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FPSC Classic Scripts / Help! Doors on the floor

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Cornik
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Posted: 18th Apr 2006 14:03
Is there anyway you can put doors on the floor or in the ceiling? I tried changing the "roty" to 90, but it doesn´t work. Please help!

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Posted: 19th Apr 2006 19:54
Come on! At least tell if it is possible or not

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Posted: 20th Apr 2006 00:39
no... unless you make it in the segment editor, of course!

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Posted: 20th Apr 2006 06:04
or just editing the... fps?

you also need to rotate the bust(wrong term)... that is the part that makes the hole.

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Posted: 20th Apr 2006 18:11
Quote: "no... unless you make it in the segment editor, of course!"


I tried something, but it doesn´t work Some hints would be very helpful (on how-to do it)

Quote: "or just editing the... fps?"


How?

Quote: "you also need to rotate the bust(wrong term)..."


I´m sorry, but I don´t know what you´re talking about...

Please help! I´m desperate!

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Posted: 20th Apr 2006 18:31 Edited at: 20th Apr 2006 18:33
1. Using the floor texture of the existing floor, create a new floor segment with a hole in it the size you want the door.

2. The easiest way is to use an existing door from entities since it already has the open/close animation, in which case you would make the hole no bigger than the door you want to use.

3. Replace the section of floor where you want the trap door with your new section.

4. Position a door (entity) over the hole so it looks right.

5. If your next question is "How do I create a segment with a hole in it?", then you should probably ask someone to do it for you.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 01:19
Quote: "If your next question is "How do I create a segment with a hole in it?", then you should probably ask someone to do it for you.
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You´re right. But, as far as I know, you can´t rotate the door in order to put it on the floor...

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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 02:43


This is how you make holes, just have a model the shape of the doorway, but a lot deeper.

Aperantly FPSC doesn't like rotating about the x or z axis.

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Posted: 21st Apr 2006 17:34
Use the number 1 key and the letter r to rotate entities.

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2006 03:31
yes... entitys.

We want to rotate SEGMENTS, or actually models IN segments.

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Posted: 22nd Apr 2006 16:15 Edited at: 22nd Apr 2006 16:42
OK, listen (read) carefully.

Place the door "entity" (notice, not door segment, but entity) over the hole in the floor. Then position it using the 1 and r keys.

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Posted: 23rd Apr 2006 13:06
Thank´s! I´ll try this, because my game won´t work If I don´t have this "special doors" I need

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Posted: 23rd Apr 2006 21:09
I have a problem. The code to make holes on the door doesn´t work, or maybe I´m doing something wrong. This is my door segment with your code



What´s the problem?

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Posted: 24th Apr 2006 18:21 Edited at: 24th Apr 2006 18:36
All the floors in FPSC are set to be immune to CSG, meaning that they are immune to punching holes such as doorways. This is why there isn't a gaping hole in the floor wherever there's a doorway.

To make floors behave like walls, you'll have to open the room's FPS file and change the floor mesh property "csgimmune" to a value of "0".

Or else make your own floor segments in the segment editor to be non-csg immune.

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Posted: 25th Apr 2006 00:19
Quote: "1. Using the floor texture of the existing floor, create a new floor segment with a hole in it the size you want the door."


I dont know what graphics program you use. I use PhotoShop.

Create a new transparant image 512x512. Copy the texture of the floor you will be using to the new image. Delete the portion where the hole will be. Save it as a .jpg. Then use a program like Signs or MagicFPS to create a floor segment with it.

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Posted: 28th Apr 2006 00:51
Ok, here´s what I have
Changing the csginmune to "0" doesn´t work. For some reason the texture turns grey and you can´t fall through the hole.
About the transparent texture segment with photoshop. Alright, it looks good, there´s the hole, you can see through it butthe segment is still solid. Once again you can´t fall trough the hole...
Any suggestions?

