Sorry your browser is not supported!

You are using an outdated browser that does not support modern web technologies, in order to use this site please update to a new browser.

Browsers supported include Chrome, FireFox, Safari, Opera, Internet Explorer 10+ or Microsoft Edge.

DarkBASIC Discussion / what would you like in an ide?

Author
Message
Lukas W
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 5th Sep 2003
Location: Sweden
Posted: 27th Apr 2006 11:38
Link
hey,
i am trying to write an IDE for darkbasic so that i can learn delphi once again.

check out teh ide thread

so far this is what i have implemented in the IDE:
* standard features (save, load, compile etc.)
* integrated calculator
* integrated color map
* Code Library

what i have not yet implemented/not yet working but will add/fix:
* Label/Functions List
* Help Files (integrated in ide and external)
* make .exe and make .exe with media
* GLOBAL command
* MERGE DBA FILE command

so give me a list of features you would like to see in an IDE.

thanks.

my forum - still in development
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Uncle Sam
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 23rd Jul 2005
Location: West Coast, USA
Posted: 4th May 2006 22:09 Edited at: 4th May 2006 22:10
Link
Another IDE...*sighs*

I'm sorry, but I just get a bad (noobish) impression of you because of your grammar (capitalization, and "teh"...hate that ...least you could of done was edit your post), and because I don't like your avatar (no offense) .

To put it plainly, I don't want to change my current IDE, and even if I did, I'm using Pro.

Good luck.

Uncle Sam
Nvidia Geforce 7600 GS 256MB PCIEx, 2.66 GHZ Pentium 4 proccessor, 768MB RAM
Need particles? Click here!
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Lukas W
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 5th Sep 2003
Location: Sweden
Posted: 4th May 2006 22:50 Edited at: 4th May 2006 22:52
Link
lolar, well if you think i write funny thats sometihng you got to live with! and what do you mean capitalization?

also, i started this ide 2 months ago or something, and i have noticed that ever since i started, i've seen more and more people starting theirs, or continueing (spellning?) theirs. i didn't really made an announcement until that post that i gave a link to. which if you check the dates, was posted earlier than many of the other IDEs around these days. (i think)

you getting a noobish impression of me is quite amusing. it's like i would call you a noob because of your nick name and your avatar.

anyway, i originally started this IDE so that i could work on zombie hunter much easier with a project manager and multiple source files.
but after some time i wanted to see what features other people would like in an IDE.

then if it became good enough i would perhaps release it to the community.

my forum - now partly finished
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Nicholas Thompson
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 6th Sep 2004
Location: Bognor Regis, UK
Posted: 5th May 2006 01:35
Link
You know what I'd like, a small, quick, stable editor with good code highlighting and maybe bookmark points in the code.

I dont want an editor with a calculator in it - I have a perfectly good calculator as a link in my QuickBar. I dont use colours enough to warrant a colour map and when I do use them - I have a perfectly good one in Firefox (ColorZilla) which is 99% chance open already (FF that is)

SO many people make IDE's that are OTT and they get told this too.

The default IDE is fantastic - its small and does the job. Its not too intrusive and its pretty well designed. The ONLY problem is it has a few "features" like overwriting included files if you dont use them in the way the IDE likes you to.

Just make a small and effective IDE first and THEN think about fancy crappy features. Possibly even a Codebase is too much... Althought it is one of the features that would be nice.


http://forum.antiblog.com, http://thingy-ma-jig.co.uk/new/
Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
Pincho Paxton
22
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 8th Dec 2002
Location:
Posted: 5th May 2006 01:54
Link
Search/replace/search next/replace colour (This would change the colour of the typed command.)

Auto Indent

Colour Text any colour in selected blocks so that you can find each subroutine easier.

F1 on command help.

F2 on command Example

Multiple pages.

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
RUCCUS
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 11th Dec 2004
Location: Canada
Posted: 5th May 2006 02:07
Link
Lol, Uncle Sam thinks Lukas is a "noob"

Back to top
Profile PM Email Website
hyrichter
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 15th Feb 2004
Location: Arizona
Posted: 5th May 2006 02:14
Link
You guys do realize that this is an IDE for DBC right? I don't know if he's planning any DBP support, but if he isn't I'll soon be coming to your rescue with my DBP IDE.

I recommend that you get all the basic functionality and necessary features rock solid as has been mentioned, release it to the community, and then see what features people are begging for.

BTW Uncle Sam, I wouldn't be surprised if English isn't Lukas's native language. Go easy on him, OK? At least he has something to show.


