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Geek Culture / Someone hacked my site!

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Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 02:42
The topic says it... [href]www.bntstuff.com[/href]

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Oddmind
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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 02:46
-_- looks like a dun it yourself job. Whats with the crappy music? I wouldve chosen "Mars, Bringer Of War".

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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 02:47
Well, you gotta hand it to that guy, he just wanted it more.

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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 02:59
tru that.

either way, you got



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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 03:03
I can't help but wonder, why?


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Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 03:07 Edited at: 14th Feb 2006 03:08
Quote: "Well, you gotta hand it to that guy, he just wanted it more."

Wanted what more? You think he's gonna steel my site? My host is working on getting my site back with the same password and everything.

Also, how does someone hack your site? Just curious...

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Oddmind
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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 03:49
Recognise these? they were embedded within the source.

x_p@hotmail.co.uk

im0@hotmail.co.uk

r.root@yahoo.com

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Undercover Steve
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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 03:52
By exploiting host's options. Probably some crap password, or shell access exploit, ftp issues, ect.

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Oddmind
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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 03:56
Probably by using a rainbow chart. Can crack alphanumeric passwords up to 9 letters within 11 seconds... but it takes about 5 days straight and a very hard to find program to generate and use one.

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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 03:59
You can call me a geek, but I use md5 passwords (as in I get my normal passwords, and md5 them, then encrypt them in my own php script)

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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 04:01
i prefer md5 as well, tho mysql standard encryption works just fine.

the least we can do is hack his tripod site >_<

http://members.lycos.co.uk/al3ash8m/loveer.mid

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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 04:05
dont tell me you use mysql standard. Very bad practice, considering it can be cracked much easier than md5 (which cant be cracked, just checked and compared).... md5 is owntastic..

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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 04:14 Edited at: 14th Feb 2006 04:14
I dont have to deal with anyone who even knows what my SQL stands for. XD Yea send me a message encrypted in md5.

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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 04:18
that hacked page was awesome

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Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 04:18
But if the person hacks the site, I can still cancel it with the host, and set up a different site?

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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 05:11
Because we werent having a conversation with md5 encoded passwords that were cracked within miliseconds right?

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60 gig HD

1.3 GHz intel celeron processor

512 ram

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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 07:14
I have just one question: What's an MD5?


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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 07:50
MD5 is the name of a hashing algorithm. It's most often used to hash a string like "myl33torpassword!", which becomes "4bc8c76eb067703858bc7c90de9eb6ad". It's one way, so you can't derive the original string from the hash; all these "cracks" are just brute-forces or a rainbow table (as I understand it) is essentially just a table of precalculated hashes.

The cool thing about MD5 (or all hashing algorithms) is that the hash varies wildly depending on it's input - so as a hacker you can't say "ooh I'm getting close"...

"myl33torpassword!" => "4bc8c76eb067703858bc7c90de9eb6ad"
"Myl33torpassword!" => "1c566b8dff7c7c8558c723d3288a8dcc"

So, for that reason it's also used widely to checksum files. You can tell if a file's corrupted, or more seriously, if it's been altered from the original.

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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 09:29
The hacked messages claims that they achieved root access, if that was indeed the case then the security breach was on your host. Root is a Unix concept and is the name of the master user, if the root was really hacked I imagine the entire host was attacked.

Hackers seem to run competitions to get the most references on a Google search, by hacking a host they could claim hundreds of sites in a single hit. A score of over 1 million results on Google is considered a reasonable score, but your hackers "Lover Team" used words which are commonplace on any web search, thus invalidating any result. In other words, they're newbs.

The conclusion one draws from this is that your host has been sucessfully attacked by a bunch of third rate idiots who are probably quite new to the hacking scene and are using downloadable tools.

I would suggest investigating a new host.
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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 12:32
Thanks a lot for that explanation adr, it described it perfectly (and in much more detail than I expected!). Cheers.


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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 15:57
hey Exeat!

2D6BEDCB9DACC1302B3A51BEE1EDD102!!!

There!!

ha ok... i forgot what that said....

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Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 16:04
Quote: "I would suggest investigating a new host."

That may be a good idea, after what I read on your post. They sound kind of unstable, and seem to not have the best security...

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##GERI##
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Posted: 14th Feb 2006 18:12
Most passwords and user names stealed via keyloggers.
Use virus killer. The best (free) is http://avast.com (free registration needed) AND use some antyspyware program too.
Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 01:39
Well, my host can't recognis me...

Now I can't cancle my old accound because they say my id is wrong... They can't just charge me until the card expires...

I got a new site, its in my sig, don't want to spam it.

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 01:52 Edited at: 3rd Mar 2006 01:55
well done ##GERI##, at least some1 here gets what probably happened 2 BNT Games website ^-^

The passwords can also be stolen via FTP password grabbers in-coded within the trojan servers then redirected back to the client trojan.

Btw yes the passwords can be cracked using Brute Force as some1 suggested above.. but that would be a script kiddie mistake if they wern't behind a few un-traceable proxy's... as their IP would be stored and could easily be traced back...

E.g. hey, y's this guy tried to log into his site over 1000 times, un-successfully within 2 minutes O_o

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 01:56
Ok. I'll have to refer back to this once and a while to keep myself informed on what todo while I set up my site completely.

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 04:31
Dont feel bad. There are many hacked sites to come. The web wars began and im not joking. Look at the site i posted on the thread for the other hacked site.

Its a big web war planned for a while. Team Lovers, Anarchy, ect.


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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 05:03
I guess now would be a good time to do a backup, just in case

Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 17:25
I have a backup of my whole site already after that happened.

And when they hacked my site, would they have access to my credit card, and other info, etc?

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 17:30
They could get it if :

A) You put your credit card details on the site
B) They knew it was there

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 17:33 Edited at: 3rd Mar 2006 17:34
Ok, thanks. It wasn't on the site.

Quote: "Recognise these? they were embedded within the source.

x_p@hotmail.co.uk

im0@hotmail.co.uk

r.root@yahoo.com"

Those appeared on the site if you looked long enough.

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