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The Lone Programmer
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I set up my new computer and I am having real issues installing both heatsinks.

It took me a real long time to install the stock heatsink, but It runs at 60-65 degrees celsius. That is very hot and is making me nervous.

I have a different fan which is suppose to lower the tempurature about 20 degrees, but I am having a large amount of trouble installing it.

My motherboard is:
ASUS P5WD2-E Premium

My CPU is:
Intel Pentium D 930 3.0ghz

My new fan is:
Arctic Freezer 7 Professional

My socket type is a 775 and requires the heatsink fan to clip in with a form of pressurized clips. You are suppose to push all 4 into the motherboard until you hear a click. Well not all of them will go in. The most I can get in is 2 and that wont cut it.

If anyone knows what I am talking about, what suggestions do you have for clicking the fan into the motherboard. Pushing hard wont work, because I am at close risk to damaging the board. It bends a large amount when I try and click them in.

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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 22:48
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You heatsink is most likely backwards if you can't click all 4. If this is the case you could have damaged your MB and/or processor.

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All clips are exactly the same. In the instructions it said it did not matter the orientation of the heatsink. Only the new one I bought. That one had to go a certain way, but it still wont attach.

Is there any methods or screws I could use in substitution to the clickers?

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Posted: 29th Apr 2006 23:45
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I use the Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro in both of my PCs (one is socket 939, the other 775 like yours). It needs to be fitted in a specific orientation so the fan blows the hot air out of the back of your PC case via the grill.

Are any of the four sockets damaged? Either on the heatsink or on your motherboard? it would explain why the stock heatsink doesn't give you good readings, and the arctic can't sit properly.

You do need to use quite a bit of force to get the 775 versions in though. The 939 is much easier (side-clip lever).

To be honest I would suggest removing the motherboard from its case, removing the fan from the front of the arctic heatsink (it comes off quite easily, and makes seating the heatsink less hassle), then just place the mobo on a table so you can work with it easily, and inspect it, check over the heatsink sockets, then you can fit the arctic much easier. Just make a note of where the leads go and you'll be fine, it shouldn't take more than half an hour.

It's worth it in the end, my arctic keeps my cpu low and cool, and is extremely quiet. Other than perhaps a Zalmann I'd go arctic on any new PC I ever built (if the case allows!)

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Hey I took your advice Rich.

I took the board out of the case and worked on it. The installation couldn't have been easier.

I did do something which I don't know if it should of helped or not. I went out to purchase some Arctic Silver. I cleaned off both my CPU and my Arctic Freezer so that way no old silver remained. I squirted some of the new stuff onto my Arctic Freezer and made it a nice smooth thin layer. Then I attached it to my board.

My idle CPU temperature has dropped from 58C to 48C. When I run applications it goes up to 57C instead of 67C. It's not as low as it probably should be, but I don't think I can get any better than that. If you guys have any fan recommendations or Heatsink Fan recommendations let me know. I have a front case fan and back case fan.


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Glad it worked. That isn't a terrible cpu temp, especially for a 775 P4. If you had a newer cpu or an AMD then I'd expect it to be a bit lower, because you can enable Cool 'n Quiet mode and the like. Sounds like the thermal paste helped too, it'll conduct much better with a new coating (I really need to get some to paste up my old P4, it is several years old and could do with a new coat!)

For case fans I'd recommend the Vantec Stealth fans. They are superb and very quiet. However they come with standard thick metal screws, if you can get some rubber grommets instead it won't cause as much noise when fixed to the case.

The only other way to keep your case cool is to ensure air flows as freely as possible. What is your cable arrangement like? (perhaps post a pic here), you could probably help things by simply doing a bit of re-routing, or maybe get an Akasa AK-TK-01 Cable Tidy Kit and wrap together the danglers, tie up loose ends, etc. I used a CT kit in my new case to great effect, it kept the whole chamber free from loose wires and keeps it icy cool.

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thats actually a reg average for that processor under load with the stock hsf. but with that artic is should be much cooler.

my little xp 3000+ @ 2.6Ghz maxes out at 62 degress after about 3 hours but wont go any higher. but that is because i did a "vacuum mod" to the case. check it out here http://www.overclockers.com/tips1187/

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Yeah um,
If you saw my case you would probably have a heart attack. There are so many cables to my power supply and they happen to be long enough to wrap around half the case. You cannot even see into the case when you open it up. But the problem is, since my parts are spread so far apart, There is really no way for my to organize the cables.

I mean I have a lot of cables which don't match any of my parts, so I twisty tied them and stuck them into a CD-ROM Bay, but that doesn't even dent the amount of cables I have. Supposively I ended up buy the power supply that contained the most amount of cables. The reviews all say there were far too many cables and they were far to long.

Some of my hardware has a male and female power plug so I just pluged one PS plug into it and plugged the hardware plug into another hardware. Seemed to work out no problem. I mean my graphics card is hooked to a fan and both seem to be running.

Still I don't even know what to do with all the cables. Two of the cables look like very large bungie cables. They are thicker than my thumbs.


Any advice for hardcore clearing would be appreciated.

What would be a CPU temperature to stay away from. I know 70C is critical, but what temperature should I get cautious over? I mean I haven't tried any brutal applications like games yet, so for all I know the Temp will shoot way up past what I've seen. I don't know how it all work.


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Depends. Intels run hot period so im guessing above 65, i would get worried. But AMD, about 55-60 then i mite start to worry but not that badly.

As far as organizing ur cables (i spent a lot of time doing mine) you have to find this thing tubing that you put your wires in (fits about 10) and you have the molex's stick out wher you need them. i have all open space except for one 1" red toob down the middle inside my case. works very well.

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