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Posted: 28th Apr 2006 03:13 Edited at: 28th Apr 2006 03:14
Hmm only thing that I can think is to make your own floor segment in the segment editor and set csgimmune property from within the segment editor.

Now that I think about it, if I remember correctly from the notes that came with the segment editor, there is a specific order that must be followed when creating csg meshes (contrary to what the video tutorial demonstrates).

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Posted: 28th Apr 2006 23:35
@Cornik

Yea, sorry about that. I just tried it and as you already know, it didn't work. I was thinking that I had done it that way, but maybe I just left the floor segment out before. I'll try to figure it out.

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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 15:17
Quote: "Hmm only thing that I can think is to make your own floor segment in the segment editor and set csgimmune property from within the segment editor."


Once again, it didn´t work

Quote: "I'll try to figure it out."


Thanks for the effort! This is very important for me, and I feel we´re closer than ever before

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Posted: 30th Apr 2006 19:03 Edited at: 30th Apr 2006 19:04
Ok, this works. I'm sure it's not the only way, but it's one way.

I attached a link to the level, "Trap Door" so you can see it in action and have all the files.

http://www.xplosys.com/fpsc/TrapDoor.zip

The floor section with the hole is an arch made with "MagicFPS".
I just placed a door entity above and positioned it. The rest you can see.

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Posted: 1st May 2006 20:55
Awesome! But I dont understand how to do it. What do I have to move [bwhere[/b]? Then How do I use it in fps creator? Thanks!

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Posted: 1st May 2006 22:00
The hole in the floor is an entity (an arch) made with MagicFPS, using the texture of the existing floor. In the editor, remove a floor section and replace it with the arch. Then cover it with a door entity.

You will want to make your own to match your existing floor.

I don't know how else to explain it.

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Posted: 1st May 2006 23:12
And where´s the arch? The only thing I can find in the entititybank folder is the floorArch.bin, floorArch.dbo and wood1tex.dds What am I supossed to do with them?
Anyway, I forgot to tell you that I need a square hole, not an arch hole. The only door I will use in my game is the door_d, which is square. Sorry about that!

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Posted: 1st May 2006 23:38
Quote: "Anyway, I forgot to tell you that I need a square hole, not an arch hole."


I'm not making your game or the segments/entities you need. I'm only trying to answer your question.

Quote: "Is there anyway you can put doors on the floor or in the ceiling? I tried changing the "roty" to 90, but it doesn´t work. Please help!"


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Posted: 2nd May 2006 08:07 Edited at: 2nd May 2006 08:15
@xplosys,

Greetings. I have both MagicFPS and E.C.S. Professional. It was a snap! Good problem solving. Thanks very much for the contribution to the community!

@Cornik,

I suggest making a meager investment in E.C.S. Professional, if you would like an effortless way to create the custom floor and trap door combination you seek.

It'd be easy to import a custom floor (complete with that square hole) into E.C.S. Professional and size & align it real time into position. A custom .fpe will be generated for the floorpiece, including any texture you choose.

Open up your new floorpiece in FPSC, turn the door 90 degrees, place it into position, and you're all set!

I hope this helps you in your endeavors. Anything else that you need to learn regarding this procedure is available in the FPSC manual, or on these boards. You must learn to fend for yourself.

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Seth Black

P.S. The arch was created with MagicFPS. You would have to recreate the .x and .fpe files to be able to use it. It must be created as an ENTITY, not SEGMENT for it to rotate properly.

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Posted: 5th May 2006 07:10
Reminder to Self...
Try to combind arch and door into segment...

just basically as the door segmenet has an entity, you just need to propperly possition the arch as another entity and remove all segment data...

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Posted: 7th May 2006 01:16
Lol I have to be very very stupid, because I can´t understand anything you say I think that I´d need one of those "How to make a door on the floor step-by-step for dummies", or I won´t be able to use that great files from Xplosys and suggestions from Seth Black and Onepost. Heeeelp!

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