Do not click the red button
Back to top
Profile PM Email
DB newbie
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 13th Nov 2005
Location: um..... i dont remember.
Posted: 5th May 2006 02:53
Link
and hes not a noob

visit my site (unfinished)
www.freewebs.com/dbnewbie
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Uncle Sam
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 23rd Jul 2005
Location: West Coast, USA
Posted: 5th May 2006 02:58 Edited at: 5th May 2006 02:59
Link
Quote: "Lol, Uncle Sam thinks Lukas is a "noob" "


No no no, I know he's not a noob, I've seen his work before. I'm just saying it wouldn't hurt to improve grammer.

Quote: "you getting a noobish impression of me is quite amusing. it's like i would call you a noob because of your nick name and your avatar."


It's not really the avatar or nick name, it's the grammar.

Quote: "BTW Uncle Sam, I wouldn't be surprised if English isn't Lukas's native language. Go easy on him, OK? At least he has something to show. "


Click the link in my sig.

Capitalization is making the first letter of a sentence in upper-case. Sorry if I was harsh when I wrote that...I didn't mean to be. I was at my college when I wrote that, and I guess I was kind of tired. I should have looked at your location. I just assumed you were American or English. Sorry. I know your not a noob when it comes to programming.

EDIT:

Quote: "and hes not a noob"


I agree, I just said I got an impression. No offense Lukas.

Uncle Sam
Nvidia Geforce 7600 GS 256MB PCIEx, 2.66 GHZ Pentium 4 proccessor, 768MB RAM
Need particles? Click here!
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Lukas W
21
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 5th Sep 2003
Location: Sweden
Posted: 5th May 2006 09:04
Link
Awww, Ok then I forgive you.

As Hyrichter said, this is an IDE for DBC.
What i am trying to accomplish is something like DarkEDIT, but with an "Merge DBA File" command, that basically does what the command says.

That way, it will work like a .dbpro file, but the files are included in the code instead of an external project file.

Quote: " Search/replace/search next/replace colour (This would change the colour of the typed command.)"

These are all great and very useful functions that i have forgotten about. I assume a "goto line" function would be needed aswell. I will add them soon. I'm not sure if the Highlighter im using support colors on words set manually. I'll have a look at this, and perhaps talk to hyrichter a bit.

Quote: " Auto Indent"

Allready added.

Quote: " Colour Text any colour in selected blocks so that you can find each subroutine easier."

Again, I'll have to see what the highlighter is capable of.

Quote: " F1 on command help."

The Keyword files in DBC does not come with a description or help file link in the list. So if i'm going to add this, I would need to write like 1100 lines.

Quote: " F2 on command Example"

See above

Quote: " Multiple pages."

Currently haven't figured out how to accomplish this, but it will definetly be an option.

Thanks for the tips.
And did anyone notice that I wrote this post with "Capitalization"?

my forum - now partly finished
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Uncle Sam
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 23rd Jul 2005
Location: West Coast, USA
Posted: 6th May 2006 21:14
Link
Bravo!

Uncle Sam
Nvidia Geforce 7600 GS 256MB PCIEx, 2.66 GHZ Pentium 4 proccessor, 768MB RAM
Need particles? Click here!
Back to top
Profile PM Email
NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
20
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 10th Apr 2005
Location: The Fifth Plane of Oblivion
Posted: 6th May 2006 23:51
Link
T3h CodeZ!


At least farting ferrets are better than stinky stoats.
Back to top
Profile PM Website
Bluestar4
19
Years of Service
User Offline
Joined: 19th Dec 2005
Location: USA
Posted: 14th May 2006 07:35 Edited at: 14th May 2006 07:40
Link
I have a major suggestion on the functionality issues -
I am currently using dark edit btw, but regardless of which editor I use there are a couple major things missing for dbc ->
1. step through & trace debuging with variable access so that the program actually has a window that shows you what values the variables contain
all the great ide's have this feature, and it would be awsome for you to be able to make one for dbc that does
as for making the exe , that would be easy as executing and passing the paramater and the file name to dark basic exe.
edited -> added pararmeters to pass
parameters are as follows :
to compile - c
to execute - x
to make exe -b
to make final exe - f

Bluestar4~
http://www.geocities.com/bluestar4games
Back to top
Profile PM Email
Back to top

Login to post a reply

Server time is: 2025-05-25 02:04:25
Your offset time is: 2025-05-25 02:04:25