilities to try to help with db , this launcher i consider a usefull thing , and if i work in free , i`l be more willing to give free ."


Making something useful is good but just because you have to pay for something doesn't automatically mean everything you do in it will cost others money. All of us that help newbies have paid for Darkbasic... do we charge newbies a fee everytime we help them with code problems?

Quote: "As i said , this HAS many to do with DARK BASIC CLASSIC that`s WHY i putted it here with a CODE that you put into DARK BASIC that is needed for launcher to be used in DARK BASIC."


I can easily make a utility in Quickbasic to give Darkbasic better ability to read/write binary files (without destroying the file first) but you don't see me posting it on here. Why would I not share that with the Darkbasic Community? Because this forum is for Darkbasic... not QuickBasic. No matter what languages you use if you post a utility written in another language for use with Darkbasic you're going to get the kind of messages i've been posting. Your program does NOT belong here.

Quote: "So , please leave me to do whatever i like ... really...
"


Why should you get special treatment? Would you like the "Newbie Slap" gone too?

Quote: "You don`t like Just Basic JUST becouse it`s free .
Yeah , if i made it in LIBERTY BASIC witch is almost the same , but > then $30 in price , then you wouldn`t say anything...

CAMMON MICROSOFT EXPRESS VISUAL C++ 5 , MICROSOFT EXPRESS VISUAL BASIC 5 , MICROSOFT EXPRESS VISUAL J# 5 , MICROSOFT EXPRESS VISUAL C# 5 . Are as in TOTALY free."


Like I said I have nothing against "free". But I know for a fact you won't get Darkbasic for free (unless you decide to do something illegal or you're a student). If you want to continue posting in the forums dedicated to Darkbasic programming you're going to need to buy Darkbasic. Nobody is going to accept (as Blanky said too) constant posting of other languages in a Darkbasic forum. If you want to program in and post code/exes that are made with JustBasic... go to a JustBasic site... not here.

Quote: "Please do not start this discussion on my new threads that i create , and i will be more then happy , and appreciate you more.

Becouse if someone suggest a thing nice and without "noise" , i WILL read it , and at least i will remember it and consider it when the time comes , but if someone "yells" , and keep posting 5 posts on each of my thread about that (not you , just example) , then i WILL NOT eaven read it."


I have nothing against you personally. This isn't the first time this has happened. Check out this thread:
http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&t=65540&b=7

This guy and you are a little different. You have actually tried the Darkbasic trials. This guy joins just to talk about a Visual Basic program him and his Dad have made and wants our opinion on it and our help. I (and several others) told him the same thing... get Darkbasic or go where they accept Visual Basic.

The bottom line is any programs/code from any language other than Darkbasic is not accepted here. If you tried to post Darkbasic utility/code in a C++ forum you'd get yelled at too.

Do what the community does or leave... it's as simple as that.


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Quote: "Do what the community does or leave... it's as simple as that."
That was very harsh and i disagree as this is an application that is useful to Dark Basic why not. TDK made his IDE on the DBC boards and that wasnt made from DB it was delphi and nobody moaned at him... talking of which where is the man?

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Yes, good point, nojbox87. But TDK_Man is more respected with DB, and doesn't have a history of making a ton of projects and abandoning them within the hour(ok, maybe I'm exagerating, but it is still around a few days).


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Posted: 27th Jan 2006 01:22
Programs made to do things Darkbasic can't do are ok... programs that have exactly the same abilities that Darkbasic can do with a little programming aren't acceptable... at least that's my opinion.

If he posted the code for that program would that be acceptable too?


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*Looks at Just Basic screenshot Grog posted*
"Only weird people have that image as their background"
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"Crud"



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An interesting look at the custom buttons thing would be to allow the programmer to define buttons in script, giving the option to define values to pass to the .ini file. Btw, have you ever considered lumping all the options in a single gamelaunch.ini instead of having a file for each option?


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Posted: 27th Jan 2006 09:05
Quote: "Btw, have you ever considered lumping all the options in a single gamelaunch.ini instead of having a file for each option?
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yes , but i just putted it like that for now becouse it`s easier to explain to people how to use it , here is an example of how the "help" would beif it`s all in one .ini :
1.st line is for... enter ... in it.
2.nd line is for .....enter...in it

But becouse of complexity to use , i decided to make a small wizard thing in witch you can easily define file locations and other misc.



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Quote: "An interesting look at the custom buttons thing would be to allow the programmer to define buttons in script, giving the option to define values to pass to the .ini file"


i`m not sure i understanded that fully there.

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Quote: "programs that have exactly the same abilities that Darkbasic can do with a little programming aren't acceptable..."


So infact, TDK's DarkBasic editor isn't accepted by you. Because everything his editor does, can be done with DarkBasic with a bit of coding.

This is a stupid fight. Dodic made something in another language. So, it has to do with DBC so fine by me. If you don't like it, don't use it!

Really, I don't see what's wrong with this program, except that it has a low rate of abilities...

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Quote: "Really, I don't see what's wrong with this program, except that it has a low rate of abilities..."


Thank`s for support , i will add ANY abbilities that are asked by you .

i`l also most probably add user configuratible "extra" options , so that you can add options that fit to your game in my next version.

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Posted: 27th Jan 2006 14:11 Edited at: 27th Jan 2006 14:14
I have some ideas :

- Add previously coded functions in a list.
- Variable setup. Add variables with a value.
- Object setup, sound setup, music setup, image setup and bitmap setup. Load a filename and give a number to it. In case of objects, you can give the starting values.
- Bitmap creation setup. Create a bitmap and give size and number.
- Sprite setup. Give start position and spr nr and img nr.
- Light setup.
- IDnr checker. Checks if media already exists.
- Load range. Same effect as "for next" to load for example 100 enemies.
- Maybe for later: append to objects.


