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Fallout
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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 00:40 Edited at: 4th Apr 2006 23:17
EDIT: Ok, got all the results I need. No need to waste your time if you haven't done so all ready!!!

Guys, if you could answer this questionnaire for me, that would be grand. In order to answer it you'll have to download two fairly heafty videos (cos they're in high-res). They're about 16MB each. I appologise in advance as they probably won't be all that new to you.

Movie A
Movie B

Here's my questionnaire documents, horribly ported to the forum. If you can reply with the question number/letter and the answer, that'd be superb. For those that know what this is for (which is probably most of you) please do not spare my feelings! Firstly, I'm really not bothered, secondly I probably already know the answer, and thirdly realistic accurate results are far more important ...

Computer Game Questionnaire

To answer this questionnaire, access will be required to the two short videos that accompany it. Both videos combined run for just over 2 minutes. This questionnaire is intended to be taken by a single person, and “you” refers to this person.

Please circle the appropriate answer

1.a. Do you play computer games?
Yes / No

b. If yes, do you play RTS (Real-Time Strategy) games?
Yes / No / Don’t Know

2. Have you ever played Command & Conquer: Generals?
Yes / No / Don’t Know


To answer the following questions you must watch Video A and Video B. You may watch them as many times as you like to assist you in answering these questions. Please tick the box that best describes your level of agreement with each statement:

(For each statement just write Strongly Disagree, Disagree, Neutral, Agree, or Strongly Agree next to the question/statement number)

3. On average, Video A has more objects on screen than Video B.

4. On average, the objects in Video A appear to have more physical complexity than in Video B.

5. The explosion, smoke and vehicle trail effects in Video A are visually more appealing than in Video B.

6. There are more explosion, smoke and vehicle trail effects in Video A than in Video B.

7. The shadows cast by the objects are more convincing / accurate in Video A than in Video B.

8. Ignoring background music, the sound effects quality in Video A is better than in Video B.

9. I would consider purchasing the game demonstrated in Video A.

10. I would consider purchasing the game demonstrated in Video B.

Please circle the appropriate answer

11. Which video do you believe shows the best game?
Video A / Video B

12. Please describe which features you believe make this game better than the other game.


Thanks for your time guys. Anyone qualifies to answer this questionnaire, so don't be shy!

Peter H
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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 01:10 Edited at: 4th Apr 2006 01:10
1.a Yes
1.b Yes
2 No

3 Strongly Agree
4 Agree
5 Neutral
6 Agree
7 Neutral
8 Disagree

i wouldn't consider buying either... is that an option?

11 Movie A

12 More action, larger variety of units. More attractive color balance.



(personally i think your game is way better for the amount of man hours put into it ... considering they worked on their game for at least a year with an entire team and yours was a one man game, but the questions don't ask that)

--Peter

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 01:41
1a) yes
1b) yes
2) no
3) agree
4) agree
5) neutral
6) agree
7) disagree
8) agree
9) neutral
10) agree
11) video B (gasp!)
12) I liked the slower combat and gameplay of game B. Game A seemed too fast-paced and less controllable than game B. Also, all of the explosions and particle effects in game A were too distracting from the actual gameplay, while those in game B were just enough to catch your eye, but not enough to distract you.


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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 01:44 Edited at: 4th Apr 2006 01:44
Thanks peter! 9 and 10 are separate statements, so yes you can agree/disagree with each of them separately. Thanks for your response and comments. I never really had a prayer competing with C&C:Generals, but that doesnt matter. It's more my scientific approach for this project, hense why it doesn't matter if C&C:Generals comes out on top (which it will. )

Edit: And thanks milk. Posted at the same time.

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 02:17 Edited at: 4th Apr 2006 02:19
1a. Yes
1b. No

2. No

3. Agree

4. Agree

5. Agree (only because of the smoke lingering in video a and well i like smoke )

6. Agree

7. Disagree (both look equal in terms but there are more objects in a to cast more shadowing)

8. Disagree (with the exception of the soldiers commentary both are fairly equal)

9\10 Don't depends on if i liked a demo of either.

11. Video a only because of what i mentioned above.

12. No features that i can see make video a a better game besides the more polished look actually looking again at the videos, video a although has a more polished look to it, the scene show is almost to chaotic at least for my taste i like strategic type games and video b looks like you could actually be able to plan or maneuver your vehicles for a ambush, video a looks like a bunch of stuff just thrown in a city block and repeated attack attack taking out the thought but again im only going on the short clip since i have played neither game.

