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Geek Culture / External HDD

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Oddmind
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Posted: 19th Feb 2006 20:30 Edited at: 19th Feb 2006 20:54
Ive found one im looking to use, 120 GB 7200 RPM USB 2.0 looks great but its only $80. there somethin im not seeing? the Cache is 2 mb is that really bad or something? this seems too good to be true. help a brotha out

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822154610

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Posted: 19th Feb 2006 20:55
chances that people will follow links in posts increases when you wrap the url in href tags in the forum message editor. I edited yours above.

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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 19th Feb 2006 21:18
I dont know what the exchange rate from USD to GBP is, right now, but you do know there is nothing special about an external hard disk dont you... espcially that one. Its simply a HD Caddy worth between £8 and £20 (say... $15 to $30). A 120Gb HD is worth about £40 (approx $70) so $80 is about right for that. You might be able to save yourself time and get a better setup if you get the two part seperately. Invest in a quick drive if its something you're gonna want transfer data to and from quickly otherwise, maybe do a google on reliability of hard disks?

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Posted: 19th Feb 2006 21:38
cache and spin speed aren`t realy an issue when you are stuffing the data down a USB2 cable anyway, they make great additions to your system for backups and archiving humungous video files, just dont try to play the latest games off one, they are more intended for storage than fast access.



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Posted: 19th Feb 2006 22:11
Eric T
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Posted: 19th Feb 2006 22:25
Quote: "just dont try to play the latest games off one, they are more intended for storage than fast access."


I actually play FEAR off of mine... and It runs just fine. My ram being speedy, and having a 1gb does help though. The only thing it really affects is loading times, a tid bit slower.

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Posted: 20th Feb 2006 10:04
exactly, if you had less ram as a buffer and a game that pulled more off the disk more frequently you would be stuttering around like an electrical engineer who just found out he forgot to isolate the mains before starting work



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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 20th Feb 2006 14:33
USB2.0 is pants for high speed transfer. If you have a firewire socket for your machine, get a drive that is firewire compatible. You'll easily double the throughput speed. The dual input ones are the best. In fact, if you have money to burn, the Lacie ones are very good with tri input (USB 2.0, Firewire 400 and Firewire 800!).

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Posted: 20th Feb 2006 17:34 Edited at: 20th Feb 2006 17:52
firewire and usb2 are almost the same speed (I thought), obviously firewire 800 is gonna be faster (quick web search later)

Quote: "USB 2.0 has a raw data rate at 480Mbps, and it is rated 40 times faster than its predecessor interface, USB 1.1, which tops at 12Mbps. Originally, USB 2.0 was intended to go only as fast as 240Mbps, but in October 1999, USB 2.0 Promoter Group pumped up the speed to 480Mbps.
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Quote: "FireWire 400 can transfer data between devices at 100, 200, or 400 Mbit/s data rates (actually 98.304, 196.608, or 393.216 Mbit/s, but commonly referred to as S100, S200, and S400). Although USB2 claims to be capable of higher speeds (480Mbit/s), FireWire is, in practice, faster. Cable length is limited to 4.5 metres but up to 16 cables can be daisy chained yielding a total length of 72 meters under the specification.
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firewire is between 16% and 60% faster than USB2 on sustained transfers (depending on if it`s read or write), so the difference isn`t that huge in real terms, my external drive is on firewire because I ran out of USB ports (all 14 of them including the powered hub), but used on USB on my laptop it can stream Hi-Res video files happily enough, so for all intents and purposes it`s fast enough (imo), the 800 you mentioned is probably what the quote would call S800 and not mentioned by the site I found so apparently it`s a new speed upgrade (like the USB people moved the goalposts) I assume it isn`t that common yet unless you have a newer MOBO or interface card, I don`t so I couldn`t realy comment on it, but it should obviously be much faster than USB2, neither is as fast as an internal eIDE or ATA drive though, best to keep software on internal drives (eIDE 17mbsec/ATA 33mbsec iirc) imo.



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Nicholas Thompson
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Posted: 20th Feb 2006 23:00
I think only Über new PC's and now most Macs support Firewire 800.

On my external drive, USB2.0 yields an average 11Mb/s. Firewire (400) on the otherhand wangs out about 25Mb/s. I also have found in the past the USB2.0 gets overloaded VERY quickly. I was transferring a few gigs of data (about 60) off my old machine with only USB2.0 on it and if I did anymore than 1 file at once windows just randomly lost the drive! This also happened to a friend of mine too (completely different PC setups too). Since using firewire, this limitation has gone.

USB is a seriously pants structure. MASSIVELY unstable in my experience. The only good things are:
1) Its brough a standard to the world
2) Its powered so small stuff doesn't need a mains plug (eg scanner, PSP, Mobile phone, etc)
3) You can hub them rather than having to daisy chain. The potential for up to 255 devices per socket is much better than 1 device being daisy chained!

JerBil
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Posted: 20th Feb 2006 23:09
Just put my old WD 60gig hd in a $30 external case.
It works fine, but runs pretty hot. If you
buy your own case, make sure it has a fan...

-JerBil

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