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Dodic
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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 17:29 Edited at: 30th Jan 2006 17:51
I just "bought" Fps creator , Dark Basic and Game maker 6 about 5 secounds ago , the orders are processing , i mean the ussual wait , but for game maker it should take no longer then 4 hours for me to get the license (full version of gm6..)


So , i`m happy... (^_^)


p.s. Yeah , i know this thread is usseles , and i`m sorry , i just wanted to tell my "buddy`s" how happy i am , if any mod lock it , i`l understand . (or "any" admin)



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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 17:37
What's with the //////////////

Dodic
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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 17:50 Edited at: 30th Jan 2006 17:52
I havent tiped that , i don`t understand how that`s there , i`l check it out (with edit...)


edit : works fine now when i edited it , i have no idea how that got in there , it seems to have been close to every " in my post..



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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 18:47
Congrats on making the plunge--- but why get Game Maker & DBC?

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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 18:53 Edited at: 30th Jan 2006 18:56
Congrats

No wonder you're happy when you got those things!

Thought I'm wondering about one single thing

Quote: " I just "bought" Fps creator , Dark Basic and Game maker 6 about 5 secounds ago , the orders are processing"


What's up with the "bought"? When I readed that I took it like you actually didn't bought them, but downloaded them, since that's what the "" can mean.

I'm not saying you did that, just asking why they are there since I'm wondering about it, and maybe it could confuse others, like it confused me

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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 19:01
Generally, if you see a lot of ` or / marks it's due to a proxy server slightly garbling the text. I think


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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 19:03
Proxy servers ripped my left arm off

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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 19:20
Quote: "Congrats on making the plunge--- but why get Game Maker & DBC?"


well Dbc becouse i still don`t think i`m ready for buying of dbpro becouse it is , well a bit harder.. i think i will buy it later though , and Game Maker 6 becouse it is best by my oppinion program for making 2d games and the price is low 15euros $20.

BUT i just recived a mail that the procces FAILED with the game maker , i can`t call the support becouse they are a bit far a way and it would be a bit expencive international call , and no mail or anything , but i will try again , check all the details...


Quote: "What's up with the "bought"? When I readed that I took it like you actually didn't bought them, but downloaded them, since that's what the "" can mean."


Oh , bought is becouse it`s still processing , i just filled up all the forms and everything today.



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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 20:03
Yeeeeehhhaawwwww! I'm real happy you finally got Darkbasic.


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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 20:07
that`s very cool.



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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 21:14
Quote: "well Dbc becouse i still don`t think i`m ready for buying of dbpro becouse it is , well a bit harder.."


Why? How can DBP be harder than DBC? I was under the impression that they're very similar, just DBP is newer.

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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 21:16 Edited at: 30th Jan 2006 21:19
Dbp is harder then dbclassic (to me at least) becouse it has a whole bunch of new commands that are more compilacted (vertices , and stuff...) , and eaven setting up a good collision is very hard in it , and it is a bit different from db classic in some stuff so that you can`t make a full game in dbclassic and just run it from dbpro ...


p.s. i just "discovered" you`r web site , and it very professional and awsome .. very great , it kind of makes me wish if i could ever make something like that...



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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 21:28 Edited at: 30th Jan 2006 21:31
Quote: "Dbp is harder then dbclassic (to me at least) becouse it has a whole bunch of new commands that are more compilacted (vertices , and stuff...) , and eaven setting up a good collision is very hard in it , and it is a bit different from db classic in some stuff so that you can`t make a full game in dbclassic and just run it from dbpro ..."


Well... You don't have to use the complicated commands in the start They're just there when you advanced. Infact I find DarkBasic Classic HARDER then Darkbasic Pro(Can I really be the only person on this forum that thinks that?). Commands like "move object left/right" will not be found in DBC I think. Instead you would have to increase the objects x position etc... I've found some examples on that, were it's quicker to make in DarkBasic Pro.

