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Aoneweb
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Posted: 9th Mar 2006 01:48
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How many people in the USA have bought this book, I was thinking about buying it, but before I part with my $85, do you think it was worth the price.
This is not a put down, but $85 to me is like 85 GBP to some one back home, you will agree thats a lot of dosh.

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Torsten Sorensen
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Posted: 9th Mar 2006 02:26
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Definately worth the price.

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Aoneweb
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Posted: 9th Mar 2006 17:06
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OK, so only on person in the US has this book?

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Posted: 9th Mar 2006 22:20
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I don't understand why it has to be only people in the US but hey ho. There's a few people's opinions on the book in this thread -> http://forum.thegamecreators.com/?m=forum_view&b=1&t=64686&p=4

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Grog Grueslayer
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Posted: 10th Mar 2006 01:47
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They add $22 to ship it to the US.


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power mousey
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Posted: 10th Mar 2006 02:25
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hey, Aoneweb....

this is power mousey

true....I still use 'Captain Flash' cause its from one of my favorite low budge sci-films( a cult flick) called 'the Projectionist' and starring Chuck McGann and Rodney Dangerfield...which was his first movie.

anyway...I was thinking of buying this DBPRO book. Here are some of the reasons: BlitzMax is a much more difficult language, and the docs are very poor and the over-all language is still quirky. I heard and its rumored that Sibly is going to a complete re-write of another 2d game engine. Yet, thats just rumors on the blitz site.
Another reason that I was considering to buy this book: well...um I got tired of waiting for Cobra. Don't get me wrong. I'm probably one of the biggest fans and the Cobra Cleric when it comes to Cobra.
I just got tired of waiting for it to be released. And way over one year..is just too long for me. Besides, the 'powers that be over there' could of released a section of Cobra at a time...like, the Cobra core and with some 2d commands. Then work will progress and sell both an advanced 2d and then 3d command paks as well.
No doubt, when Cobra is eventually released...probably sometime during Summer or probably after the Nintendo Revolution comes out
I will definitely try Cobra out..maybe then, buy it. I will become the Cobra Cleric again.

Now, back to the DBPRO book. I think 85 dollars is just too much. So, I bought Pure Basic instead. Yet, I'm looking forward to the second DBPRO book and I will save up and buy this book. I'm pretty much comfortable with some of the 2d and 2d programming.

Now, Im back into Dark Basic and working on my Anubis project in 3d for Dark Basic. The one in Blitz3d is finished. I'm just porting it over...inorder to re-learn Dark Basic. Especially, the 3d application and game programming.

Sorry, for the long winded post...but I guess thats from the cheese I eat that I derive the power for the power mousey.

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Megaton Cat
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Posted: 10th Mar 2006 12:05
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Dunno why people from Canada scrambled to order and wait for this book - it's been in your local Chaptors for ages!

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Aoneweb
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Posted: 10th Mar 2006 14:16
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Thanks for your answers, I know the book is a good one, by the reveiws on this forum, I just dont know if it's worth $85, like I said before, A Dollar to me now, is worth the same as a Pound to me back home, I can get about the same in value where I live, cost of Liv and all, so for me to buy this book, will be like you guys back home in Britain having to pay 85 pounds for it, you would all have a different attitude then I am sure.

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Sounds like a hot item. I wouldn't mind having it either but $22 to ship to the US and the $85 for the book? I'm half a mind on this. One I understand good programming books cost money but the other half says be realistic in pricing.

Ahh well I'll still hope to get one just a "when" is the question.

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$85 was including the shipping of $22.
I agree, the US market doesen't seem to get thre best of deals from TGC, amoung others, it always seems to me, if you make something more accessible, you would increse you sales.

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When I had an Amiga I spent £350 on books about C in one day.

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Read the thread I linked to and you'll see plenty of people have warbled on about pricing (and how un-fair some of them think it is).

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I was part of that thread, I want the book, but in England, you get it half the price we do in the USA, discrimination? Yes due to where we live, the publisher could make it more affordable to North America, and still make a profit, but greed will not allow them to do this, or is there another reason.

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I know this isn't the sympathy you were looking for, but as a European who's sick and tired of being overcharged for just about everything from DVDs to books to CDs for years, my sympathy for someone over in the US who complains about higher prices and shipping is not overflowing.

When your CDs, DVDs, books are on average more expensive than ours, and you have to wait an extra 4+ months for games and films to come out over there after somewhere else, then I may have more sympathy. Sorry.
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Well its not as if Aoneweb (or any of us other states citizens other than the manufacturers) has any control over the price of DVDs in the UK...

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Posted: 11th Mar 2006 20:16 Edited at: 11th Mar 2006 20:18
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Quote: "publisher could make it more affordable to North America, and still make a profit, but greed will not allow them to do this, or is there another reason."


How exactly could it be made more affordable to North America and still allow the publisher to make a profit? Do you automatically think just because someone adds an extra charge for sending a book to another country then they are greedy?

ANY programming book worth its salt will be more expensive than a normal run-of-the-mill novel becuase it's being sold to a smaller audience.

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 00:17 Edited at: 12th Mar 2006 00:22
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Quote: "I know this isn't the sympathy you were looking for, but as a European who's sick and tired of being overcharged for just about everything from DVDs to books to CDs for years, my sympathy for someone over in the US who complains about higher prices and shipping is not overflowing.

When your CDs, DVDs, books are on average more expensive than ours, and you have to wait an extra 4+ months for games and films to come out over there after somewhere else, then I may have more sympathy. Sorry."

I pay $15 on CD's, to me that’s the same as paying 15 GBP, but because you convert the amount to pounds, and come up with 8 pounds, you think we are getting CD'S cheaper.
I moved to the US back in Aug 2000, so I know the difference in cost of living here and in the UK, and $85 is a lot of money to me.

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How exactly could it be made more affordable to North America and still allow the publisher to make a profit? Do you automatically think just because someone adds an extra charge for sending a book to another country then they are greedy?"


Research the cost of books on Amazon.co.uk, then Amazon.com, and you may find that the prices do not reflect exchange rates, if they did, we would not be able to afford most computer books, publishers know this, so they have to adjust the price for overseas markets to create sales.

Amazon.co.uk: Windows XP home 78.97 GBP, converted into dollars, it would cost: $136.32
Amazon.com: Windows XP home 98.99, and it doesen't cost $22. to ship.

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Sorry for spamming, but if anyone in NA, decide to sell there copy of Hands on, I would be intrested, I just cant afford $85 right now.

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Posted: 14th Mar 2006 00:41
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I have been trying ebay and amazon, but no used books have shown up yet.
Anyone see one let me know.

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Posted: 14th Mar 2006 03:45
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I will be very surprised to see many show up anytime soon.

From posts on this forum. The book is too good a resource for anyone to just scan and dispose of; for anyone serious, and anyone not serious would be very slow to fork out the money required to buy this book.

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I can't afford $85 right now, doesn't make me any less serious about owning it.

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Well there's obviously going to be nobody here who would sell it, as the book just came out recently. You'll have to keep checking out ebay or maybe ask your local library to purchase it?


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Of course theres always that "other" book...

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Don't even joke Saikoro. I read it Borders once and lost a few vital brain cells in the process.

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If you're talking about 'Game Programming with Darkbasic' I think it's a great book. Okay, so it'll be a bit out-dated by now but for someone who had never programmed before (short of moving a blue triangle left and right in YABASIC) it was GREAT back in 2003. I pity the fool who would have had to explain loops, ifs, variables and what-not to me if I didn't have a copy of that book.

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