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Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 21st Jan 2006 01:05
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Hello. I have just got the Ubuntu (www.ubuntu.org I think..), and I am running from the live cd. It is a Linux based operating system, and I am wondering if it will work with EXE files. I am going to test it, but if someone answers before I find out, that would be nice.

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Undercover Steve
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Posted: 21st Jan 2006 01:24 Edited at: 21st Jan 2006 01:24
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:S:S. Not windows EXE. An EXE specifically for Linux, yah. Try RPM based files (like Binary Files), depending if it is live or not.

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Posted: 21st Jan 2006 01:47 Edited at: 21st Jan 2006 01:50
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Quote: ":S:S. Not windows EXE. An EXE specifically for Linux, yah. Try RPM based files (like Binary Files), depending if it is live or not."


What the?

Windows executable files cannot be natively run on Linux, but they can be emulated using the ever progressing Wine software. I used it to emulate Counter Strike, and it worked very well (despite some errors in the fonts).

Ubuntu uses a package management system called APT to get linux files. I believe it is fairly regularly updated.

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Undercover Steve
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Posted: 21st Jan 2006 01:54
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you know, Binary Files are precompiled apps. You cant run Window EXE's, but if you use shell applications (replacement of EXE for linux), it will run. Wine is ued to emulate sometiems, but I would not recommend it. The entire reason to use linux is to get a more controllable operating system, not use windows applications.

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JoelJ
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Posted: 21st Jan 2006 03:19
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Quote: "The entire reason to use linux is to get a more controllable operating system, not use windows applications."

what are you smoking? the whole point is because it's a different OS, it might be because you think it's more stable/faster/better, whatever, but how can one OS be better than another if you can't use your favorite apps? That's where emulation comes in, so you can use certain apps without dual booting. Using emulation doesn't nessisarily make Linux less "controllable"

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Undercover Steve
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Posted: 21st Jan 2006 03:30
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No, the actual purpose of linux is to create an entirely different OS, which is more stable/controllable, and emulation is basically an attempt at porting software, which wasnt made for the OS, so shouldnt be used. Want to play CS? Dual Boot. Want to have MS Office? Open Office. Emulations doesnt work all the way, so I wont recommend it. If someone comes up with a surefire way of making sure all software works on the other OS's, I will withraw all statements. But until then, Emulation is something made for those, who only *want* to use the other software. Oh, so now we are getting into the better debate? So are you saying the entire reason you left is to get away from the other OS? People who do that dont deserve Linux. I dual SuSe Windows, and Debian, and it really is odd, because I only use Windows unless I want to access direct commands. Windows has everything I need. But if you want a faulty peice of software, which barely loads most applications, go for it. On another note, Try Crossover Office. I would recommend that higher than wine

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Posted: 23rd Jan 2006 12:57
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Quote: "The entire reason to use linux is to get a more controllable operating system, not use windows applications."


The *point* of Linux is that it is free - in a "free speech" sense. This means that the code is available for anyone to examine, modify and recompile. That Linux is more configurable is probably true, but a byproduct of it being free rather than a stated goal.

Quote: "but if you use shell applications (replacement of EXE for linux),"


I'm not sure what you mean by "shell application", but the Linux equivalent of the Windows PE (Portable Executable) format is called ELF. The problem with running Windows executables under Linux is not the executable format itself, but the libraries that the program needs in order to run. A typical Windows application will depend upon the standard system libraries (User32, Kernel32 ? etc.). 3D games provide further complications if they depend upon DirectX which is not available as an API under Linux.

Quote: "Try RPM based files (like Binary Files)"


RPM is a format for packaging software for easy installation on Linux, used by Red Hat, SuSE and others. An alternative is DPKG ("Debian Package") which is used by Debian and related distributions such as Ubuntu / Kubuntu.


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Posted: 23rd Jan 2006 18:34
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Quote: "but if you use shell applications (replacement of EXE for linux)"


shell applications, or shell scripts to use there real name, are like a more powerful batch scripting system in windows, its like in windows they have vbs and the like

the application format on linux is elf and rpm are packages - like msi are


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