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Cian Rice
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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 03:20
1a) Yes
1b) Yes
2) Yes

3) Agree
4)Agree
5) Strongly Agree
6) Strongly Agree
7)Neutral
8)Neutral
9)Agree
10) Strongly Agree
11) Showed actual on foot troops fighting and attempting to take down vehicles adding more realism since war doesn't always have just vehicles fighting (in fact very rarley is that the case ((actually it would seem to be never))
12) Use of Newton for destruction so when something explodes it's more like C&C's Generals video was. And so we can see the flying of the bodies as they are hit by rockets in a more epic fashion then it currently is. The visual appeal of the game would be equal if higher resolution textures were also used. And maybe some mapping to add more depth to the vehicles etc?

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 04:21 Edited at: 4th Apr 2006 04:21
Anime Blood, did you even read the last two questions?

Quote: "
11. Which video do you believe shows the best game?
Video A / Video B

12. Please describe which features you believe make this game better than the other game."



Xander
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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 04:41 Edited at: 4th Apr 2006 04:43
1.a. Yes

b. Yes

2. Yes

3. Agree

4. Agree

5. Strongly Agree

6. Strongly Agree

7. Disagree

8. Agree

9. Strongly Agree (I already have, haha)

10. Neutral

11. Video A

12. There are multiple features which I find more appealing in Video A. The voiceovers add a realism to the game that is not demonstrated in Video B. Also, the quality of the texturing appears to be much higher in Video A. The explosion effects, a great selling point to me, are much more interesting in Video A also, with the cars flying into the air, then blowing up into pieces. I did not like to see the tanks run over the already blown up tanks in Video B, that put me off slightly. And there could be more action when a tank explodes. There just seemed to be more going on in Video A, making it more exciting

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There, I was as truthful as possible...but did you actually make the game in Video B? That's really awesome if you did, nice job. But you're mean...you are making me want to go play C&C Generals...I just bought it and have barely played, but I must work on my game!

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 05:06
1.a Yes
1.b Yes
2. Yes
3. Agree
4. Agree
5. Disagree
6. Agree
7. Strongly Agree
8. Disagree
9. Agree
10. Agree
11. Video A
12. Shadows is a major boost. Textures are also more high resolution. Trees swaying, and the variation between them, along with the rolling hills in background make a more lifelike scene. A new ground image for Video B with some detail mapping would help out. Video B is shot from a higher camera angle, so it makes the area feel much less populated and less like an actual city area as seen in Video B.

Overall, Your project is coming along very nicely I must say. Just trying to give you as good of a critique as possible.



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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 05:37
Please circle the appropriate answer

1.a. Do you play computer games?
Yes

b. If yes, do you play RTS (Real-Time Strategy) games?
No
2. Have you ever played Command & Conquer: Generals?
No


To answer the following questions you must watch Video A and Video B. You may watch them as many times as you like to assist you in answering these questions. Please tick the box that best describes your level of agreement with each statement:

(For each statement just write Strongly Disagree, Disagree, Neutral, Agree, or Strongly Agree next to the question/statement number)

3. On average, Video A has more objects on screen than Video B.
Nuetral
4. On average, the objects in Video A appear to have more physical complexity than in Video B.
agree
5. The explosion, smoke and vehicle trail effects in Video A are visually more appealing than in Video B.
strongly disagree
6. There are more explosion, smoke and vehicle trail effects in Video A than in Video B.
nuetral
7. The shadows cast by the objects are more convincing / accurate in Video A than in Video B.
nuetral
8. Ignoring background music, the sound effects quality in Video A is better than in Video B.
strongly disagree
9. I would consider purchasing the game demonstrated in Video A.
strongly disagree
10. I would consider purchasing the game demonstrated in Video B.
strongly disagree
Please circle the appropriate answer

11. Which video do you believe shows the best game?
Video B

12. Please describe which features you believe make this game better than the other game.
The other seemed more repettive while the other seemed to whow strategy.

