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Newcomers DBPro Corner / I'm having a hard time learning

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sinkler20
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Posted: 14th Mar 2003 01:44
hello,
I'm having a hard time learning programing. I try and work with the tuts(if they work or not) but it's not teaching me anything. I just end up coping what someone eles has written. ( I've have picked up a little). is there any books that me and others can get that will teach us better.
I just don't want to buy a "Basic" book and not 100% apply to dbpro.
any other suugestions are welcome.
thanks
Bishop
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Posted: 14th Mar 2003 01:53
If I might suggest,
When I first goit DB, I took a program(for me, the caverunner demo) and disected it line by line until I understood every command. When that was done, I took another more complicated one and did the same thing. Then just start trying things for yourself.

Bishop

"When you were born, you cried and the world rejoiced. Live so when you die, the world cries and you rejoice."
QuothTheRaven
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Posted: 14th Mar 2003 01:55
you should have started programming on a calculator...you alllllll should have....it taught me everything I will ever know about a programming language. But, as I remember, starting out is dangerously confusing. You dont know anything about anything in the field of programming, and dont understand what you're looking at. Basically, you have to learn simple commands, and what they do. You have to learn the basiscs of basic, which are usually:

Do loops
For loops
While loops
Variables
Variable manipulation and maths
Logical program flow
Functions, or some kind thereof

If you're really stuck, the best thing to do is have someone to talk to. If you have aim, reach me at either QuoteTheRavenX or DelvarWorld on instant messenger, because I've had a lot of experience showing people the way.

Darken the skies, we are god
Flashing Blade
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Posted: 14th Mar 2003 03:03
there is a book aimed at complete novices - there's a thread about it further down this board.
Obear
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Posted: 16th Mar 2003 23:55
Sinkler

OK i understand you dont want a any old basic book, but a %100 Dark Basic book.

But the thing about Dark basic or any kind of basic is that the way you program, varible, sub routeens, loops etc is basicly the same.

Why do you think that alot of people who have experience in other programing languages such as Visual basic, Pascal, Delphi etc can vertually start programing in DB straight away? Because the way you program is almost the same.

If this wasent the case, it would be very dificalt for anyone to start on a new language.

If you can produce a smal section fo code that prints a name on the screen and then loops serveral times over to print the same name over and over again in say Pascal. You can produce the same program no problem with DB Visual Basic Q Basic etc etc with very little change to the code.

TRy to stop limiting yourself to just learning DB, learnign other languages wont be a waist of time.

Learning to program and how programing structure works is what your haveing problems with. The actual Sytax or wording of these commands is no problem once you understand it.

The web is FULL of exaples online tutorials etc.

Check out some Visual basic stuff or some Q Basic stuff.

Murdock743
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Posted: 18th Mar 2003 02:15
I know how to program a ti-89 and ti-83+ and it wont help you with basic the langage is completly different.
Christian
what is with the cursor it types over wht you just wrote what is with that.

indi
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Posted: 18th Mar 2003 08:05
www.dbheaven.com isnt a bad read if your new to basic syntax and some game principles

Dave J
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Posted: 18th Mar 2003 08:55
Murdock, did you learn the Z-80 Assembly or TI-BASIC? Because TI-BASIC is very similar to any other basic language even Dark BASIC, the whole concept of variables, loops and conditional statements is the same. Of course, there are slight differences but overall they're very similar.

"Computers are useless they can only give you answers."
Megaman Zero
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Posted: 18th Mar 2003 09:01
Might I suggest that you find a Basic Course & take that, it probably wont be free, but it will get you started in the right direction. I took a programming course in QBasic for 1 year (age 8), & after that one year, I taught myself the rest, it really isnt that hard, until you get into the 3D stuff, even though we all have our share of problems.

By the way, if you can learn the newest version of QBasic, it will help more than anything less, as they made the newest the best & most like DBPro.

Anyway, that should get you started to learn with variables, arrays, & other stuff, but it will probably cost some cash to learn. All the price of making a game I guess (for complete newbies to basic.)

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