And I can't see why it should be that more defficult to set up a collision in DarkBasic Pro. It got commands that are made just for that... And it shouldn't differ that much from DBC anyway.

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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 21:32
Or rotate the object 90 degrees and move it, and then rotate it -90 degrees.

Anyway, DBPro is not harder than DBC. As The Nerd points out, you can just save the advanced stuff in DBPro until you're ready for it. I'd say you should go for DBPro instead.

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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 21:36 Edited at: 30th Jan 2006 21:46
Quote: " Or rotate the object 90 degrees and move it, and then rotate it -90 degrees"


Indeed... But my point wasn't how you could go around doing it, but just that it's easier to accomplish in dbpro

isn't it still easier to do something like:



?


Infact I just remember another example!

When you in DBC wanna turn the object, like for a character etc... And you wanted to use the command "rotate object", you would need to use the wrapvalue... In dbc that is... Else you get an error when the object angle exceeds 360 degress... Or -360 degress for that matter, while you in DarkBasic Pro wouldn't have to worry about that.

Maybe it's about time to throw the "DBC is easier than DBPRO" rumour out in the trashcan

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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 21:43
Quote: "Indeed... But isn't it still easier to do something like:

turn object object number, speed(shouldn't that be angle?)
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Well, that's practically the same.

Hey, I just found out that I'm missing the TURN OBJECT command!


But the point is, that DBPro is NOT harder to learn than DBC

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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 21:45 Edited at: 30th Jan 2006 21:45
Quote: "(shouldn't that be angle?)"

Well... It should really be "value", and it should be corrected to "turn object left/right" too

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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 22:09
Oh yes, I thought that something was wrong... Well, I never use that command anyway. Sorry, this will be my last interruption here until I have something important to say...

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Posted: 30th Jan 2006 23:40
Ok , something wrong was with the Gm order , but it`s fixed now everything works fine , i hope Fpsc and Db orders will work fine as well.



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Posted: 31st Jan 2006 00:27
If you run into the "gadget 3d" engine by freegadgets be sure and look up wolfdreamers forums. I created a bunch of 3d examples with that engine. It was first written in 4.6 i believe... Freegadgets turned a strictly 2d engine into 3d without the use of a dll. I helped make alot of examples and made the first stair stepping example with GM5 or so. I left shortly after to buy DBPro and get into that, since a "Textured Polygon" without a dll was like god in GameMaker. Ill see if i cant link you to some of my stuff.

I also created the second, 3rd person, demo in GM. I think wolf dreamer is part of this forum if im not mistaken, ask him if he cant retrieve some of those classic 3d game maker 4.x demos.

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Posted: 31st Jan 2006 03:25
I don't see how he can think that Pro is harder than Classic too... but it's too late. He's already ordered Classic.


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Posted: 31st Jan 2006 14:59
@Odd mind : Yeah , well i know how to work with gm6 3d , i have a friend that is "crazy" about/with game maker 6 3d stuff , he has it , i learned to use it at he`s place , he also knows how to inport 3d models into gm6 , that`s a thing i don`t know.. and particles are a bit "strange" to code , for me at least.... but i`l learn soon , anyways i have been using game maker sence version 1.0 came out (quite a few years now..) and i still have the latest freeware version (not counting that now i have the gm6) 4.3 with i use , and i have coded an internet chat program in it with a great design and everything..i like gm.

@Grog "Gray"slayer (sorry , i like to call your nickname like that..)

I tryed db pro demo , and it was just strange , 80% of stuff from dbclassic didn`t work in it .... and some simple commands and stuff work different , and sprite pictures won`t show from a simple db classic code a tried and everything is "blury" to me...

i WILL buy db pro as soon as i think i`m ready , becouse i love db pro (i mean all the showcase games and everything made with it looks so cool , well , eaven the FPSC i`m buying right now is made in it , so it`s definatly a great choise to make ...)



