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Phaelax
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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 18:57
Lately, Oracle has been buying up all kinds of database companies. This article is about how they just tried to buy MySQL, but lost. Good! Oracle needs to realize why people don't use their software, it doesn't work! Every company(and school) I've seen using Oracle's database software hardly works.

http://news.com.com/Oracle+tried+to+buy+open-source+MySQL/2100-7344_3-6040197.html?tag=nefd.lede


BatVink
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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 21:21 Edited at: 16th Feb 2006 21:22
Quote: "Oracle needs to realize why people don't use their software"


The bad news is...people do buy Oracle. I work for one of the bigger ERP vendors in competition with them. Their target market is large enterprise companies, where they dominate alongside SAP. You can't say nobody buys Oracle!

Anyway...It's good that MySql is safe

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Posted: 16th Feb 2006 22:29 Edited at: 16th Feb 2006 22:31
We/I use (and thus all out customers) use Pervasive - I had thought about the possibility of converting the databases to a mySql format, but the process would be stupidly time consuming. Plus, some parts of mySQL isn't terribly stable, and overly complex.

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Posted: 17th Feb 2006 00:41
Quote: "Plus, some parts of mySQL isn't terribly stable, and overly complex."


Out of curiosity--- which parts?

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Posted: 17th Feb 2006 01:10
I've experiences a REALLY bad bug. I'm not 100% sure, but I THINK it involved something to do with UTF-8 tables on mysql 4. It really didn't like one of the characters used and corrupted the table. You could recover the table, but upon the next insert, it corrupted again. The only sollution was to restore the table to a previous backup and pray it didn't happen again. Its only recently been flagged as solved which means its now a fix going through testing. This bug was confirmed as a bug about a year ago!

MySQL is good and I prefer its syntax to Oracle. My IT Manager uses Oracle I think and it looks a git...

Phaelax
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Posted: 17th Feb 2006 08:36
I studied Oracle first, which is what my school uses, but I haven't really come across any syntax differences with mysql.


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Posted: 17th Feb 2006 10:12 Edited at: 17th Feb 2006 14:34
Quote: "Out of curiosity--- which parts?"

Its the service program - ie the ones that let you add users, assign privilage states. I'be had those crash a few times on me.

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Posted: 17th Feb 2006 13:17
I've found MySQL to be fairly stable - I've never had a random, MySQL-caused crash yet. I've had kernel panics, I've accidentally ran fsck on a mounted partition, I've ran out of disk space (damn binary logs ) all of which have buggered tables to one degree or another, but MySQL itself has never corrupted itself - not that I can remember anyway.

What really grinds me is MySQL's functionalty; it's "magic" behaviour sometimes. If I try to insert 129 characters into a 128 char field, I want a DB error. If I try to insert a float into an integer column, I want a DB error. I do not want MySQL to have a stab at what it thinks I might mean.

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Jeku
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Posted: 17th Feb 2006 18:14
Ahh, Stinky, I've never used the service program. When I had to modify user accounts I go into shell and manage them with SQL commands. Then at least I know that what I'm doing won't bork things up.

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Posted: 18th Feb 2006 07:01
I've been writing a program to interact with mysql. So when it's done, hopefully it should be easier to build and modify databases.


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