- Saving these informations for editing. Using tags in remarks to edit it realtime.
- Ofcourse, loading those project informations back.

You'll have your work

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Posted: 27th Jan 2006 14:39
Thank`s for suggestion , but i don`t understand how could all those features be found in a launcher , if you mean like sprite or light quality or stuff like that , than sure , but i don`t anderstand what is the loading range and append to objects , that is , where that fit`s into a game launcher ? (i just didn`t understand you very well , that must be it..)



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Quote: "what is the loading range and append to objects"


with the loading range, I mean something like:



So you don't have to type 100 lines to load 100 enemies for example.

And with the append object, I meant object animation:



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Posted: 27th Jan 2006 16:14
Yes , but i still dont understand how to integrate that in my launcher , or where it should stand ?


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Quote: "So infact, TDK's DarkBasic editor isn't accepted by you. Because everything his editor does, can be done with DarkBasic with a bit of coding."


It's accepted by me because most people believe that IDEs for Darkbasic are best when their written in languages other than Darkbasic.

Quote: "This is a stupid fight. Dodic made something in another language. So, it has to do with DBC so fine by me. If you don't like it, don't use it!"


Have no fear... i'm not going to use it.

I won't bother him about this or any future utilities written in other languages. I see by the messages there are more people in support of it than not... so I accept the majorities stand.

I'm sorry for upsetting you Dodic.


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Posted: 27th Jan 2006 23:44
Quote: "I'm sorry for upsetting you Dodic."


You weren`t .. you are a good guy

Quote: "I won't bother him about this or any future utilities written in other languages. I see by the messages there are more people in support of it than not... so I accept the majorities stand."


Thank you for that .. i appreciate it.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2006 04:16


"Gluncher?"


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Posted: 28th Jan 2006 08:58 Edited at: 28th Jan 2006 09:07
Quote: ""Gluncher?" "


not sure i understand the question ?

maby you mean on this , glauncher is it`s name , that`s how i called it , and it is also short of Game Launcer .


if you don`t know what it`s for , then it is a Launcher For games that is configurable so that you can use it for your game (db classic game) , if you don`t know what a launcher is at all , then i`m afraid my Enlgish it too patetick to explain ... (large number of games have it..)

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Look at the window title.

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Posted: 28th Jan 2006 15:56 Edited at: 28th Jan 2006 16:04
The window title is also changable offcourse , is that what you meanth ?

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The window title says "Gluncher"


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Posted: 28th Jan 2006 18:41 Edited at: 28th Jan 2006 19:04
YES , but you can CHANGE it into WHATEVER you like , just read the "instructions" (first post) , i think i wrote how to change that as well there .

p.s. I`m now at 45% work For the new version , it will have SKINS , CONTROL PANNEL (you wont have to worry abbout all those ini`s anymore ...) , And more features i hope..

I`m not sure about this one , but i can make a customizable "about" box as well (like an "about" button in the corner or somewhere , and when someone clicks on it , it says what the user configures) .

You can FREELY post suggestions for ANY features you would like. (but please explain fully and clearly so that i can understand exactly what to add...)


edit : Oh , i understand now : G-luncher instead launcher ...
no worryes , that title isn`t the one that you willl find when you download the zip file anyways.. (it says ==Untitled== or something like that untilll the user change it)

dab
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Posted: 29th Jan 2006 05:06
Dude, I went to delete the folder with your program in it. IT said Glauncher was still running. So I checked, and there it was. Still running. You need to fix that. I even closed the file the way you're supposed to.

airdoo0
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Posted: 29th Jan 2006 05:07
dodic, thats the best ever,

here is a good website to host it on http://hai2u.com/

lol noobs
Dodic
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Posted: 29th Jan 2006 11:36 Edited at: 29th Jan 2006 11:51
Quote: "Dude, I went to delete the folder with your program in it. IT said Glauncher was still running. So I checked, and there it was. Still running. You need to fix that. I even closed the file the way you're supposed to. "


IT is made so that you CAN NOT delete my product !




No , it`s not , i`l fix that soon , i didn`t knew about that untill now . But try using the close button and tell me will it stay in task manager . (just need to know to be sure what part the problem`s in)


edit :
Quote: "dodic, thats the best ever,

here is a good website to host it on http://hai2u.com/
"

Guys i suggest you
Quote: "NOT"
to check the link for your own good.

Dodic
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Posted: 29th Jan 2006 13:42 Edited at: 29th Jan 2006 17:02
I just want to say that i have succesfully accomplished about 50% of the next version , the "skin" supported with configuration panel one , this program will change much for that version (to make it all in one .ini files and stuff like that) , but version i`m now working on will have skin changing (but only premade skins from database i`m afraid , but again , in next few versions i`l possibly make a skin creator , and a control panel so you wont hafe to edit those many .ini files ... it was really a mess , now it should be easy.)

Tapewormz
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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 03:38 Edited at: 30th Jan 2006 04:48
You are most certainly the master of redundancy Dodic. I've got a far more efficient game launcher...It's called the shortcut icon on my desktop. Imagine that...

Here's your prize...



If it seems like I'm picking on you, I'm not. You just post alot of poop in the forums that I find particularly amusing and retarded.

If that's not comforting enough, then you should know that while I find your programs useless, they do make me laugh and put a smile on my face.

Here, you can pad your deck with this new card. It'll make your deck an UBER deck!


Grog Grueslayer
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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 05:46
Cool card!


Tapewormz
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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 07:55
!!!
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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 16:37
yeah, nice card.

and a desktop shortcut is WAAAY better then stupid launcher. imagine, just clicking the little picture...
The man
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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 17:48
Really cool..

-The man-

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