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Geek Culture / XP: Home or Pro

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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 21:32
I know Home is cheaper, but Pro seems to work good with me. So, what are the differences between them? Because I might build a brand new pc when I have the money to do so.
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 21:43 Edited at: 3rd Mar 2006 21:44
Pro is better for business, and companies like Expedia (my dad works there!) with better network tools, etc. Home is the basic windows xp.

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 21:54
Home is very very lacking...

I will never ever install Home on another computer

It's missing some things, mostly networking tools and stuff.


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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 21:58
It's not "very very" lacking. Just if you want to setup a network domain. Also you can't do ASP.NET dev in Visual Studio 2005 in Home, which makes absolutely no sense but there you go.

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 22:52
Windows XP Media Center 2005... cheaper than Home, and has everything Professional does. Kinda silly to think about but seriously the best choice.
Or just wait until Vista comes out in a few months. meh

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 23:07
jeku, because Home doesnt have IIS among other things.

IMHO Home is for grannies, get PRO

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David R
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 23:08
Also, a vast quantity of M$ SDK's don't install on Home (The MS Speech application SDK which I have doesn't install on home, not to mention several others on the MS page)

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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 23:11
it's not designed for developers so why should they?

David R
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 23:14
Quote: "it's not designed for developers so why should they?"


I never meant to imply that they should install on Home. But getting XP Home means that you shut out a lot of cool SDK's and tools that you can use with pro.

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SpyDaniel
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Posted: 3rd Mar 2006 23:15
Pro costs around £200 doesnt it? I need a new copy, and iam not likely to pay £200 for an OS any time soon. I would if I some how got £5000 .

I thought Pro was the best. Ill have to wait untill I get some money.
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Posted: 4th Mar 2006 02:40
Quote: " Pro costs around £200"

I bought my copy of XP Pro for about $130 (oem version). Not sure what that would be in the UK though. I understand you guys really get ripped off on computer stuff there.

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Posted: 4th Mar 2006 02:54 Edited at: 4th Mar 2006 03:03
Quote: "I understand you guys really get ripped off on computer stuff there."


As long as you don't convert dollars to pounds and expect that to be the price you'd pay for it over here then you're okay.

If however, you buy something from a site that only sells in dollars, you might only have to pay the conversion price. But not always.

If £200 if a bit more than you want to pay my advice would be to try and save money in other areas. Ebay is a great place for cheap software, obviously you should always think twice and check the feedback but if you're looking for Office or Adobe software there's a few people who buy it in bulk and sell it cheap on eBay. Or you could go the freeware route if you want to make massive savings.

It's also worth looking at OEM software. iirc the law states that it's only to be used by the people that build the computers but you're building yours so there ya go. I'd even go so far as to say that plugging in a keyboard, mouse, speakers and monitor counts as building.

And if you hear of a computer fair that's not too far away grab a fistful of notes and indulge yourself in some money saving shenanigans of the computer kind.

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Posted: 4th Mar 2006 03:41
i get mine for free from my college

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Posted: 4th Mar 2006 03:51
The only difference I could see was that

Pro = Blue
Home = Green

But, I guess you get what you pay for...

Gowmars
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Posted: 4th Mar 2006 13:41
Pro has much better networking features.

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Posted: 4th Mar 2006 15:11
by far, as well as options like easy changing of password, lock computer, various backup tools, and the ability to stripe drives.

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Posted: 4th Mar 2006 22:28
Quote: "as well as options like easy changing of password, lock computer, various backup tools, and the ability to stripe drives."


Home has those options too. Like I said, there's not a *big* difference between the two that most people will notice.

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Posted: 5th Mar 2006 06:48
Home "techically" has several of the networking features that Pro does...
As the installation just doesn't install/activate them, yet they still do exist on a non-edited home cd. Activatable by changing something.... that part was hardly clear :p.

I would care less what an operating system was DESIGNED to do, XP was designed to use up resources.... that is All I see it doing... but the question is what it SHOULD do. It SHOULD be able to support everything that it's counterparts does. Expecally since it's counterpart is itself with a few things turned on. Now this leads to a very obvious conclusion, M$ sucks, and they are riging products to only run on specific OS's because they want you to pay more money for stuff you don't need.

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Posted: 5th Mar 2006 06:54
you cant stripe drives or have dynamic partitions in home.... im almost sure...

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Posted: 5th Mar 2006 07:06
Quote: "XP was designed to use up resources.... "


Not this again.

