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Killswitch
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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 21:16
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For some strange reason us Londoners decided to hae our St. Patricks day celebrations today! I headed down to Trafalger Square with 4 of my friends and had, quite simpley, the most fun I've had in ages. It was helped by the fact I met a nice girl who took a shinte to me .

Did anyone else take part in the festivities - if not DEFFINATLY go (well, unless you live 100s of miles away) next year! It's brilliant!

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i thought the brits didnt like the irish?

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Quote: "i thought the brits didnt like the irish?"

I get this in the US all the time, I thought you English didn't like the Irish, Scottish, French and Germans, one guy in a bar said, I thought you English don't like the Brits.
Another idiot in a bar said to me, Oh I am Irish, I ask "really, where do you come from" meaning what part of Ireland, he said Boston.
Oh well, back to my hating activities.

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 21:48
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Well, theres a pretty big difference in saying that you are Irish (meaning you have Irish ancestors) and saying that you were born in Ireland.

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 21:49
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Quote: "i thought the brits didnt like the irish?"


What? Hate a nation that has a fantastic history of producing quality ale in many varieties? I think not!

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 21:55
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I am so under-educated I don't even know the difference between the Brits & the Irish.

They're both just people with accents to me.

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 22:18
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Quote: "Well, theres a pretty big difference in saying that you are Irish (meaning you have Irish ancestors) and saying that you were born in Ireland."


People here believe if they have Irish or whatever ancestors, that makes them Irish, even though they have never been as close to a 1000 miles to Ireland, they still think that is there homeland.
I had an Irish dad, hence my last name O'Shea, my mother is English, and I was born in London, as far as I and the US Gov are concerned, I AM ENGLISH, very simple, and I don't wanna be anything else, I am proud to be English, and Love living in Tucson.

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I wish I was Mexican.

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how do they tell the difference between each other anyways? Ive looked at plenty of both and aside from the voice, I really cant pick out which one is which.

Quote: " I wish I was Mexican."

no you dont

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Posted: 12th Mar 2006 23:43
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We use telepathic communications.

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Quote: " We use telepathic communications."


but seriously, can you visibly tell the difference or is there some kind of cue?

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Posted: 13th Mar 2006 00:31
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You can't tell the difference between Scottish, Welsh, English, Irish and N. Irish accents?

What are you, deaf?

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Quote: "but seriously, can you visibly tell the difference or is there some kind of cue?"


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Quote: "but seriously, can you visibly tell the difference or is there some kind of cue?"
Well, I can't tell the difference between a french person and an english person, so I bet you can't do it with Irish and Brittish either.

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Yes the English have an E stamped on their foreheads, the Scottish an S and so on.
But seriously, can you visibly tell the difference between the people from Mexico, Cuba, and Nicaragua.
Why do I feel a even more stupid answer coming up.

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Posted: 13th Mar 2006 01:40
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Quote: "People here believe if they have Irish or whatever ancestors, that makes them Irish, even though they have never been as close to a 1000 miles to Ireland, they still think that is there homeland.
I had an Irish dad, hence my last name O'Shea, my mother is English, and I was born in London, as far as I and the US Gov are concerned, I AM ENGLISH, very simple, and I don't wanna be anything else, I am proud to be English, and Love living in Tucson."


As far as I'm concerned, if your parents are both Irish, you're Irish as well, you can't discount what's in your blood simply because you're born in another country. That's why you'd refer to him as an Irish American, of Irish decent but of American citizenship. Just look at African Americans, I'm sure most of them have never even set foot in Africa.


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Quote: "As far as I'm concerned, if your parents are both Irish, you're Irish as well, you can't discount what's in your blood simply because you're born in another country."

Not according to the American Government, I tried to get my green card on the basis of my Irish descent, you see Ireland has a green card lottery, the US embassy said NO, you were born in England, there for you are English.
Now who said that if you have Irish parents, you can claim you are Irish, and if that’s the case get an Irish passport, guess what, it wont happen, oh and guess what, an African American’s passport, does not say it’s an African American passport, it says it is a USA passport, the rest are just political correct labels.

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I think you completely missed the part where I mentioned CITIZENSHIP. It's not a difficult concept, there's heritage and citizenship, the latter of which grants you special rights and privileges in that country. Just because you have a US citizenship, doesn't mean you no longer belong to your genetic bloodline. There's a distinct line between the two.


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Quote: "But seriously, can you visibly tell the difference between the people from Mexico, Cuba, and Nicaragua.
Why do I feel a even more stupid answer coming up."

actually often you can, as well as that I can differentiate carribbean blacks from African americans and native Africans. Just wondering whether it was the same kind of thing.

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Quote: "I think you completely missed the part where I mentioned CITIZENSHIP. It's not a difficult concept, there's heritage and citizenship, the latter of which grants you special rights and privileges in that country. Just because you have a US citizenship, doesn't mean you no longer belong to your genetic bloodline. There's a distinct line between the two."

What special rights and privileges, are you kidding me, some places in Ireland, you would get the Cr@p kicked out of you if they hear a English accent, you could tell them all day long you were Irish, they would laugh in your face, I know it's happend to me, so please don't insult my intelligence with "it's not a difficault concept" cr#p, I have seen with my own eyes, what a IRA bomb does to people with Special rights and privlages.