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"I tryed db pro demo , and it was just strange , 80% of stuff from dbclassic didn`t work in it"
Partly to do with slight differences in the code, and slightly to do with the fact that the demosisn't that latest version with bug fixes. When I tried the dbpro demo years ago it nearly put me off buying it, but I knew it would get fixed sooner or later, as I had used dbc or years and seen that progress

"everything is "blury" to me"
common problem. This is for two reasons:
1. it defaults as a stretched, chromeless fullscreen window, rather than an exclusive render mode. In some resolutions that can cause it to look fuzzy. Easy to fix, either choose a resolution to suit your monitor or type "set window off" as your first line
2. if you put an extra ",1" at the end of loading your images, they will look much clearer, as without it it kinda antialiases or somehow fuzzes the images to look "smoother" but most people find it too fuzzy. Anyway, easy to fix

Glad you finally bought some stuff, congrats


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Posted: 31st Jan 2006 18:31
@Kangaroo2 BETA2 : When/if you set off your buying sistem , so that users from Serbija can use it (Share It! and a few other out there support it) i will be happy to be quikly (i hope you understand what i meanth..)



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Posted: 31st Jan 2006 18:39
sure, I'm working on getting paypal and share it checkout systems in there for release


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Posted: 31st Jan 2006 19:01 Edited at: 31st Jan 2006 19:03
Quote: " he also knows how to inport 3d models into gm6 , that`s a thing i don`t know.. "


3D models? In Game maker 6? I haven't used it that much, but I don't think that's possible... Isn't Game Maker 6 a 2D game creator?
Sure you can make games that looks like 3D, but isn't.

[EDIT]

Just looked at their website... Actually there does stand that you can make 3D games... Must have been a new feature

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Posted: 31st Jan 2006 20:03
Yeap , new open gl 3d feature in gm6 , with a little bit of code you can make a simple engine , and then just use the standard level editor to very easy position walls and stuff without any codding .

Problems i noticed when comparing to db`s engine :
Low view distance , Not too low , but not good for outdoor games though
A bit of effort loading models (though i WAS able to convert them to needed format with lite unwarp and now it works preatty good)
Well ,much less features...

The good stuff when comparing to db`s engine : (to db classic without enchansement)
When you set up a simple coordinating sistem using gm6script , you can easily position you`r objects and everything
Some things are eaven simpler to code , for example particles that work great
Dll reading support (for example a guy already made a dll controll sistem that uses windows speech so that your games can "read out loud")
Memblocks (with a different name though) and a bit easyer to make multiplayer support (i already make a net chat program that works)




But , this is tgc`s forum , so i`l stop talking about that.

Only thing i`m little "afraid" about is that the fpsc demo that i use untill the order is processed and untill i get acces to download... (and later when the "shipping" ends) has a preatty much low fps rate , i`m kind of afraid how to make a game with so low fps ...



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Posted: 31st Jan 2006 21:29
If you had an unusably low frame rate with the demo, why did you even consider buying it? lol The FPS isn't slowed donw for the demo, that would be maddness! The latest demo plays identically to the full version last time I checked, its just got the save disabled and not as many models if I reemeber correctly...


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No prob with that , i`l buy it anyway... i don`t madder to much that frame problem is only with large outside maps and stuff like that .. not too great problem , trust me.



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oh ok, from this quote "i`m kind of afraid how to make a game with so low fps" I figured it was a ral problem on your machine.

Personally on my pc fpsc games get 15-20fps, which is not perfect to say the least, but usable/playable enough for me to still use it


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Posted: 31st Jan 2006 21:49
What? Dodic didn't have DB? Then how did he have all those projects? I'm more than sure it was over 30 days...

Whatever, congrats Dodic! Hope it goes well...

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He had full version of "db lite" as well as the trials


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dblite is that free?

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13euros



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/ is a SQL Anti Hack Technique it replaces ' with '/ to prevent

'OR 1==1--

if you edit, sometimes they go in.

