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Lukas W
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Posted: 4th May 2006 15:47 Edited at: 4th May 2006 15:53
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Let me start this thread with: i always meant to make a backup of my files.

and with that said i think you get the picture of what have happened.

at work (hahaha tricked you, this has nothing to do with db),
i have a computer where i store all data, all documents, all computer information, all "they-who-we-buy-stuff-from" user accounts, passwords, phone numbers, etc. etc. and everyday i kept thinking, i'd better put these important things on the server where we have backups and stuff incase something happened. and so i did. that was 5 months ago!

so day after day more recently i kept thinking about taking another backup. but i didn't think anything would happen so i kept on dreaming about girls and the future. when suddenly:


(yep that is a recreation of the dramatic and horrific picture i will always have stored in my memory.)

so i though, "ahwell, guess i have to restart then" and i press ctrlaltdel. but when it's supposed to read from the disk (after the awesome dell flash) it keeps saying
[insert pic here]

and there is no way to read from the disk, the whole hardrive is broken. (yeye, go ahead and say "u broke it" but infact all i did was surfing the net).

so after hours of diskchecks, error searching (error 7 btw) and sweating, i realize this disk is broken for GOOD!

so i keep thinking about what i have stored on there:
what i said earler, plus my documentations (im a trainee, so i need to document what i do in order to remember stuff when the big test is coming next year, that i have to pass in order to "become" a computer administrator).

i have a 5 month's old backup, but omg so much data that i lost.
my boss said, well i told you to make a backup didn't i, and im like, i know, i know! and we've talked, and decided that i have to write down a list of filenames that i know is lost and then we _might_ send it to a hardrive expert, so he can have a look at it. but.. time is money .

so now i dont know what do to, all i can do as of now is blame myself for not taking teh backups when i thought of it

so thats me, and now im gonna go to that corner and cry.






later.


edit,
thats a dell btw. stupid company can't make proper harddrives! deth them! deth them i say!!

edit2,
i think i might have the source to my forum stored there! i hope i uploaded the latest version of the forum.

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Robin
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Posted: 4th May 2006 15:53 Edited at: 4th May 2006 15:54
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Ouch


Seriously I'm now thinking....I should do a backup of all my stuff. But I'm just thinking it - I know I'm never going to get around to it lol


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Posted: 4th May 2006 17:08
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oopss, sorry to hear that. Hope it gets resolved.

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dark coder
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Posted: 4th May 2006 17:12
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yea im also one of those people that allways says ill back it up next week , but seriously i will back my whole pc up in one week, as im moving house and this pc is starting to be very disorganised so imma back everything up and format .

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Pincho Paxton
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Posted: 4th May 2006 19:22
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Actually. If you make the Hard Drive a slave, you might be able to still read from it.

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Lukas W
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Posted: 4th May 2006 19:46
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i tried that. windows figured there was something wrong with the disk, and decided not to display it at all.

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Mikey P
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Posted: 4th May 2006 20:29
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Maybe a pretty naff piece of advice, but have you tried reading it from linux? Maybe a linux livecd? Worth a shot, if your data is that important.

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NeX the Fairly Fast Ferret
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Posted: 4th May 2006 20:31
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It probably refuse itself access if it is a live cd - mine does.


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Lukas W
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Posted: 4th May 2006 20:38
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we dont have linux, but it's free yea? some versions of it.. like ubuntu or somehthing?

i'll ask my boss and hear what he have to say.

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Posted: 4th May 2006 20:40
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I've got a Linspire demo.


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Posted: 4th May 2006 21:06
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Quote: "big test is coming next year, that i have to pass in order to "become" a computer administrator"


You failed!

Seriously, you're becoming a comp admin and you don't have any kind of back-up policy in place? Wow.. glad I don't work where you do

I know your pain though. I don't know anyone who hasn't lost something due to a crash of some kind (of the hardware or 'human error' variety). I'm terrible at backing stuff up really, I have hundreds of CDs and DVDs with dates and cryptic (after the event) filenames on.

Which is why I just built myself a file server. 500GB of RAIDed lovelyness, with a nightly off-site backup to a remote server via Handy Backup Pro. The server only cost £300 to build, the off-site backup is just using up the gigs of space my web host provides! But Handy Backup Pro will zip all your data into one file, then blowfish encrypt and password protect it, and FTP it up automatically. So now I just dump all my files on my server and I know that even if the hard drive fails, the mirror will run and even if the house burns down, my offsite remains. Best investment I've made for years I reckon!!!

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Posted: 4th May 2006 21:20 Edited at: 4th May 2006 21:22
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lolar well i can tell you that we do use backup, i think we have 3 servers that takes backups. 1 server that stores each of the user accounts on the school (yea i work at a school) (and thats where my data should be stored), 1 server that stores the "intranett" or whatever it's called (that's the norwegian word for it) it's like internet, but wihtout internet connection.. guess it's more like an asp/sql server thingie. and the 3rd one is for our (teh admins) own backup of programs, secrets, stuff that we've programmed etc. etc..

so we have rich backups, and even those three servers are getting backups themselves by higher rank servers in town that we're not allowed to touch.

the only way to retrieve the data is to do stuff over again, get someone to look at the disk or that linux thing (if it even works).

so yea, im going to become a computer administrator, but when i finish i will start in school again and study game programming in java and c++. in order to enter that school you must do 1 of two options: what i do (get education in something with computers) or learn advanced math. i guess both of them is quite handy to know, but im taking risks and hoping for the best.

if i fail in becoming what i want (games programmer) i still can get a job as a computer administrator or i can try to go global with my band.

so either way, i still have a slight chanse to get through life in a good way

but it's all up to that test next year, dont know what happens if i fail.