Saikoro
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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 05:47 Edited at: 4th Apr 2006 06:10
1.a. Do you play computer games?
Yes

b. If yes, do you play RTS (Real-Time Strategy) games?
Yes

2. Have you ever played Command & Conquer: Generals?
No

3. On average, Video A has more objects on screen than Video B.
Yes

4. On average, the objects in Video A appear to have more physical complexity than in Video B.
Agree

5. The explosion, smoke and vehicle trail effects in Video A are visually more appealing than in Video B.
Neutral

6. There are more explosion, smoke and vehicle trail effects in Video A than in Video B.
Strongly Agree

7. The shadows cast by the objects are more convincing / accurate in Video A than in Video B.
Agree

8. Ignoring background music, the sound effects quality in Video A is better than in Video B.
Strongly Agree

9. I would consider purchasing the game demonstrated in Video A.
(if price isn't considered) Agree

10. I would consider purchasing the game demonstrated in Video B.
(if price isn't considered) Agree

11. Which video do you believe shows the best game?
Video A

12. Please describe which features you believe make this game better than the other game.
The first impression I got from A was that it was much more fuller and with a wider variety of texture than B had. The visual explosions were more or less just as appealing as B, but the smoke brought up the special effects factor up that much more for A. The town setup was more appealing in A because it seemed as though there was more room for tactics. The way the tanks were able to set up on previously exploded tanks bugged me, so that would have been better if the exploded tanks would dissapear sooner. The sound effects in A were much more pleasing to listen to than in B, because B sounded like a bunch of bass drums going off. The shadows in A gave it a nice advantage as well. The vehicles in A were also smaller, which made the town seem bigger. Overall, A looks like, well, a commercial game whereas B has a few missing areas that, when addressed, will make the game that much better.

Good luck with that RTS, it seems to be developing beautifully

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 06:05 Edited at: 4th Apr 2006 12:48
I'll check this out when I get home. But for now ...

Quote: ""Neutral""
What makes a man go neutral? That always reminds me of Futurama

Look for my answers here in appx 6 hours.

[edit] And now for the most important answers of all

1.a. Yes

b. Yes

2. No

(For each statement just write Strongly Disagree, Disagree, Neutral, Agree, or Strongly Agree next to the question/statement number)

3. Strongly Agree

4. Agree

5. Disagree

6. Agree

7. Disagree

8. Agree

9. Strongly Agree

10. Agree

11. Video A

12. The video just shows more stuff going on at one time, making it look more fun. I love alot of stuff blowing up (probably because I'm more of a FPS player). The games may be more evenly matched with more similar videos.

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 07:58
1.a. Do you play computer games?
Yes

b. If yes, do you play RTS (Real-Time Strategy) games?
Yes

2. Have you ever played Command & Conquer: Generals?
Yes

3. On average, Video A has more objects on screen than Video B.
Agree

4. On average, the objects in Video A appear to have more physical complexity than in Video B.
Disagree

5. The explosion, smoke and vehicle trail effects in Video A are visually more appealing than in Video B.
Neutral

6. There are more explosion, smoke and vehicle trail effects in Video A than in Video B.
Disagree

7. The shadows cast by the objects are more convincing / accurate in Video A than in Video B.
Neutral

8. Ignoring background music, the sound effects quality in Video A is better than in Video B.
Neutral

9. I would consider purchasing the game demonstrated in Video A.
Neutral

10. I would consider purchasing the game demonstrated in Video B.
Neutral

Please circle the appropriate answer

11. Which video do you believe shows the best game?
Video A

12. Please describe which features you believe make this game better than the other game.
There needs to be more happening, C&C has always been a gung-ho unrealistic game, so to attract the same audience, exaggerated particle effects, more dense terrain features (like the riduculously massive amounts of palm trees in Video A), and anything else over the top you can think of. Also, the camera shake effect in Video A is cool, but a bit distracting, so if it's possible to add it into game B and tone it down slightly you could achieve the same dynamic while not being obtrusive to the player.
There are a lot of differences between your game and C&C that could really be considered just stylistic differences rather than inferiority one way or the other.


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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 12:13
Wow. Nice one for the responses guys. That's really cool to get so much feedback so fast, and it's nice to see a fair spread of opinion, but still with my predicted weighting. If anyone else is up for completing the questionnaire, please go for it, as the more figures I get the better my analysis of the results.

@Bolt
Yes mate. I'm working on it at the moment. It's in a WiP thread, but you've just seen a vid which shows most of it off already anyway.

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 12:32
1. a. Yes
b. Yes

2. No

Now, I'm going to cut the answers short. When I first downloaded the videos, I didn't know why I was exactly. I've never seen your game. I thought I was watching two commercial games.

Obviously, the first game makes more use of lighting, particles, and physics. That does not diminish the greatness of your own game. If you're looking for a similar effect, just add more sounds and particles.

