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HWT
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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 21:36 Edited at: 6th Apr 2006 01:54
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Hi there

Sorry to bother everyone with this. I know you're all busy and stuff but I was hoping to hear your opinions on which of the following games I should buy (it's okay to introduce your own best choices). Also tell me which of the ones from the list ONLY do you think I would regret most not buying (imagine that this is the last game I'm going to buy)?

Firstly, I'm getting this through my 15$ gift certificate from Amazon for their 2 month delivery delay. Secondly, I am looking for these qualities:

1) Long game play (and fun - not boring and repetitive).
2) Adventure or RPG (with good story and not just shooting everything).
3) Something at or below 9.99$
4) Graphics shouldn't be too old (not like Wolf3D)

Thirdly, I already have the following games - have a look so you can understand what I really like - the rank is out of 10:
1. Outcast 9/10
2. Gabriel Knight 3 9.75/10
3. Deus Ex 11/10
4. Halflife 8.5/10
5. NFS 3 (haven't played)
6. Blair Witch 1 (haven't played - too scary still)
7. Jane's F-15 9.5/10
8. Discworld Noir 10/10
9. Stupid Invaders 10/10
10. Die Hard Nakatomi Plaza 6/10
11. No one lives forever 1 10/10
12 Swat3 9/10
13 Anachronox (not played yet)
14 Hitman: Contracts (not played yet)
... and of course...
15. Darkbasic Classic 10/10

Here are a few selections I've seen so far:
1) The Longest Journey
2) Escape from Monkey Island or Curse of Monkey Island
3) Mafia
4) Max Payne
5) Metal Gear Solid 2
6) Prince of Persia
7) Grand Theft Auto value pack (GTA1 and GTA2)
8) Area 51

Here are so games I CAN NOT or DO NOT WANT TO buy:
1) Grim Fandango (not available)
2) NOFL2 (not available)
3) Deus Ex 2 (too high specs)
4) Unreal Tournament (too repetitive - shooting everything)
5) Theif (not available)
6) Worms (not available)
7) Tony Hawk's Pro Skater (not available)


Thanks

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I highly reccommend Wolfenstein 3D. Sure it's not the newest of games, but definately my favorite.

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Posted: 4th Apr 2006 22:09 Edited at: 4th Apr 2006 22:11
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Thanks for the replies.

Oopps!!! Forgot to mention what I'm looking for:
1. Long game play (10-20 hours)
2. Nice adventure feel with good story and hopefully good humour.
3. Moderate graphics (i.e. not really old ones)
4. Overall good feel for game (i.e. it doesn't leave you
disappointed).
5. Can be RPG, Adventure/Action but not full FPS like Halflife - No one lives forever is great example of Adventure/Action/RPG.

Here is the updated list of game options (note that I'm just browsing through amazon picking up titles to buy with my 15$ gift certificate):
1) The Longest Journey
2) Escape from Monkey Island
3) Mafia
4) Max Payne
5) Metal Gear Solid
messenger
gta triology
prince of persia sands of time / persia 3D
area 51

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.. Guitar hero, haha.

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I forgot to say PLEEAAASSEE HELP MEE!!! I going nuts between Longest Journey and Metal Gear Solid 2!!!

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You will enjoy POP Sands of Time, definitely out of all of those games listed above. It has a great story element, it's linear like a good adventure game should be, and it has its fair share of action, romance and daredevilism.


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i think POP:The warrior within is better(i can but it in store here for 7 bucks)

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Let me help you out...

Kingdom Hearts 2! lol

or Black - that was a good game.
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Terry Pratchett's Discworld ftw.

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Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
Age of Empires (the original)
Halo (the original)

and wolf et is free too...


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Escape from Monkey Island
Also checkout grim fandango
(Eoin's an old school adventure fan)

as for your other choices
4) Max Payne = 4h game
5) Metal Gear Solid = ok, but not realy adapted to pcs
the others, i don't know

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iirc the next Tomb Raider game's released on Friday. If I was you I'd wait and get some money off that.

Out of the games you listed I'd go for Metal Gear Solid because, in my opinion, it has quite a lot of re-play value. But it's worth noting that's the only game in your list I've played.

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Oh buy Decote Racer it`s the best game i ever played !


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Thanks for all the replies.

I've got most of the games you've thus far mentioned (that's why I specified the list).

What'd all think about Metal Gear Solid 2 vs. The Longest Journey? And for those who've played either - how long (on average) did it take to complete each? Thanks

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That's one of the things I like about MGS2. I can start it up in very easy mode if I want to bash through it in less than a day (believe me, you WON'T get your money's worth if you only play easy mode, You miss a third of the game if you go for very easy!) while sitting back to enjoy the fmv clips or I can go for european extreme if I want to get my money's worth.

