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dark coder
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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 18:15
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Well i was reading on the planetbattlefield forums, and someone brought up a very interesting topic, stating that they think by playing hl2 it made them feel ill/nauseous and they believed it was down to the games fov, and i agree as after a while of playing hl2 i start to feel slightly sick but this is the only game that ive played that i get this, anyone else have similar experiences?

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Hawkeye
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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 18:35 Edited at: 29th Apr 2006 18:35
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That's actually quite an interesting idea I wonder...


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The Nerd
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Hmmm... I've played HL2 many hours in a row(Yes I have completed it) And I never got sick or ill in any way.

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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 18:42 Edited at: 29th Apr 2006 18:44
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I played a game on the PS1. It came on the Demo disk, made with the PS1 developers kit Net Yaroze. It was some sort of zombie game in a maze. It made 3 of us sick within a few minutes of each other. Something to do with the movement.

Edit: Also easy to get a headache from some games. Ice Hockey on the megadrive had such a bright blue screen it gave me a headache. Also a football manager game gave me a headache because of all of the screen fades one after another.

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i think it's ture, changing fov to something your eyes are not suppost to use can make you ill. stick to the recommended levels.

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Saikoro
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The only game to make me remotely nauseous was Duke Nukem 3D in Hi-Def (its a patch for it). The FOV was so spinny and tweaked out... idk.

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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 18:50 Edited at: 29th Apr 2006 18:52
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If you play a bit of old skool wolfenstein or duke nukem or rise of the triads etc etc. I guarentee the old raycasting engine crap will have your eyeballs bobbling about all over the place. I have no idea how we used to play those engines.

Edit: What Saikoro said!

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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 18:59
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Once when I played Desperados ages ago it made me ill.

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Tinkergirl
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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 19:21
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Some people have trouble with first person games - it gives them motion sickness. Camera 'bob' can make it much much worse (when the camera bobs up and down to simulate walking). Removing that can help sufferers.

Other than that, flashing screens can cause fits (just like in films or TV), screens that are too dark can cause squinting (like trying to read a book in the dark), and playing too long can cause dehydration and/or headaches (like sleeping for too long).

Basically - be sensible and you won't get ill. But those people with the motion sickness thing - so sorry. Avoid games with bobbing, or play in short amounts.
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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 19:51
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The original Sonic Adventure caused motion sickness, but it was fixed in DX. How? I don't know. Maybe it had something to do with the upgrade in FPS.


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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 19:56
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Maybe futures ulta-fast games should ship with headache pills.
Or is it just better to keep them at human level?

Only thing I get a headache is looking at the monitor test programs more than 5 min. I had to check 10 monitors in my working practice running every test and that wasnt nice

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Call of Duty 2 Big Red One(PS2) makes me sick within a minute or two when you go into bunkers cause of the shaking makes it hard to focus on anything. no other game has ever made me sick except for zelda on gameboy while driving around a mountain

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Quote: "Can games make you ill?"


The media can say they can.


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It's true, 78% of school shootings happen because of video games, as opposed to the .000000000001% which are due to bad parenting and oppression.

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Posted: 1st May 2006 00:42 Edited at: 1st May 2006 00:42
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Indeed. God forbid may someday a school shooting occur because the blame lies within the kid and not video-games or parenting.


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Stupid kids

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@Xander
I know the feeling i was attacked by a goat one time for no reason

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It's because the goat has played too many Jeff Minter games like attack of the mutant camels.

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Open up the instruction book to any game in your collection, and read the disclaimer. It should say something about Epillepsy. It's been proven that the screen's refreshing at a constant, but sporatic, rate, can aggrivate epilleptic side effects in people who suffer from the disease, even if mild. For some people it's a mild headache, for others it's passing out with foam at the mouth, for others, it's the head fully imploding and causing a tear in the space-time continuum (okay, I made the last one up). But tell your friend to read the Epillepsy warning in the manual


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Ian Curtis was eppileptic. and look where ended up!

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Games only make me sick when I already am sick and most movement makes me sick... Some games are like watching hundreds of strobe lights at once due to flash textures or flashy disorienting scenery, and those games generally give me headaches.

and to finish;

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dark coder
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@matt i dont have any form of epplilepsy and i very often play games for hours on end, and i used to play games for very stupid lengs of time during the day, however hl2 is the only game that when playing for around a hour or 2 i start to feel sick, i suppose it must be due to the movements as it usually happens when im in the boat thing but i still managed to complete the game .

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Quote: "attack of the mutant camels"


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Matt Rock
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A game that gives you motion sickness... HOT! I dunno, I was just pointing out the epillepsy thing because no one else had yet


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There is a scene showing a blinking screen/light inducing an epileptic seizure in the movie "The Andromeda Strain", as I recall. I have been noticing the disclaimer that Matt Rock pointed out in every game package I've bought recently.
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Doom always made me physically ill and nausious (sp?) with the up/down movement of the screen. It is probably why I dislike FPS games now.

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My brother loves HL2 except he thinks the FOV is bad, and he said he gets nauseous from it. I don't notice anything like that in HL2, but I was watching someone play Doom3 and I was getting dizzy and stuff. I think thats more because I hate the lighting and stuff in it... too harsh. Thats the first and only time a game or video or anything on a screen made me feel woozy.

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I have to agree with SirFire and say DOOM. The original Doom made me literally vomit. And I was out of commsion for about a day and a half. There was no way to turn of the BOBBing up and down, add to that blurry textures, and slow FPS (most likely my crappy hardware at the time) that made it unbearable at times. I still played it, but I had to take breaks every 20 minutes.

DOOM for Nintendo 64 also made me a little sick. Mainly from the blurry textures.

The only time recently I have been sick from a video game, is when I'm watching a screen of four people playing HALO and I'm not playing.
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Pincho Paxton
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This game can make you ill.



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cba to read the thread, but theoretically it could, for example if you made it really small or large it would make you dizzy, and that has consequences.. However, it really shouldn't at default fov.

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dark coder
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well yesterday i played hl2 again from the beggining and i started feeling a bit sick after an hour :/, but i guess it may just be the camera movement as i seemed to be looking around a bit. strange tho any other game is fine including cs : s

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No game has ever caused me to feel nautious or ill in any way


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Then you must not have played Pac-Man for the Atari 2600. It made me ill because it sucked so bad. And the ghosts could give anyone a seizure. What was that blue/orange muck of a screen. Some people tink E.T. was bad, but this game was worse and more of a dissapointment.

On the seriouse side, I take it that some people are more prone to nausea from games than others. Just like sea-sickness. And now thinking of it - as someone above posted - Sonic made me feel a bit queazy too.

I must be a weak gamer.
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games dont make me ill, I make ill games

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