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I think what he means is for example, a person of Mexican descent is born in America, that person then becomes an American citizen, although he is really Mexican. Then that child gets the rights and privleges(sp?) that a person of American descent born in America would get. It's actually something that is common in California, and many of you have heard of, Mexicans jumping the border illegaly and having their babies in America. That legally makes them American citizens, so they have the advantages of being an American citizen as opposed to a Mexican one.

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Saikoro: I was just writing something along them lines myself, but let's not get in to a flamewar over this, I just know as far as the Law is concerned, I am am English citizen, born in England, and now Living in sunny Arizona, and lovin it.

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Oh god, I don't think I could've made it clearer. Special rights don't refer to how people treat you, they refer to legal advantages, i.e. social service, pensions, grants, etc. I know down here, every Australian citizen (regardless of decent) is entitled to a student loan for University that doesn't have to be paid off until full-time work is undertaken, however, foreign students can't get this benefit. Although, citizens also have duties and responsibilities, i.e. jury duty, something you won't be required to do because of your English citizenship.


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My mom knew this woman at work who was dating a guy from Ireland. He was so awesome. He said to her, "Do you have any Irish in you?" except in that awesome accent, and she said no so he said, "Would you like some?"



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Posted: 13th Mar 2006 04:04 Edited at: 13th Mar 2006 04:05
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On a related note, theres a Saint Patricks Day faire that goes on around where I live, filled with all sorts of cool olden celtic type events and things to see, and I might be visiting that. Last time I went I had a blast, it was geared more towards people who were interested in, say, weapons and history of weapons. I was lucky enough to meet one of the weapon designers? of Diablo II, he was holding an small section teaching about the weapons of the past and their uses, I had a good, fun couple of hours talking to that guy. Interesting character.

Edit: Just read the above post... Did he say that to your mom? If so, why are you lauging about it

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It is clear Exeat, you have never been any further than your back yard, I am living in America, and I have a green card, I am entitled to social security and pensions, coz I pay into them just like citizens do, you are right in saying I can't do jury service, or vote, but I wont let that get me down, like I said before, I was born in England, I am English, my father was Irish, my Mother born to Irish parents in England, that does not make me Irish in anyway, not you or your God can change that.
I rest my case.

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Okay, lets not have a flamewar here... I'm sure Exeat isn't trying to put you down in any way, Aoneweb, he's merely explaining the laws of science when it comes to heritage along with the laws of the government when it comes to citizenship...

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Quote: "I think you completely missed the part where I mentioned CITIZENSHIP. It's not a difficult concept"

Sounds like a put down to me.

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Well, in your post, it seemed as though you had failed to take notice of what he had to say about citizenship. The last remark he made in your quote may have had a tinge of put down with it, but we don't need to flame other peoples threads about it.

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There is no reason to get sarky about it, I don’t remember asking for an opinion in the first place, but please, I am a 46 year old man, I have worked in England, Germany and the US, I have traveled a large part of the world, from north Africa, to eastern Europe, I know the difference between heritage and citizenship, but as far as the, you have Irish in your blood stuff, it's garbage, you are who you are, get used to it, there is no reason to blowviate.

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Don't you hate it when people can't admit when they're wrong? We only need to go as far as the colour of someone's skin and their physical appearance to prove genetics exist. Either way, I'm going to leave it at that because you can't persuade the stubborn.


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Quote: "Don't you hate it when people can't admit when they're wrong? We only need to go as far as the colour of someone's skin and their physical appearance to prove genetics exist."

Who the hell mentioned genetics, have you lost it, put the Fosters down and read the posts again, I have this feeling you confess to being from another nation, do you tell people you are Irish coz your parents are Irish, but you were born in Australia, and you don’t like that, I warm aren’t I?
Admit I am wrong coz you say so, I doubt it.

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whoa calm down, we all know who we are, no need to argue.

so, anybody get drunk?

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No, but I pulled

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Quote: "how do they tell the difference between each other anyways? Ive looked at plenty of both and aside from the voice, I really cant pick out which one is which."


OK...that's like saying you can't tell the difference between someone from New York and New Jersey by looking at them.

However...people from Scotland and Northern Ireland do have more of a blue tint to them, even in the Summer. The Republic of Ireland is different altogether, it can reach over 5 degrees celcius in the Summer.

And although the Scots and Irish will say that we just can't take the cold, which is absolutely correct, they won't deny it's not the warmest of places to be!

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Scotland is damn harsh sometimes - I live near the coast, so we don't get snow for long, but we get horrible cold winds and drizzle. It's not exactly the antarctic, but cold enough to kill you if your not careful. Really though, Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales, wherever you go, the weather is crud most of the time.

The annoying thing for me is the gimmicks, I mean it's Guinness all over the place - that stuff sucks, take those stupid hats off and drink something you'll enjoy you nonce!. I can't stand Irish theme pubs, it's like sitting inside a skip, bit's of old horse brass and rusty bikes, it's about as Irish as Sudoku.


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Quote: "I can't stand Irish theme pubs...it's about as Irish as Sudoku"


Correctamundo! Talk about Stereotyping a nation!

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so ill take that as a no. so people the IRA could get along with brits if everybody keeps their mouths shut

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