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If you're going to get Metal Gear Solid(1), I recommend getting Twin Snakes for Gamecube, when I got it a while ago it was $20, so it should be pretty cheap now. Twin Snakes redid the cutscenes (much cooler, even if it is a little over the top), and it updated to use the controls from MGS 2.

Sands of Time also rocks. Those are probably the two best on that list by my standards. Although I haven't played Monkey Island or Longest Journey.


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max payne was actually pretty good. the chopper at the end was fun.

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and you dont have any other choice? whell, i think the best game to buy (is not in your list though)

are:
Oblivion
Tomb Rider
Prince of Parsia

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Quote: "Prince of Parsia"

ok...
I tryed that but it's not really a game i would buy

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Put your money back in your pocket and go here:
http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_tmnations_downloads.html

Trackmania Nations rocks, I got the new Toca race driver game, and that sucks in comparison. Free, no lag hassle, awesome track editor, it's just such a cool game idea and excellently done.


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Wow van nice find if have tmsunrise here and that's awesome i'll download that tmnations later

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Wow looks like a good download, probably the best I have ever seen. If it is as good as it looks.

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It's the only PC racing game I've gotten into.

My brother likes it too, we often play on the UK's rated servers, as Van-B and Minty, he's rated about 220 in the UK, whereas I'm rated 600-odd in Russia (don't ask!). I love the way it works, because your actually against several online opponents, but pings don't bother this game nearly as much. Like it prioritises you in the game engine, so you get a smooth game regardless, and the other players just have to tell your PC where they are - lag does'nt matter, it's all done with lap time trials. Most of the time it's a case of getting through a track just once to get a score, like a fast racing game with puzzle solving stunt elements.

Personally I like making my own tracks, the editor makes it as easy as clicking Scalectrix together, only with jumps and onbstacles and 3D. Even if your on dial-up, it's worth the download .


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Just played a few races in TheGameCommunity and it was fun! First time I've played anything online. I realised later that I have Trackmania already, but never played it much, and forgot about it. My version has trucks n stuff. Anyway this game is fun online.

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I would say go for Oblivion!

Or World of Warcraft if you can affort it

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I borrowed Trackmania Sunrise from work, and damn is it fun! It reminds me of Stunts--- which is a huge compliment! The music, graphics, and joystick controls are phenomenal--- just wish I owned it hehe.


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Metal gear solid 1 has a quality pc game but if you have a ps2 buy a reconditiond mgs3 it is the bomb.

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DO NOT DOWNLOAD TRACKMANIA NATIONS!

I have been reading from several sources that it is bundled with StarForce malware, which can cause major instability with Windows, including crashes, CD drive shutdown, and others (it's actually a set of drivers that are installed secretly).

Use at your own risk!

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/starforce/do-not-download-this-game-151652.php
http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=1010541
http://www.pcgameworld.com/downloads/file.php/id/6622/


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Oh..Just when I was enjoying myself. Ok so I have here Trackmania, and the Power Up expansion pack. Is it safe to use that?

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I have read that the retail versions are fine--- just the free Trackmania Nations has the malware. I guess they figured they needed to make their money either way. Thing is I would rather pay for the software than have it for free with malware.

As of today I have lost almost all of my respect for the developer. Sad, really.


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I have just installed the retail version, it said..

"Do You Wish To Check For Updates?"

I put yes.

Then you get a 256MB download, which could contain the same thing.

I don't know whether to run the download.exe or not.

But I do have a Starforce removal tool, just in case.

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Yeah, you should try it then let us know if your computer gets borked Think of it as a heroic mission for the betterment of humanity!


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I decided to read their forums. Very interesting.

StarForce is part of NADEO disc protection, so all of their software uses it. It must be on my original copy as well. There are posts on the forums of Sata Drives breaking. Two broke in one day for some unfortunate person. Also CD roms were breaking, and DVD's. But most people are quite content with the disc protection.

NADEO believe that the disc protection is safe. They put up a prize of $5000 to anyone who can show that it broke their hardware, but no other software is allowed on your computer apart from Windows. Nobody claimed the prize, and NADEO claimed victory, and stopped the competition. It was a short run thing, and everyone was suspicious of the time that it ran... "Why not run forever!"

Anyhow, I have decided to play the game for awhile, because I do not play games all that often. I will risk it.