Quote: "Now this leads to a very obvious conclusion, M$ sucks, and they are riging products to only run on specific OS's because they want you to pay more money for stuff you don't need"


Umm, Microsoft didn't start the trend of having Pro versions of software. It is widely used by many different companies. And the difference in price between Home and Pro XP is *negligable* to most businesses, of whom MS made Pro for. I for one am happy to have had a price cut when I purchased Home back in 2002.

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Posted: 5th Mar 2006 07:09 Edited at: 5th Mar 2006 07:11
re faze... Mabey not with enclosed software, but definatly with third party software.

Jeku, I don't understand what your statment has to do with my post... then again, I never do.

If software that works on PRO will not work on HOME then there is definat software blocks. They are both the same platform, except 1 has networking features unlocked.

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Posted: 6th Mar 2006 00:08
when i said the striped drive thing, i didnt mean its impossible , you just cant do it out of the box with xp home
you can do backups and striping/dynamic drives more than likely, just you have to use third party software

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Posted: 6th Mar 2006 01:31
Quote: "Also you can't do ASP.NET dev in Visual Studio 2005 in Home, which makes absolutely no sense but there you go."


Quote: "because Home doesnt have IIS among other things."


Although Pro is needed to run (non-server)IIS, which used to rule out Home for ASPNET dev work, ASPNET 2005 dev is possible using XP home as VS2005 comes with a quickrun ASPNET web server that will run on Home edition.
JoelJ
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Posted: 6th Mar 2006 03:28
Quote: "cheaper than Home, and has everything Professional does."

I thought media center restricts which hard ware you can have? so that would cause problems for some people would it not?

Quote: "and they are riging products to only run on specific OS's because they want you to pay more money for stuff you don't need."

if you don't need it, why do you buy it? get HOME if you don't need PRO...


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Posted: 6th Mar 2006 09:39
Quote: "Jeku, I don't understand what your statment has to do with my post... then again, I never do."


You seem to be the only one having problems "understanding" my posts. If you read your post, then mine, it makes as much sense as the sky is blue. Quit baiting me for an argument

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Posted: 6th Mar 2006 09:59
Hooking up to a network server?

Get Pro.

Hooking up to a basic home network?

Get Home.


Personally, I find that you can get Home to behave nicely on a network, but if you want to securely share resources and files then Pro makes things a lot easier.

The annoying thing, is that that 98se did it all, no Pro or Home version, it just did it's job without expecting more money for it. M$ stripped out the networking on XP Home so they could charge more for XP Pro, not so they could charge less for XP Home. I mean, £200 for an operating system is rediculous, the OS should never cost more than the PC it's running on, that's beyond a joke.


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Posted: 6th Mar 2006 13:25
Regarding the price of XP Pro in the UK - a recent trip to a local PC World store in Swindon showed the following:

XP Pro (Full Version): £269.99
XP Pro (Upgrade): £169.99

Unfairly, the upgrade was for Win98 onwards - so even though the lappy I brought came with XP home - the upgrade was the same price as it would be if I'd just had some old Win98 machine.

Rip-off britain again. ESPECIALLY considering Windows Vista is out this year so XP is practically out of date already.
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Posted: 6th Mar 2006 16:56
remember that the oem version is identical to the full version, so buy a fan and an os and you will save yourself tonnes of money

i use pro on all my machines here as i just prefer it, mainly because it has more mmc snap ins mainly things which you wouldnt use from a day to day basis but are good for when things go bad - which is quite often.

as far as i know media centre edition is a full version of xp pro with just a different ui(which you can change) and an extra program under accessories and obviously not forgetting that it is a lot cheaper than pro


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Posted: 6th Mar 2006 17:13
PRO works as a server for 5 computer or something
HOME works as a client for PRO

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JoelJ
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Posted: 6th Mar 2006 17:37
Quote: "XP Pro (Full Version): £269.99
XP Pro (Upgrade): £169.99"

you guys are truly getting ripped off...
Microsoft Windows XP Professional Upgrade with SP2 $199.95


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David R
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Posted: 6th Mar 2006 17:39 Edited at: 6th Mar 2006 17:39
Quote: "you guys are truly getting ripped off..."


Nope, Swindon is getting ripped off. In my local store, you can get Full XP Pro for £128

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Posted: 6th Mar 2006 22:38 Edited at: 6th Mar 2006 22:39
I beat Bill Gates to death with a pipe and all I got for it was Windows XP Pro.

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Posted: 13th Mar 2006 00:55
Don't forget that other version of windows. I think the name was "Media Center Edition" or something like that. Sorry if this was posted above, I didn't have time to read lol.

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