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Geek Culture / Awesome Idea: Open-Novel

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Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 01:47 Edited at: 14th Apr 2006 01:50
Today i was watching a documentary about how the modern day story of king arthur came around, being a mix of many peoples different accounts.

for example, the welsh monks came up with one idea about the knights and the round table, and then around france and scotland had their own myths, and over time the stories merged to become one big tale.

So i thought, "why can't something like this be done today?".

i want to set up an internet-based open-novel. a base story line is set up, and then people from all over the world submit their entries, for example, the story line could be about a king, born, battled, did a few things like dealing with a plague and a drought etc, and then died.

people would then write in, with a story about how the king was born, another person might write a few accounts of times such as the guy killing a bear with his bear hands, someone else might like to write about the lands he conquered, and so forth.

then it goes into a sub-level, where people might go into more detail, for example, not just how the king was born, but how the parents met, the background of the mother being some witch or something, and accoutns of how the battles were faught while the king was conquering the lands, and then a whole new sublevel again, going into account of individual soldiers who faught bravely in the battle, and did daring acts of heroism, while not nessecerily having anything to do with the story line, but would still make an interesting chapter.

during this whole process, lasting possibly a couple of years, the entries are moderated, and controlled to make sure people arent going out of line, or that not everyone is covering the same aspect of the story, leaving other aspects blank.

at the end of the project, the story will be compiled and re-drafted by one person (maybe me) to make sure everyone's work fits nicely together, and mathces the same style. the book is then published, maybe for free, maybe in bookshelves and the money going to some reading-related charity, or maybe not compiled at all so people can read the extracts online and build up their own story from what they prefer, thus having access to alternative endings and the like.

i'm basically writing this asking for peoples oppinions, im not an optemist or a realist, i want other people to assure me its a good idea before i go ahead with it and waste my time. I also need ideas on how the project could be moderated and judged.

what do you guys think?

edit: forgot to mention, im also looking for ideas about how the project could be spread, atm, im hoping word of mouth and minor press-releases will do the trick, since it's worksed for other internet projects such as million-dollar homepage. i was also thinking of maybe encouraging a few celebrity, or at least, well-known writers to particpate.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 01:53
Sounds cool!

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The resurrected anarchist
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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 01:53
hmm, sounds interesting, does it have to be about old kings though?
id post a bit if it started, gd luk
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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 02:12
http://ublot.com Try started one of those on that site, its an excellant site that does this sort of thing, I joined as one of the very early members and has progressed a lot in these couple of months, I started my own called "Shades of a dithering soul" and another one I forgot the title of. The main intention for the people on there really is to write a novel, my Shades of a dithering soul got quite a few entries as it is unique in the fact its written as a poem and not a story

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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 03:52 Edited at: 14th Apr 2006 03:54
Sounds great. Personally, I'd be more than happy to chip in.

I think moderation wouldn't be too much of a handful as long as those doing the moderating remembered that they're not just looking for work that they enjoy reading (because everyone has different tastes) but something that has correct grammar/spelling (or can be corrected without too much work) and fits in with the story.

One of the most important points (IMO) is credit. Because someone could spend weeks, even months, researching and writing a good piece. Perhaps everytime a piece written by someone else begins, put a number in the margin next to the first line. Then a list at the back matching numbers to names of authors (or whatever the authors want to be known as).

For Example:

1. The king wore a shiny crown he won by killing a dragon made of gold and cutting of its left elbow. Some animal rights activists got in a hissy fit over this so the king had them all lasered to death.
2. The queen got drunk on her 80th birthday and decided to make irrational love to the moat monster.
3. They all lived happily ever after, except the prince who discovered a mysterious item calleed darkbasic and locked himself in his room, never to return.
4. Look at me. I'm only writing this so I could get in the book. I am teh 1337.

And then at the back.

1.Joe Bloggs
2.Anonymous
3.www.stevebrown.com
4.Eel Rebmab

Obviously most people will submit more than a few lines, so the numbers would be much less intrusive in the final piece.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 14:34
Whenever I see the King Arthur story turned into a TV show or movie I always laugh at how they ALWAYS mess up the round table. The whole point of it was that all of Arthur's knights could sit the same distance away from each him (because they'd argued about it) - mean Arthur would have to sit in the middle (which you never see in a TV show/movie).

But, enought of that. It's a nice idea if you can get enough dedicated people and some good editors - but I have a feeling it'd be quite hard to pull off.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 14:49
I thought the idea was that they were all equal and had equal say. Therefore there was no head of the table?

Anyways, this idea sounds cool in practice, but I can't see it working. You're attempting to simulate hundreds of years of folk law told be great village/town story tellers, evolved through chinese whispers, and passed down through generations, using a load of kids on an internet programming forum.

Nah, good luck. Might be cool. But I have a feeling it's not gonna provide any decent results.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 15:39
erm... these sorts of things have been tried before, by professional authors... it doesn't work, all that happens is that people kill off each other's characters, either literally, or metaphorically.

also, King Arther's story is the product of collation by someone, so there's gonna be one person who has to make the final calls on the story, and i can see now someone getting upset, because their bit where the king fought and destroyed goku, and freed the people of zeotropia got cut out of the story.

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and killing a bear with your bear hands? who's got bear hands? where did you get the bear's hands from? did you borrow them, or did you have to kill the first bear with your bare hands?

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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 15:57
This sounds like it's gonna be a bore to read.


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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 16:05
ive seen somthing like this before, bit differant, it was just a forum, and every post had to follow the story on from the last, i think that would work better here.
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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 16:37
Quote: "4.Eel Rebmab"

Don't they serve that as a sushi dish? Usually served with Davey Pilchards?

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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 18:01
ok, my whole king arthur thing was an example please stop quoting me on it >.< the story could be about anything, genre decided if and when the project actually starts. (and the point ofthe round table was to show unity between the knights and arthur, not have arthur in the middle)

soapy fish: good idea

of course the story could end up being a complete disaster, a "bore to read" with characters getting cut out etc, but thats why moderators should be involved to limit anything which decreases the disirability of the story

and btw bear hands as in empty hands... but as i said, that was an example anyway.

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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 18:05
I think it's a good idea, and would work with proper moderation


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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 20:36
How about using CVS?

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Posted: 14th Apr 2006 22:15
go0rf: have a look at "bear" and "bare" in a dictionary

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Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 15th Apr 2006 02:20
oh whatever, you're just being pety now, plz dont rate me on my dyslexia >.<

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Posted: 15th Apr 2006 02:40
This is a good idea. You could end up with the best story ever written. You need to put the information together very carefully.

You need a good concept to start with apart from Kings.

Teh Go0rfmeister
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Posted: 16th Apr 2006 01:33
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH


KINGS was an EXAMPLE

thankyou

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Posted: 16th Apr 2006 03:40
Deffinately not kings.

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