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no they wont merranvo. Rich isnt as dumb as you lame script kiddies, he has zend certification. But you dont know what that is! boohoo moron.

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uhh, your a moron you know that Ultra Noob?

watch 'hello


well, the / isn't going in now, but it goes in every now and then

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Oh wow! Could it be because when you edit it *just* happens to strip slash the /? Amazing. Good luck with your blankness of idiocy.

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good luck with finding a job.
Could it be... that sometimes it forgets to strip it? OOHHH. (Yes, it is a impracticallity for a computer to 'forget'. OOOOOHHH but it can skip a process, can have a bug in the program. It can get off by 1 so that it misses the rest.)

You know what, you are the stupidest moron in this entire site. And that is saying something. UNLIKE everyone else, you don't understand a single sentence. You're lucky enough if someone gets the patience to explain what is going on. Your kind allways infuriate me.

On top of that, right now I am hardly flaming you. Look at everyone of your posts, What do you type? I could hit you for every post you made. But I don't, I understand that you are incapable of posting once without saying something stupid.

Now, if you have ANY intellegence in that head of yours. Go look though the boards, you WILL see some posts with the '/ in them. Sometimes people edit it out. Sometimes they are left in. But you never did look. And heck, I have only been here 1 month longer then you, and STILL have seen innumerable posts with '/

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Ermm yah, so you are saying that the logic in me is fried? Darn . Coming from you that must mean I have a very sensible well organised logic, that communicates well with many people! Anyway, I have seen them, but your post had very badly made php code included, so I thought I should comment. And I did. And you made a huge paragraph at my lowely comment.



Turn that into


And it would work on a poorly coded php site.

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Quote: "Could it be... that sometimes it forgets to strip it? OOHHH. (Yes, it is a impracticallity for a computer to 'forget'. OOOOOHHH but it can skip a process, can have a bug in the program. It can get off by 1 so that it misses the rest.)"


There you again, Merranvo--- this board doesn't "forget" to strip out slashes sometimes and not others. It is black and white, not grey. The strips were most likely a bug (like you said) but it wouldn't skip a process. It's hilarious listening to you talk about computers sometimes :-P

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Then why is it that you see the '/ every now and then?
Then again, they may have updated the software. I ALWAYS saw the '/ after editing my post.


UNoob. that turns the 1's into characters. And is an illigal use of =. You need == because = says store in.

In other words, you want to store the character 1 into the character 1.

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Why is there that hack prevention or whatever ?

I dont/didnt know it was possible to hack forums with messages...



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No, mySQL doesnt support ==. I am not a moron to php:/.

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Quote: "Then why is it that you see the '/ every now and then?
Then again, they may have updated the software. I ALWAYS saw the '/ after editing my post."


Seeing as how the 'Edit Post' function is most likely on a different page then the regular posting function, it is quite easy to see how the stripslashes function is found in one but not the other.

Computers just don't 'forget'--- they do whatever you tell them to, and nothing different.

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Yes, people do
Quote: "Yes, it is a impracticallity for a computer to 'forget'."

On that same post. Forget is easier to say. Else I would be listing ever single error, problem, source error... It is just easier, give me a better word (besides err).

The server use to forget to strip the '\ marks. If you see them on the edit page, they don't get stripped out. it is backslash...

Okay, if it doesn't strip it out in the edit page then it shows up in the post page. else I couldn't type "'\" because the \ would get striped out after I post.



UNoob, I have no clue what you are talking about. PHP is a C similar, so ==. But you were talking about mySQL, the database, I thought the Idea was to hack the forum, not the database.

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All this talk of strips..............

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Because I don't want to type the \'s back in, I think I found out how it puts them in.

You Curse, talk in caps, or post the logout url and it doesn't reomove them. QED, UNoob needs to leave me alone.

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No. Ermm, PHP needs to communicate with a database, and to do that, you would need to connect through a query, which is mysql. MYSQL is a different language, and has no use of ==. Infact, it will output an error.

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