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DarkBASIC Discussion / How secure is DBC?!

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DARKHALO2K
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Posted: 8th Feb 2006 23:36
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Hi there. I recently asked someone if they'd mind me taking the source of their game so that I could attempt to make a more polished version, or at least a new take, on it. They replied with a yes, but said that I would need to use a Hex Editor to obtain the code.
Call me dumb, but this had some alarm bells ringing in my head. If this is possible, then surely anyone could take the source code you may have spent years on putting together?
So, basically, I was wondering if anybody knew for sure, and possibly had any evidence to back their sides up, how secure compiled programs created in DBC are from source stealers?!
Any reply would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Grog Grueslayer
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Posted: 9th Feb 2006 05:00
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Nothing is truly secure in the digital world.

He basically said "No" not "Yes". If somebody is wiling to give you code they give it to you... they don't force you to spend time to convert hex to the code.


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Pincho Paxton
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If you could actually use a hex editor to look at their code, and change it personally you would also be able to get access to any game you want in any language. If they gave you their DB Source code you wouldn't need a Hex editor.... notepad would do.

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Dodic
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i think it is unpossible to obtain db source code from hex , becouse when db compiles , it compiles all to the machine language , witch is definatly not db language.

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Grog Grueslayer
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Posted: 9th Feb 2006 22:31
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It could be converted to Assembly pretty quick though.


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Posted: 10th Feb 2006 02:45 Edited at: 10th Feb 2006 02:45
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DBC doesn't compile to machine code and (even if it did) it is indeed possible to reconvert it to (something that is close to) a readable source code. In the case of DBC there was a tool that did it for you. It worked quite well but the thing is that names of variables, arrays, labels and functions are not stored in the p-code. That makes the results of such tools somewhat difficult to follow.


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re faze
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Posted: 10th Feb 2006 16:06
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dbc is definitely decompilable,because there was some technique the maker of dark realm did where they put db code in a .txt file and ran it as a script from there.
however dbp is a different story and it would be fairly difficult to decompile to readable source code but not impossible. additionally for one reason it retains line numbers which may cause some lag.

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The ARRAYinator
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DBC is interpreted.So it is possible to open the exe appended data at the end of the exe and decompile it.Meaning retranslate it back to dbc source code.I don't think it will be easy but it has been done(I think).
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