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Izzy545
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Wow. Simply freaking amazing. Apparently it was all rendered in one pass... Not sure what that means... I'm assuming it means it's rendered closer to real time than, say, Toy Story or Monsters Inc.?

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SirFire
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That is some awesome water. Did anyone else notice the CG guy's who-who was on fire? That's gotta hurt.

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Jeku
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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 08:14
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Holy crap! That is the most realistic water I've seen yet. Even more real than real.

Quote: "Apparently it was all rendered in one pass... Not sure what that means... "


A lot of scenes take several passes to render each image. For example it might render the 3D scene in a pure way, then a second pass for distortion (i.e. gas fume haze or water droplets or reflections, etc.), then more passes for more effects (i.e. western-style black and white, etc.). Finally you have your image with all the effects in.


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Well that impressed the hell out of the office. Always good to see the entire department gathered around my PC when the boss walks in Annoying how no-one else can be bothered to install QuickTime.

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i require the software, we need to remake jaws,but this time slightly more realistic, and more nude women.

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Benjamin
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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 10:17
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Quote: "and more nude women."

Amen to that.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 10:22
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Very cool - scary shark though, it's so good that most people would'nt assume it was CG, I'm not so convinced by the fire though, I thought that was fairly obvious CG.


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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 11:19
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The water bits when its jumping out of the water looked a bit lame to me (the water particles falling off), and the raising of the water level when the shark is just below the surface wasn't quite spot on but was close(in my opinion). Under water though - flippin hell - pretty damn impressive. I wouldn't know the difference if it wasn't for the moving arty camera angles.

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the second video had some good water flow sequences, like the browny water was good. All in all i could do that but I don't want to.

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w00t That is superb *loads c4d to try an attempt better without caring about polys*

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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 12:00 Edited at: 16th Feb 2006 12:37
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Yeah, I'd say this edges it from Flood which has for a long time been teh pwningest water simulator out there. The first shots of the ocean are unreal, as is the brown water flowing through the town.

Impressive that this was one pass, but there's no way it could be anywhere near real time. Solving the Navier-Stokes equations that accurately would whack it up into the "hours" band, rather than the "milliseconds". If it is close to real time, (and they're under 30) then there could be a Fields Medal waiting for them.

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Just realised, this is it. We finally hit absolute photo realism. Must be 10 years till it comes to games, 15 till it comes to handheld.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 15:34
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Quote: "Just realised, this is it. We finally hit absolute photo realism. "

well, almost hit... and only with water...

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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 16:13
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That is pretty sweet rendering, and I though the effects of Real Flow were sweet (actually I never took the time to install it, maybe I should)


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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 17:55
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What I meant was this was the first time I've seen something that I absolutely honestly can't tell at all is CG.

If you can tell that the attached clip is CG then you are lying.

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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 19:17
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Theres a quiz thingy on the Maya (I think it was Maya) website where you had to say which image was real and which was CG, got 7/10, if I can find the link I'll post it


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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 19:24 Edited at: 16th Feb 2006 19:26
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Is this it?:

http://www.alias.com/eng/etc/fake_or_foto/quiz.html

BTW there are 5 real, 5 CG.

I thought they were all CG to start with

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I just want to see the shark grab hold of the chopper....and.....

............I want to see that guy put out his chopper!!!


I got 8/10 in the test...

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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 23:11
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@Chris thats the one, thanks


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The bonus round was too easy. o_O
Got 4/4 on it. Got 5/10 in the first test.

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Yay! 9/10

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Wow...I'm totally blown away. The part where the shark jumped out of the water was a bit weird looking, but otherwise this was mind blowing. Those sharks looked so much better then the one Jaws...it's amazing...

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that water is sexay....it it 97% photorealistic to me, at least the ones with the white backgrounds

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My brother:

"Hmm, well, it's ok, kinda got unrealistic near the end..."

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9/10... too easy


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8/10...

i thought the mandrel would be CG since it's kind of a classic thing to make.. but it wasn't (i also thought the bell peppers were cg )

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Chris, 10/10 first try

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6/10 , well, i guess thats a good thing, shows how photorealistic things are becoming .

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8/10, I messed up on the coffee and the corkscrew

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9/10, lousy corkscrew.

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10/10, I could tell by the lighting mostly.
dont have quicktime, and don't want i-tunes, so couldn't see the shark vid.

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Quote: "Three out of ten answers were correct. "

that was crazy

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Bizar guy, there is a non-itunes version of quicktime available on their website, but it's VERY hard to find, and there are also QT alternatives out there.

I use a QT alternative and a Real(crap)player alternative.

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The QT standalone installer http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/standalone.html
here's a QT alternative http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/1049831315/1
and a Realplayer alternative http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/video_players/real_alternative.cfm

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SirFire, you're my hero. I would have never found that (I dbout it was even there the last time I checked).

That is absolutly amazing, by the way. Only problems were when the water stuck to the shark, and how the flames were a bit too reqular. if only the new star wars movies had looked that good. Heck, if you ask me, serenity looked better than the star wars movies, but that's probably because they didn't try fitting cgi into every second of the movie.

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Quote: "9/10"
Guess you didn't see the 5 are real, 5 are CGI comment.

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9/10, it was a guess between the bolt and the frozen beads as to which was which, and the first car render is really convincing - but I'd say we were miles away from photo realism.

I certainly hope someone is inspired to remake Jaws though, that would be cool to have some real shark horror again, Deep Blue Sea sucked.


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The first car picture nearly fooled me, it was just the number plate that deffinately looks CG.

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I saw that there was no difraction when viewing objects through the car's windows.

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The numberplates showed it up to me too. The focal blur wasn't right.


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And the car doesn't look like it's actually touching the paving stones, which are a little off too.

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And the buildings in the background looked a little too fuzzy--- like they were trying to hide low detail, rather than POV blur.


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