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I refuse to play Trackmania, splinter cell, and several other games because they use starforce "protection". It totally ravages computers looking for anything that could be used for image emulation and won't let certain programs run after you've installed a game that uses it. Its sick that its legal, and the workaround for it is illegal (I won't tell you exactly what its name is since its illegal, plus name is a pretty bad too ). Then again, even the work around proggie dosen't work all the time...

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Ouch, the original Trackmania games have it too? I just installed that a week ago


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Heres the list:

* 7 Sins
* American Conquest: Divided Nation
* Anstoss 4
* Bandits: Phoenix Rising
* Bet on Soldier
* Beyond Divinity
* Black Mirror
* Blitzkrieg 2
* Blitzkrieg: Rolling Thunder
* Breed
* Brian Lara International Cricket 2005
* Broken Sword 3: The Sleeping Dragon
* Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood
* Castle Strike
* Chaos League
* Chaos League: Sudden Death
* Codename: Outbreak
* Codename: Panzers - Phase One
* Codename: Panzers - Phase Two
* Cold War
* Colin McRae Rally 2005
* Cossacks II: Napoleonic Wars
* Crazy Frog Racer
* Cross Racing Championship 2005
* Curse: The Eye of Isis
* Cycling Manager 3
* Cycling Manager 4
* D-Day
* Dead to Rights
* Demonic Speedway
* Desert Rats vs Afrika Korps
* Domination
* Emergency Fire Response
* Enigma: Rising Tide
* Etherlords II
* Fire Chief
* Fire Department
* Freedom Force vs The Third Reich
* Gangland
* Garfield
* Gooka: The Mystery of Janatris
* GT Legends
* GTR: FIA GT Racing Game
* Hammer & Sickle
* Heroes of Might and Magic V
* Horse Race Manager
* I-Ninja
* Icewind Dale: Heart of Winter
* Keepsake
* Kicker Manager 2004
* Kill Switch
* King Kong
* Knights of the Temple 2
* Korea: Forgotten Conflict
* L.A. Rush
* LMA Professional Manager 2005
* Lock On: Flaming Cliffs
* Medieval Lords
* Namco Museum 50th Anniversary
* Neuro Hunter
* Nibiru
* Obscure
* Pac Man World 2
* Pac Man World 3
* Pariah
* Pax Romana
* Perimeter
* Perimeter: Emperor’s Testament
* Pferdehof - Pferd und Pony
* Pop Star Academy
* Postal 2: Apocalypse Weekend
* Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones
* Pro Rugby Manager
* Psi-Ops
* Pure Pinball
* Rally Championship Xtreme
* Restaurant Empire
* Restricted Area
* Revolution
* Runaway: A Road Adventure
* Scrapland
* Second Sight
* Silent Hunter 3
* Silent Storm
* Silkolene Honda Motocross GP
* Singles 2: Triple Trouble
* Singles: Flirt Up Your Life
* Sniper Elite
* Soldiers Heroes of World War 2
* Sommerspiele 2004
* Space Rangers 2
* SpellForce 2
* Splinter Cell 3: Chaos Theory (rumored the other Splinter Cell games have it hidden)
* Star Wolves
* Steel Saviour
* Still Life
* Street Racing Syndicate
* Sudeki
* SuperPower 2
* Syberia II
* The Fall: Last Days of Gaia
* The Moment of Silence
* The Suffering: Ties That Bind
* The Westerner
* TOCA Race Driver 2 : The Ultimate Racing Simulator
* TOCA Race Driver 3
* Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six : Lockdown
* TrackMania
* TrackMania Nations
* TrackMania Sunrise
* Traitors Gate 2: Cypher
* Ubersoldier
* UFO: Aftershock
* Universal Combat: A World Apart
* V8 Supercars 2
* V8 Supercars 3
* Virtual Skipper 3
* Virtual Skipper 4
* Vivisector
* Wildlife Park
* Wintersport Pro 2006
* World Racing 2
* World War II: Frontline Command
* Worms 4: Mayhem
* X3: Reunion
* XIII
* Xpand Rally
* Xuan-Yuan Sword 4

And early editions of:

* Area 51
* X2: The Threat

Have it, but they listened to the community and got rid of it in later versions.

Edit: Sh*t... I just installed ubersoldier yesterday, time to get rid of it. Isn't that good anyway.

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Apparently it's difficult to uninstall


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Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion

Buy it.

Buy it now.


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Theres a StarForce removal tool here for download... I don't know about the workings of the site, as StarForce seems to be a bit flakey, which makes me think that the site is the same. But here it is anyway.

http://www.onlinesecurity-on.com/protect.phtml?c=55

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It's not difficult to uninstall Starforce using the tools available.

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