Even without, it's great. It's impossible to deny. You're one guy against an army of paid drones. I look forward to the finished product. I haven't played C&C. I will play yours.

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 12:43
1.a. Do you play computer games?
Yes

b. If yes, do you play RTS (Real-Time Strategy) games?
Yes

2. Have you ever played Command & Conquer: Generals?
Yes


(For each statement just write Strongly Disagree, Disagree, Neutral, Agree, or Strongly Agree next to the question/statement number)

3. On average, Video A has more objects on screen than Video B.
Strongly Agree

4. On average, the objects in Video A appear to have more physical complexity than in Video B.
Neutral

5. The explosion, smoke and vehicle trail effects in Video A are visually more appealing than in Video B.
Stongly Agree

6. There are more explosion, smoke and vehicle trail effects in Video A than in Video B.
Strongly Agree

7. The shadows cast by the objects are more convincing / accurate in Video A than in Video B.
Strongly Agree

8. Ignoring background music, the sound effects quality in Video A is better than in Video B.
Strongly Agree

9. I would consider purchasing the game demonstrated in Video A.
I would if I didn't already have it...

10. I would consider purchasing the game demonstrated in Video B.
Possibly.

Please circle the appropriate answer

11. Which video do you believe shows the best game?
Video A

12. Please describe which features you believe make this game better than the other game.
Futuristic setting, varied amount of vechiles and troops, more powerful weaponry.

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 13:32
1.a. Do you play computer games?
Yes

b. If yes, do you play RTS (Real-Time Strategy) games?
Yes

2. Have you ever played Command & Conquer: Generals?
Yes


To answer the following questions you must watch Video A and Video B. You may watch them as many times as you like to assist you in answering these questions. Please tick the box that best describes your level of agreement with each statement:

(For each statement just write Strongly Disagree, Disagree, Neutral, Agree, or Strongly Agree next to the question/statement number)

3. On average, Video A has more objects on screen than Video B.
Agree

4. On average, the objects in Video A appear to have more physical complexity than in Video B.
agree

5. The explosion, smoke and vehicle trail effects in Video A are visually more appealing than in Video B.
neutral

6. There are more explosion, smoke and vehicle trail effects in Video A than in Video B.
agree

7. The shadows cast by the objects are more convincing / accurate in Video A than in Video B.
neutral

8. Ignoring background music, the sound effects quality in Video A is better than in Video B.
neutral/agree

9. I would consider purchasing the game demonstrated in Video A.
agree

10. I would consider purchasing the game demonstrated in Video B.
(if same price), disagree

Please circle the appropriate answer

11. Which video do you believe shows the best game?
(Video A )

12. Please describe which features you believe make this game better than the other game.

The main difference was, the action is alot more packed in video a, and more enemys attacking, video b doesnt have many enemys and is alot more slow paced, to make video b look on par with video a, the terrain texture needs to be less generic, perhaps more civilian buildings and some shrubs/misc items dotted around.

on engine technicality both look similar although the ones demonstrated on videoa seem to keep moving once theyhve aquired a target, in video b they seem to stop and just fire thus making them a sitting duck and making action less intence.

vehicles demonstrated in video a kick up dust as they move making them seem more alive/realistic which isnt apparent in videob and the helicopter should have dust to match underneath.

when vehicles are destroyed in video a they make a nice explosion effect which is in video b but video a explodes with debris which makes it seem more superior to video b.

to make video b seem more superior to video a, in addition to making the graphics on par with video a, you could have troops in place behind cover, such as sandbags and concrete blocks and perhaps duck when reloading and when a tank is pointing its turret at them.

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 14:57
Awesome guys. Thanks for the response and feedback so far. This is good stuff for my project. Still more responses would be awesome, so anyone left feel free to chip in!

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 19:07
Ok, I've got enough results now and am cracking on with the analysis, so no more feedback needed. Thanks very much for those who took the time to answer. Saves me a lot of heartache chasing round at uni for randoms to answer it.

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 21:18 Edited at: 4th Apr 2006 21:28
ignore me - i didnt read your last post


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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 23:16 Edited at: 4th Apr 2006 23:20
lol - sorry if you did the questionnare. Thanks for your time anyway chap. I've edited the first post to make sure nobody else wastes their time.

But let it be known that from now on, that if someone kindly and selflessly wastes a lot of their time for someone elses benefit, it will be known as "doing an IanG".

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