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Posted: 4th May 2006 21:23
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Quote: "You failed!"


... and then some. In a business environment, your backup strategy is the most important part of your system administration. It's the one part of your process you have to get absolutely right.

Quote: "we've talked, and decided that i have to write down a list of filenames that i know is lost and then we _might_ send it to a hardrive expert"


Isn't is easier to just get them to recover everything? Usually they just transfer the disk platters to a working drive, and do a standard copy of all readable data to a new working drive and then leave you to it. Recovering specific files is more difficult, and may cost you more.

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Veritas Backup Exec. It's worth the money. I never deal with manual backups, or tape drives again. Everything important is sheduled and I run full backups 3 days a week and partial backups (new or changed files only) the other 4 days.

Also, Isn't it relatively exspenvie to have hard drives recovered either way? Last I checked it was a few grand. I almost went through this scenario 3 years ago. Luckily it was the controller card and not the actual hard disk that failed. I was able to remount the drive on a new controller board and voila. Lucky. That's when I became a believer in backup software.
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Posted: 4th May 2006 22:34
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I backup my game every single night...I know I won't regret it when something does happen. Plus, if I screw up a file I can just get it from the backup and start over.

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Lukas W
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Posted: 4th May 2006 22:56 Edited at: 4th May 2006 22:57
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im considering making a backup of all my files on the hardrive here at home. 2 times allready have windows stopped booting and i had to re-install windows.

luckily i thought of this when i first baught this computer,
so i use 5 hardrives:
windows disk, games disk, movies/music disk, development disk, downloads disk (tgc stuff (dbpro addons/patches etc.), game demos, textures, 3d models etc. etc.)

so when the windows disk fails i can easily format and re-install whitout loosing any data except the windows registry, so i would still have to re-install everything..

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Quote: "lost a 3 hour essay"


Why don't you save your work? Honestly, I don't understand how some people can type for hours without hitting save. Just lazy.

It's a habit of mine to constantly hit CTRL-S when I'm using most any software.


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Quote: "It's a habit of mine to constantly hit CTRL-S when I'm using most any software."


Same here, but it only became a habit because of the default DBP IDE. I t can be a pain sometimes, when it takes a while to save a file, in larger IDEs... *shrugs* Better safe than sorry!

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Dell made the hd? I seriously doubt it. Its prolly a POS Seagate FailMaster 3000

Sorry this happened to you but hopefully youve learned a lesson...BACK UP FREQUENTLY!

If you're slick you can get the disk to boot again or in the least get the info off of it.

good luck tho

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Can't be a complete waste if it'll encourage you to backup more frequently in the future. At the moment I only really back up all the digital pics on my comp, because they're the whole families and I know I'd get a throttling if anything happened to them. My only excuse for not backing up more is complete laziness, it just takes too long pratting about trying to cram just enough onto a cd-rw without going over that oh-so-small 700mb. When I get the funds together for an external hd or dvd writer I'll hopefully get a bit more serious about the whole thing.

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Thats why all of my stuff is open source and posted online. All I have to do is download it if something goes wrong When I get to a "I don't want to restart from before here" point I make it an upgrade and post it. Of course I also backup every once in a while as well.

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Quote: "thats a dell btw. stupid company can't make proper harddrives"

I didn't know Dell made harddrives. It's probably a maxtor.

Quote: " Its prolly a POS Seagate FailMaster 3000"

seagate is best, what are you talking about? Its the only drive that hasn't failed me yet in 10 years.

so....you an official "admin" yet? You could always rip open that harddrive, they have neat refridgerator magnets inside.


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ok idk if this was said earlier bc i skipped some posts but do this...

put ur hd in a plastic bag (maybe two or three to keep out moisture) then stick it in the refridgerator for no more then 2 hours maybe 2.5 and then put it in ur comp.

that should work for a little while.. maybe nuff for a backup.

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Quote: "seagate is best, what are you talking about? Its the only drive that hasn't failed me yet in 10 years."

the operative bit there being "me" (you). Without getting into a debate about hdd manfs, I have had drives of every brand fail on me at one time or another, and I used to be a huge Seagate fan but now-a-days I swear by Western Digital personally. Preference order:

Western Digital
Seagate
Maxtor

but we each have our own reasons, and likes, and dislikes. The reason I said seagate up there is because earlier that day I had to set up a dell machine at my office and it had a seagate drive. I should have said: "pos Maxtor CrapSpinner 5200"

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Hey Lukas, I have a doc called 100 ways to revive a hard drive. I can send you if you want me to.

(mail me)

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